Re: Local Government and Coworking

Re: Brainstorming: how to sell the coworking idea to a business center? Our experience - Ideia Atlantico

Hi.

Our experiences with the business centers was not really good because
they watch us like an enemy and, in our case, they tried to deal with
us a relationship of "collaboration", but the real reason was our
destruction...

I think coworking need still being coworking and business center need
still being business center.

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Re: Local Government and Coworking

Try taking a look at our coworking space : http://www.moseleyexchange.com

It was started with assistance from Birmingham City Council, Advantage
West Midlands and with assistance from ERDF funding. Since opening in
mid 2009 we have recruited more than 50+ members with some already
moving thro and setting up larger offices.

Happy to have a dialogue with anyone else seeking assistance in
setting up this way...

James Rock

On Nov 30, 3:11 pm, BrianR <anon... <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Which coworking spaces have worked successfully with local government
> to get a space going? I have worked with my town. Just wondering who
> else has done the same. ex. received loans, grants, free rent, etc.
>
> I'm talking to my County government about more assistance and need
> other examples to share with them. Hopefully we can make a list of
> relationship precedence to benefit all.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Brian
>
> Carrboro Creative Coworkingwww.carrborocoworking.com

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Re: Re: Brainstorming: how to sell the coworking idea to a business center? Our experience - Ideia Atlantico

Re: Local Government and Coworking

Would folks who have received some sort of assistance from local
government provide the following to the group?
1) Name of Your Space
2) Name of Municipality you worked with
3) Type of Assistance: ex. Loan Money, free rent, etc.

My interest is only to provide examples to my County of other
municipalities that have assisted Coworking spaces. Here's my info.

Name of Space: Carrboro Creative Coworking
Name of Municipality: Town of Carrboro, North Carolina
Type of Assistance: Loan

Thanks,
-Brian

On Dec 1, 3:55 am, "james.r... <at> cultivar.co.uk"
<james.r... <at> cultivar.co.uk> wrote:
> Try taking a look at our coworking space :http://www.moseleyexchange.com
>
> It was started with assistance from Birmingham City Council, Advantage
> West Midlands and with assistance from ERDF funding. Since opening in
> mid 2009 we have recruited more than 50+ members with some already
> moving thro and setting up larger offices.
>
> Happy to have a dialogue with anyone else seeking assistance in
> setting up this way...
>
> James Rock
>
> On Nov 30, 3:11 pm, BrianR <anon... <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Which coworking spaces have worked successfully with local government
> > to get a space going? I have worked with my town. Just wondering who
> > else has done the same. ex. received loans, grants, free rent, etc.
>
> > I'm talking to my County government about more assistance and need
> > other examples to share with them. Hopefully we can make a list of
> > relationship precedence to benefit all.
>
> > Thanks!
>
> > -Brian
>
> > Carrboro Creative Coworkingwww.carrborocoworking.com

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Re: Re: Brainstorming: how to sell the coworking idea to a business center? Our experience - Ideia Atlantico

Re: Brainstorming: how to sell the coworking idea to a business center? Our experience - Ideia Atlantico

 <at> Hamc

Great a successful story! I have a lot of questions to ask 

Unless it is confidential it is possible to have some figures that
show the positive impact of the coworking place for the business
center?

How many people started in the coworking space and then moved in a
bigger space?

How the big companies value the proximity of the entrepreneurs? Have
you stories to share?

How big is your coworking space in comparaison of your overall
available space?

You said "because some of the reasons you refer in your text" what are
they, could you be more specific?

How did the owners, the decision makers were convinced by such an
idea?

 <at> basterrak

Your experience is very valuable. What would you advise to avoid
"destruction"? Better to learn how to avoid a kick before to get
one 

 <at>  Jacob

Ah some optimism! Always a pleasure to read.

On 1 déc, 13:45, Jacob Sayles <ja... <at> officenomads.com> wrote:
> Not all business centers are bad and each relationship is different.  I'm
> sure there are some bad stories and there will only be more bad stories if
> this kind of attitude persists.  Basterrak, I'm not discounting your
> situation, just balancing it out with a little optimism.  The beauty of the
> diversity of a list like this is that everyone can take the stories from
> others, both good and bad, and be better prepared when faced with a
> situation.
>
> Jacob
>
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> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:54 AM, basterrak <imartinez.c... <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi.
>
> > Our experiences with the business centers was not really good because
> > they watch us like an enemy and, in our case, they tried to deal with
> > us a relationship of "collaboration", but the real reason was our
> > destruction...
>
> > I think coworking need still being coworking and business center need
> > still being business center.
>
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Re: Start Up Spread Sheet

This is all great information. What square footage is dedicated to
common area? This is important when considering the size of the space
and the desk space required in order to determine capacity and the
ability to sustain the business.

The common spaces I would consider to be the kitchen, a lounge area, a
small 4-6 boardroom. My rough guess would be around 700 sq. ft. for a
space that is looking to hold 40 to 50 members. Any thought?

On Nov 30, 7:15 am, rob obrien <robrien... <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks.  The spreadsheet has tons of info to consider.
>
> The home page also has a wealth of info on policies, floor plans.
> WOW.
>
> On Nov 29, 8:28 am, Eli Malinsky <e... <at> socialinnovation.ca> wrote:
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> > We have sample budgets and budget templates here:  www.socialinnovation.ca/sssi.
> > It's a very different model and different scale, but some of the
> > budget lines may help you think about unanticipated expenses and
> > revenue sources.
>
> > Eli Malinsky
> > Centre for Social Innovation
> > Toronto, Canada

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Re: Start Up Spread Sheet

Rob, your lease expenses are probably too low if you are looking to be
in the city. I would budget somewhere between $1400 and $1600 for a
space that will house 15+ members. However, I'm not familiar with the
area.

On Nov 30, 7:15 am, rob obrien <robrien... <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks.  The spreadsheet has tons of info to consider.
>
> The home page also has a wealth of info on policies, floor plans.
> WOW.
>
> On Nov 29, 8:28 am, Eli Malinsky <e... <at> socialinnovation.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > We have sample budgets and budget templates here:  www.socialinnovation.ca/sssi.
> > It's a very different model and different scale, but some of the
> > budget lines may help you think about unanticipated expenses and
> > revenue sources.
>
> > Eli Malinsky
> > Centre for Social Innovation
> > Toronto, Canada

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Re: Start Up Spread Sheet

I just found the 40:60 ratio in the CSI document with at least 30% for
common area.

On Dec 1, 8:07 pm, Craig - Longbranch Coworking <baut... <at> gmail.com>
wrote:
> This is all great information. What square footage is dedicated to
> common area? This is important when considering the size of the space
> and the desk space required in order to determine capacity and the
> ability to sustain the business.
>
> The common spaces I would consider to be the kitchen, a lounge area, a
> small 4-6 boardroom. My rough guess would be around 700 sq. ft. for a
> space that is looking to hold 40 to 50 members. Any thought?
>
> On Nov 30, 7:15 am, rob obrien <robrien... <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thanks.  The spreadsheet has tons of info to consider.
>
> > The home page also has a wealth of info on policies, floor plans.
> > WOW.
>
> > On Nov 29, 8:28 am, Eli Malinsky <e... <at> socialinnovation.ca> wrote:
>
> > > We have sample budgets and budget templates here:  www.socialinnovation.ca/sssi.
> > > It's a very different model and different scale, but some of the
> > > budget lines may help you think about unanticipated expenses and
> > > revenue sources.
>
> > > Eli Malinsky
> > > Centre for Social Innovation
> > > Toronto, Canada

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