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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | 1 Nov 2005 05:59
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Re: SWIG mailing lists moving

Olly Betts <olly <at> survex.com> writes:

> Existing subscribers WON'T be automatically transferred from the sound
> of it, so gmane needs to be resubscribed.

Ok; done.

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Frank Ellermann | 2 Nov 2005 03:04
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Reply-To list => Followup-To list

Hi, some lists do weird stuff with the redistributed mail
like adding footers or subject tags, and generally GMaNe
manages to hide these oddities.

But it does not yet invalidate a bogus Reply-To: List set
by the list.  Can GMaNe replace it by X-Reply-To, please ?

Simple UAs offer Re:news (=> to list on this side of GMaNe)
and Re:mail (=> private mail to From), maybe also Re:both
(= "posted+mailed", here emulating a courtesy copy).

But a given Reply-To of course trumps the From in replies,
as it should, Reply-To is user territory always set by the
author or (original) sender.  If a list forges a Reply-To
to itself "Re:mail" does not more work as expected.

GMaNe could fix this oddity.  If a Reply-To matches any
known list address(es) replace it by X-Reply-To, or if
possible by Followup-To.
                        Bye, Frank

P.S.:  the details of "if possible by Followup-To" could
       be the fun stuff from a gateway operator's POV ;-)
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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | 2 Nov 2005 03:15
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Re: Reply-To list => Followup-To list

Frank Ellermann <nobody <at> xyzzy.claranet.de> writes:

> But it does not yet invalidate a bogus Reply-To: List set
> by the list.  Can GMaNe replace it by X-Reply-To, please ?

No.  Whether to have a Reply-To pointing to the list is up to the list
admin.

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Frank Ellermann | 2 Nov 2005 06:52
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Re: Reply-To list => Followup-To list

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> Whether to have a Reply-To pointing to the list is up to the
> list admin.

Maybe, and while I disagree it's something I'd discuss with the
list admin.  But it's certainly a kludge used for mail, and on
this side of GMaNe we have news, where this kludge is useless,
at worst harmful.  It could make sense for an "unidirectional"
group, and then it could be you who inserts it, but behind the
normal "bidirectional" gateway I don't see a technical purpose
of a "Reply-To: list" in news.
                               Bye, Frank
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Björn Lindström | 2 Nov 2005 13:09
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Re: Reply-To list => Followup-To list

Frank Ellermann <nobody <at> xyzzy.claranet.de> writes:

> Maybe, and while I disagree it's something I'd discuss with the list
> admin. But it's certainly a kludge used for mail, and on this side of
> GMaNe we have news, where this kludge is useless, at worst harmful.
> It could make sense for an "unidirectional" group, and then it could
> be you who inserts it, but behind the normal "bidirectional" gateway I
> don't see a technical purpose of a "Reply-To: list" in news.

For what it's worth, I agree completely.
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Matej Cepl | 2 Nov 2005 19:32
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gmane.comp.tv.xmltv.general has no articles via NNTP

gmane.comp.tv.xmltv.general has no articles via NNTP although there are
plenty of them in weblog.

Matej
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Olly Betts | 2 Nov 2005 22:10
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Re: gmane.comp.tv.xmltv.general has no articles via NNTP

On 2005-11-02, Matej Cepl <ceplm <at> seznam.cz> wrote:
> gmane.comp.tv.xmltv.general has no articles via NNTP although there are
> plenty of them in weblog.

I see 1600+ via NNTP (I'm using slrn)...

Cheers,
    Olly
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Matej Cepl | 2 Nov 2005 22:40
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Re: gmane.comp.tv.xmltv.general has no articles via NNTP

Olly Betts wrote:
> I see 1600+ via NNTP (I'm using slrn)...

I should really take a look at logs whenever I am tempted to ask somewhere
for help :-( Too small expire time in leafnode configuration file. Sorry.

Matej

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Alan Post | 4 Nov 2005 06:40

Re: Towards better statistics

In article <m3d5ppz1tt.fsf <at> quimbies.gnus.org>, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> Alan Post <apost <at> recalcitrant.org> writes:
> 
>> If you post the current script and an example input/output pair, it
>> might happen.  :)
> 
> Fantastic idea.  :-)
> 
> The script is below, and the output I want is on the form
> 
> 20050623 379 2213830 135 177 0
> 20050624 258 1249966 96 131 2
> 20050625 126 702965 54 69 2
> 20050626 171 1069486 73 80 3
> 20050627 443 2823793 207 164 3
> 
> That's date, number of messages, bytes, number of unique subjects,
> number of unique addresses, and spam messages. 
[snip]

Blast from the past, I know.  Are you still looking to speed up the
stats gathering?

If so, could you publicly post a chunk of DAT that I could run the
program over?  I could randomly generate something, but it wouldn't
necessarily match reality very well.

  Alan
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Frank Ellermann | 5 Nov 2005 03:10
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update result page

Hi, *_after_* updating the info for a list I arrived at
http://gmane.org/info.php?group=gmane.ietf.tools&edit=t

(Won't work now, pre-edit URL is the same as post-edit)

The post-edit page is apparently "under construction",
its left column with the links says:

  18968977evhdb
  eghgerfgeg8grhgg
  ehgjjhje0beg
[...]

The links are fine.  And it's not ROT-13 ;-)  Bye, Frank
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