Reg 2 Twin Peaks DVD- Which pilot?

Hi everyone,
I was wondering which version of the pilot is on the European (Reg 2) 
Box set; the broadcast one or the one with the stuck on finale which 
gave the whole story away which was released in Europe originally?
Best wishes,
Reggie.

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I just watched FWWM for the 2nd time.

The first time I watched FWWM, I didn't know what to think. I had 
only seen the first season and the first 7 episodes of the 2nd, up 
until Maddy's death. Later, I watched the whole series hoping that 
after I did, I would understand things like what the ring was, and 
who the hell Phillip Jefferies and Annie were. Well, I found out who 
Annie was of course, but I still didn't understand the ring nor the 
David Bowie scene. I read all of Cooper's autobiography, no mention 
of a Phillip Jefferies. I finnaly sat down and watched the DVD a 
second time last night, paying verrrry close attention to the scene 
with Phillip. This time I noticed some of the dialouge: "I'm not 
going to talk about Judy so don't ask.". I had never heard of a 
"Judy" in the series or in either Coop or Laura's books. This would 
be puzzling enough, but toward the very end of the movie, after 
Laura's death, there is a short shot of a monkey in a blue light. Now 
at first I thought I was imagining it, but the monkey seems to 
whisper: "Judy". I paused, rewound, and there it was agian, "Judy". 
Now here's the thing, I actually lost sleep last night from watching 
this movie! I came up with all kinds of crude therories, like maybe 
Judy is someone Coop possesed by BOB kills later, thus the line, "Do 
you know who that is?" as Phillip thinks Cooper is really BOB. I 
still didn't understand who Jefferies was either. Another therory I 
thought up was that maybe Phillip was this Judy's husband up until 
1987 where he somehow became "unstuck" in time from the power of the 
ring/lodges. What do you people think "Judy" is? On the other hand, I 
reilize that it's impossible to watch a Lynch film, which FWWM is, 
not a Peaks film really, it's impossible to watch one and try to 
dicern completly literal answers out of everything, just watch 
Mullholand Drive. You try to do that and you'll drive yourself insane.

P.S. At about 4 AM in the morning, I convinced myself that the whole 

Re: I just watched FWWM for the 2nd time.

Re: I just watched FWWM for the 2nd time.

 > What do you people think "Judy" is? On the other hand, I
> reilize that it's impossible to watch a Lynch film, which FWWM is,
> not a Peaks film really, it's impossible to watch one and try to
> dicern completly literal answers out of everything,
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Oh, how true. I myself find that the best part of being a fan/viewer is that
my interpretation is but one of many and, as such, is neither necessarily
right or wrong.

For the record, I have developed my own take on "Judy" in an essay I have
written entitled "Electricity."

The "Judy" chapter is as follows: (apologies if the text is buggered in
transmission)

all the best,
Liam

JUDY

 When the monkey says this name, we immediately connect it with the
appearance of Philip Jeffries in the Philadelphia offices. Jeffries's
appearance is accompanied by the same electrical sound associated with the
other spirits. It is likely that he has been in contact with them, and
recently, as the lingering electricity implies. When Jeffries speaks with
Cooper, Rosenfield and Cole, he distinctly says "I'm not going to talk about
Judy. In fact, we're not going to talk about Judy at all." His reluctance to
deal with this supposed woman perhaps indicates a fear he doesn't want to
relive. But his subsequent disappearance likely returns him to the place he
has come from - likely a place like the red room or indeed, the red room
itself. Gordon Cole claims that Jeffries has been gone two years and
Jeffries responds that he "followed." Could this have been an assignment he
was on where he was to follow the spirits, or signs, to the other-worldly
place? The best insight into this concept is information gleaned from the
movie scripts which were not actually filmed. Jeffries was to be in Buenos
Aires, walking onto an elevator. He was to leave the same elevator in the
Philadelphia FBI offices as we witness in the movie. This 'portal'
connecting Argentina to Pennsylvania indicates the possibility that there
are other entrances to the other-worldly place other than Glastonbury Grove.
Jeffries also states that he met with the spirits in their convenience
store. This store is established by Philip Gerard as the place where the
spirits lived and met on Earth, but its location is unknown. Is there just
the one convenience store? Are there several around the world, including
Buenos Aires? Or is the convenience store another spiritual realm much like
the red room itself? The best clue as to what it all might mean is Jeffries
insistence that we all "live inside a dream." His experiences with the
portals, the convenience store and anything else that took place during his
two year absence is likely behind this claim. But where does Judy fit into
all of this? We don't know if Judy is a fellow FBI agent working with
Jeffries. We also don't know why he brings her up without being prompted.
Could his fear of Judy be enough to get that concern off his chest right
from the start? The Man From Another Place says "with this ring, I thee wed"
among the experiences related by Jeffries in Philadelphia. Could the Man
have been implying that Jeffries was to marry 'Judy' (which would make Judy
the Man From Another Place...) - that his taking of the ring would be his
death just as it was for Laura? When Jeffries disappears again after such a
brief appearance, it seems that he is unable to return to his former life.
Perhaps he is trapped in the red room like Cooper eventually becomes. What
is clear is that he is a victim of the whole thing. He stumbled upon the
spirits on Earth and went to one of their meetings. He is now too deeply
involved to be allowed back and Mrs. Tremond's grandson confirms this by
pointing at the camera during Jeffries's testimonial and saying "fell a
victim." The fact that it is the monkey from the convenience store that
states "Judy" reveals that there is a connection between the spirits and
this unknown woman. Is she even a woman at all? Or is 'Judy' a code name
just as Gordon Cole gives codes and hidden meanings to important details?
The open-ended nature of this comment at the very end of the movie, in
particular, after the scene with the garmonbozia, leaves the viewer with the
impression that Judy is probably the single most important factor in
everything that goes on in the world of Twin Peaks. The monkey states it
bluntly and succinctly. Judy. Nothing more, nothing less. Jeffries does not
want to discuss it, yet he believes the whole situation to be a dream. Is
Judy the dream? Is Judy the relationship between the spirits of the
other-worldly place and the humans of our world? Is Judy the electricity
that surges between the worlds and makes the connection felt by those able
to sense it?

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I don't have much to go on here, but I just remembered
something: Why did Gerad/Mike cut off his arm in the
first place? He said it was beacuse he saw the face of
"God", and was purified. Although Mike still seems
evil in FWWM, I belive that is beacuse he still has a
strong connection with the "arm", the man from another
place. This is evidenced both by the MFAP's indian
whooping chant being heard in the scene where Mike
"attacks" Laura and Leeland, and more literally in the
scene in the red room where the MFAP touches Mike's
left shoulder and they demand their garmonbozia from
BOB in unison. In that scene it appears that the MFAP
is somehow controlling Mike by re-attaching himself to
his mind/body. What I was thinking is that prehaps
"Judy" is God, or at least a being of love from the
white lodge, a sort of antithesis of BOB, the devil of
fear from the black lodge. Mike saw the face of Judy,
and was purified, then cut off his arm which became
the MFAP. Phillip met Judy and well... SOMETHING
happened to him. Maybe he is being punished by her for something?

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