Olly Betts | 1 Mar 2004 14:53
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Re: "Your mail is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval"

Stefan D <stefan <at> damp.homeip.net> writes:
> 
> Björn Lindström wrote:
> 
> > Stefan D <stefan <at> damp.homeip.net> writes:
> >
> >>Yeah, I got that 2 secs after posting. That's why I removed my last
> >>message :)
> > 
> > It doesn't look like that from here.
> 
> Hmmm.. It's gone here, but not at http://new.gmane.org, weird. 

I very much doubt gmane honours cancelling of messages.  Gmane is an archive
of messages sent to mailing lists, and you can't cancel a message sent to a
mailing list so it doesn't make much sense to be able to cancel messages from
gmane's archive (they'd still be in other archives of the mailing list anyway).

I suspect your newsreader marked the message as cancelled in its internal
database and sent a cancel which gmane ignored.

Cheers,
  Olly
Olly Betts | 1 Mar 2004 15:46
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"Loom Bug"

If you try to reply to this post in Loom, you'll get a subject of just "Re:"
in the compose page. It seems the double quotes mess up producing the subject
for the new message.

Cheers,
    Olly
Arne Jørgensen | 2 Mar 2004 09:33
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Re: "Your mail is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval"

Olly Betts <olly <at> survex.com> writes:

> I very much doubt gmane honours cancelling of messages.  Gmane is an archive
> of messages sent to mailing lists, and you can't cancel a message sent to a
> mailing list so it doesn't make much sense to be able to cancel messages from
> gmane's archive (they'd still be in other archives of the mailing list anyway).
>
> I suspect your newsreader marked the message as cancelled in its internal
> database and sent a cancel which gmane ignored.

An idea for Reticule would be to accept cancel messages mean add an
"X-Archive: expiry=0"-header to an already postet article. Or
something similar.

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Daniel E. Macks | 2 Mar 2004 23:47

Available from NNTP but not HTTP?

The group gmane.os.apple.fink.i18n is accessible via NNTP, and gateway
works in both directions. But via the web the group is not listed from:
  http://news.gmane.org/search.php?match=fink
and trying to access it directy:
  http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.i18n
gives:
  Error GMANE-03252: Underdefined or possibly misdefined group and
  slash or articles, or possibly something else. Most likely you've
  just typed in the group name at random, and have arrived at a string
  that bears little relationship to an actual Gmane news group. Now,
  why did you do that? Tsk, tsk.

What's going on?

dan

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Wolfgang Schnerring | 2 Mar 2004 13:19
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Re: Newsletters (in German) from heise.de

* Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s <at> nurfuerspam.de>:
>>> Yes, but we require the people who want lists to ask the list admins
>>> first if we think that it's likely that the list admin might refuse
>>> the request.  The Heise newsletters is something that I think the
>>> list admins might want to refuse Gmane to carry.
>> So ... are we waiting for permission or have we got it already?
> [ Wolfgang an I will clarify the permission with Heise. ]

Unfortunately, we were denied permission to carry the newsletters by
Heise.

Wolfgang
Ed Avis | 3 Mar 2004 21:44
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HTML error in find.php

The page returned by <http://gmane.org/find.php> has an HTML error
near the bottom:

	<td align=right>
	  <small>
	    <!-- Created: 2002-02-18 03:25:00 -->
	    <!-- hhmts start -->
2002-04-10 20:59:43
<!-- hhmts end -->
	    </td>
	</tr>

There should be a closing </small> tag.

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era+gmane | 4 Mar 2004 09:38
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Multiple spam reports from same source

If the same IP address reports the same message as spam multiple
times, perhaps the duplicates could simply be ignored?

While it's technically possible that these will in fact be independent
reports from two different users behind, say, a NAT gateway, it is in
practice extremely unlikely, and even then, there is no real loss if
the duplicates are simply ditched.

These show up in the Gmane spam approval interface as if they were
completely unrelated. There's also something funny about how the
number of reports per IP address are calculated for these cases.

I know I sometimes report the same spam multiple times because I screw
up, or because I get an error for one of the messages when doing a
large batch, and then I'm not sure which one gave the error. (This is
a bug in my own reporting process but I'm sure others have similar
issues because there are lots of duplicates from other IP addresses,
too.)

/* era */

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Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker | 4 Mar 2004 10:10

Re: Multiple spam reports from same source

era+gmane <at> iki.fi writes:

> I know I sometimes report the same spam multiple times because I screw
> up, or because I get an error for one of the messages when doing a
> large batch, and then I'm not sure which one gave the error. (This is
> a bug in my own reporting process but I'm sure others have similar
> issues because there are lots of duplicates from other IP addresses,
> too.)

I have spam-report-gmane-current bound to C-c s and occasionaly report
the same article twice if I get distracted just after reporting it (as
in, I forget whether I pressed 'C-c s' or 'd' on it when seing it marked
as read and the cursor on the next article).

Another thing: how does the approval interface handle subsequent
spam/unspam reports on the same article (from both the same and
different IPs)? I occasionally misreport articles (the hand is faster
than the eye) and have to unreport them with my browser (which runs on
another machine than gnus).

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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | 4 Mar 2004 20:22
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I'm, like, back

The only major thing that went wrong while I was in Scotland was that
weaverd segfaulted.  Which is kinda major.  And it was actually due
to a design decision, not an actual bug bug.  (It ran out of string
storage space.)

Yes, stupid design, but there you are.

Anyway, this coupled with the other segfault that happened a few
weeks back (which was due to a bug bug -- I didn't ignore SIGPIPE)
means that I'll have to reindex the spool to get rid of the glitches
you can now see.  (Some groups don't exists, there are missing
articles, there are threads from one group appearing in a different
group, etc.  (These are mostly from the first segfault when I forgot
to flush the logs before shutting down...))

So I'll probably have to take weaverd down on Saturday.  We'll see --
I'll try to run the rethreading with another weaverd running at the
same time, but I think that'll be totally Swap City.  (Since each
instance takes 1.5GB, and I have 2GB in the machine...)

We'll see.

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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | 4 Mar 2004 20:25
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Re: Problem with lines consisting of a single dot

"Jason R. Mastaler" <jason <at> mastaler.com> writes:

> Lars should probably change the Gmane scripts that use
> /usr/sbin/sendmail to include the '-i' option:
>
>    -i   When  reading  a message from standard input, don't treat a line
>         with only a . character as the end of input.

Hey, cool.  Didn't know about that.  I've now added that option to
the news-to-mail bit.

But I wonder whether there's a bug in the mail-to-news bit as well.
Hm...  No, I'm using the Perl NNTP client, and it probably does all
the proper quoting.

But let's see if this works now.  Here's a line with a single dot:

.

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