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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | 1 Jan 2005 02:39
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Filters

I've got a cold, and was getting tired of reading, so I wrote a
filter for RSS feeds.

<URL: http://gmane.org/filtering.php>

Anybody can define a filter whenever they want.  Articles that match
the filter will be output to an RSS feed.  You can't edit a filter,
and everybody may use the filter.

Here's a filter for the word "linux" in the body of a message.  Very
useful.  :-)

<URL: http://filter.gmane.org/filter.11>

More relevant would be to search for "php" and "exploit" in security
announcement groups.  Etc.

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Francis Litterio | 1 Jan 2005 16:36
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Do any of Gmane's groups contain Usenet traffic?

I'm new to Gmane (kudos to the maintainers and admins, BTW).  I'm
wonderifng if any Gmane groups contain traffic from traditional Usenet
groups?

Or is Gmane content solely from mailing lists?
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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | 1 Jan 2005 18:09
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Re: Do any of Gmane's groups contain Usenet traffic?

Francis Litterio <franl <at> world.std.com> writes:

> I'm new to Gmane (kudos to the maintainers and admins, BTW).  I'm
> wonderifng if any Gmane groups contain traffic from traditional Usenet
> groups?

No.

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Matej Cepl | 1 Jan 2005 17:48

Re: Do any of Gmane's groups contain Usenet traffic?

Francis Litterio wrote:
> I'm new to Gmane (kudos to the maintainers and admins, BTW).  I'm
> wonderifng if any Gmane groups contain traffic from traditional Usenet
> groups?
> 
> Or is Gmane content solely from mailing lists?

AFAIK latter.

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Niels L. Ellegaard | 1 Jan 2005 18:33
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Re: Do any of Gmane's groups contain Usenet traffic?

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Francis Litterio <franl <at> world.std.com> writes:
>
>> I'm new to Gmane (kudos to the maintainers and admins, BTW).  I'm
>> wonderifng if any Gmane groups contain traffic from traditional Usenet
>> groups?
>
> No.

I am not an expert on all this, but I think that a few mailing lists
are mirrored by gmane as well as the traditional usenet hierarchy. At
least my usenet provider has linux.kernel and debian.user:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/linux.kernel
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/linux.debian.user
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user

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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | 1 Jan 2005 19:17
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Re: Filters

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> I've got a cold, and was getting tired of reading, so I wrote a
> filter for RSS feeds.

*cough*

I've written a page where you can browse the filters, and create new
filters based on old ones:

<URL: http://gmane.org/browse-filters.php>

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Romain Francoise | 1 Jan 2005 19:54
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Re: Filters

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> *cough*

The antidote for cough, milk.

Warm.  With honey.

> <URL: http://gmane.org/browse-filters.php>

Neat.  How about extending the notion to virtual newsgroups where all
articles matching a filter are crossposted?

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Matej Cepl | 1 Jan 2005 19:53

Re: Do any of Gmane's groups contain Usenet traffic?

Niels L. Ellegaard wrote:
> I am not an expert on all this, but I think that a few mailing lists
> are mirrored by gmane as well as the traditional usenet hierarchy. At
> least my usenet provider has linux.kernel and debian.user:

IMHO, linux.* hierarchy is read-only.

Matej

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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | 1 Jan 2005 20:00
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Re: Filters

Romain Francoise <romain <at> orebokech.com> writes:

> The antidote for cough, milk.
>
> Warm.  With honey.

:-)  Am drinking tea and cocoa.   Not at the same time, though.

>> <URL: http://gmane.org/browse-filters.php>
>
> Neat.  How about extending the notion to virtual newsgroups where all
> articles matching a filter are crossposted?

Doing it on a virtual newsgroups basis was actually my original idea,
but it's hard.  So I just did RSS feeds, which is easy.  :-)

In some ways I think RSS (that is, using a proper web browser) is a
better fit for this sort of thing than using a news reader.
(Shocking, I know.)  The thing is that if you see one message about
something, you want to read the entire thread, often.  This is pretty
much impossible to do from a newsreader.  You get all the parents of
the message easily enough, but getting the thread is very difficult.

It's trivial from a web browser, though, since weaverd gives you the
thread.  Click, click, you go from the RSS feed to the context.

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Romain Francoise | 1 Jan 2005 21:32
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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> In some ways I think RSS (that is, using a proper web browser) is a
> better fit for this sort of thing than using a news reader.
> (Shocking, I know.)

Yeah, if it weren't so bad taste right now, I'd say this is an
earth-shattering statement.

Anyway, what browser do you use?  I have yet to find a usable RSS
reader.  I tried the various GNOME alternatives (they're all quite
horrible), Mozilla Thunderbird (not really inspiring either) and nnrss
is, erm, spooky.

> The thing is that if you see one message about something, you want to
> read the entire thread, often.  This is pretty much impossible to do
> from a newsreader.  You get all the parents of the message easily
> enough, but getting the thread is very difficult.

True.

Then maybe use weaverd to generate virtual groups that contain only one
thread?  Then link to the group from the article.

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