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Olly Betts | 1 Nov 2004 03:03
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gmane.mail.spam.dspam.user is non-public

My post vanished until I subscribed to the list and reposted, at which
point it went through in under a minute.

Could Lars (or someone) mark the group as non-public?

The list runs on Majordomo 1.94.5, which doesn't seem to understand the
"set" command which I think Majordomo 2 does.

It'd be handy if post.php gave some hints for how to subscribe without
getting mail to the various list managers.  Or is this information
elsewhere on gmane?  I couldn't find it (either by random clicking or
with Google).

Cheers,
    Olly
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Charles Duffy | 1 Nov 2004 03:37
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gmane.network.openvpn.user disappearance from NNTP?

I've recently ceased to be able to access one of the lists I follow closely via
the NNTP interface:

Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:28:20 - Unable to set group "gmane.network.openvpn.user
": 411 No such group gmane.network.openvpn.user

I note that this group is still available via the HTTP interface. Any comments
as to what might have happened?
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Felix Wiemann | 1 Nov 2004 12:03
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Re: gmane.network.openvpn.user disappearance from NNTP?

Charles Duffy wrote:

> I've recently ceased to be able to access one of the lists I follow
> closely via the NNTP interface:
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> Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:28:20 - Unable to set group "gmane.network.openvpn.user
> ": 411 No such group gmane.network.openvpn.user

Looks like you have been blocked.

Is your IP in <http://gmane.org/denied.php>?

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Charles Duffy | 1 Nov 2004 16:50
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Re: gmane.network.openvpn.user disappearance from NNTP?

Felix Wiemann <Felix.Wiemann <at> gmx.net> writes:

> 
> Charles Duffy wrote:
> 
> > I've recently ceased to be able to access one of the lists I
> > follow closely via the NNTP interface:
> >
> > Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:28:20 - Unable to set group
> > "gmane.network.openvpn.user ": 411 No such group
> > gmane.network.openvpn.user
> 
> Looks like you have been blocked.
> 
> Is your IP in <http://gmane.org/denied.php>?

Yup, I'm in *.customer.corenap.com. (A static IP, incidentally, so the
wildcard shouldn't have been necessary, if it was in fact my own usage
that triggered the block).

Odd, since I really _am_ using a newsreader, not any address
harvesting or like software. (Come to think of it, though, the issue
started when I told pan to download all headers on
gmane.linux.suse.general so I could locally search the message
subjects -- that certainly could be taken as antisocial enough
behaviour).
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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | 1 Nov 2004 22:12
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Re: gmane.mail.spam.dspam.user is non-public

Olly Betts <olly <at> survex.com> writes:

> Could Lars (or someone) mark the group as non-public?

Ok, done.

> It'd be handy if post.php gave some hints for how to subscribe
> without getting mail to the various list managers.

Well, exposing the list address on the web interface makes me a bit
worried.  If it's a non-public group, the auth mail will say how to
subscribe to the list, though.

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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | 1 Nov 2004 22:13
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Re: gmane.network.openvpn.user disappearance from NNTP?

Charles Duffy <cduffy <at> spamcop.net> writes:

> Yup, I'm in *.customer.corenap.com. 

I've now removed that entry.

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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | 1 Nov 2004 22:51
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Design competition

It's about time to get serious with the blog CSS, so I thought I'd
leave it up to all y'all.

Here's how to design Gmane:

1) First download the template CSS that has all the classes that are
   used: 

   <URL: http://gmane.org/download_css.php>

2) Put it on your own web server somewhere.

3) Paste the URL of your CSS into the box that says "Paste the URL of
   your CSS below"

4) Play around with the design until it's beautiful and stuff.
   You may add colors, background images, move stuff around, whatever.

5) Mail me the URLs of your design, and I'll add it to the list of
   CSS files in the "Design" box, and people can have a look at them.

6) The winner will...  er...  I don't know.  Will be happy?

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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | 1 Nov 2004 23:46
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Re: article.gmane.org down again

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> But if Google doesn't cut back on its hit rate in the coming days
> (200K hits per day now), I'm going to ban it from article.gmane.org.

And today they're back to 20K hits, so I guess they've fixed whatever
glitch they had in their spidering software.

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Olly Betts | 2 Nov 2004 02:09
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Re: gmane.mail.spam.dspam.user is non-public

On 2004-11-01, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> wrote:
> Olly Betts <olly <at> survex.com> writes:
>> It'd be handy if post.php gave some hints for how to subscribe
>> without getting mail to the various list managers.
>
> Well, exposing the list address on the web interface makes me a bit
> worried.  If it's a non-public group, the auth mail will say how to
> subscribe to the list, though.

I was thinking of generic instructions for each mailing list manager -
something like:

  Here's some hints for how to set your subscription to not receive
  messages for the list.  You need to know what list software is being
  used (see the "Type" field in the Gmane information page for the
  group).

  Mailman

  Go to the Mailman list information page for the list, click on
  the "Unsubscribe or edit options" button (near the bottom).
  Follow the log in instructions, then look for the "Mail delivery"
  option and set it to "Disabled".  Then click the "Submit My Changes"
  button.

  Majordomo 1.x

  Not possible.

  [etc]
(Continue reading)

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Luistxo Fernandez | 2 Nov 2004 09:02

Re: Design competition

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> 
> It's about time to get serious with the blog CSS, so I thought I'd
> leave it up to all y'all.
> 
> 

Oops... Just wanted to suggest one thing for the possible design...

comments.gmane.org looks nice IMHO, with the indentation as it's now. However,
just one point more:

in blog conventions (or so, if they are any), one expects that in a thread or
main message followed by its comments, the first title has a bigger type than
the comments following. In blog.gmane.org all subject lines are rendered
equal... But in comments.gmane.org perhaps the first thread initial subject
deserves another class, h2, css div or whatever to distinguish it.

Just a suggestion.

Luistxo
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