Michael Shepherd | 1 Mar 01:59 2010

Re: Intorducing myself

When you say monumental, in what way does that differentiate you from a
banker mason ?

I have never worked granite, it seems that it is mostly reduced using
punches, points, and bushing hammers right ? It seems like an intriguing
material, but I like my limestone too much.

Do you by chance have any links or photos you could link of your work ?

All the best,

Mike Shepherd

edie heller | 1 Mar 03:30 2010

Re: Intorducing myself

hi terry & welcome,

our "in house" history expert (at least in the U.S.) is Peggy B.  
Perazzo - look for her posts in the archives - better yet, send a  
group email with her name as the subject - this way you might get her  
attention & then can communicate directly with her.  she is an  
incredible source of information.

good luck ... edie

On Feb 28, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Terry Tomlinson wrote:

> Hello everyone
> My name is Terry Tomlinson ...
> Although I have worked with granite for years using traditional  
> tools, I
> am keen to gather as much information as possible about the  
> traditional
> skills, processes, methods & tools used in those eras.
> I would appreciate any information the members could provide.
> Thanks
> Terry Tomlinson

Bill Ostrie | 1 Mar 06:04 2010

Re: stone yards that have no idea what you are talking about

I bought it in sheets like this:

I don't remember where I purchased. It could have been from the source  
linked above - it's been a couple of years.

I cut it and applied it to both my gloves and my tool handles for  
maximum grip.  It makes a real difference.  Dusty gloves on plastic  
handles are slippery, making you grip harder, leading to more fatigue,  
a greater danger of overuse injury, and more transfer of vibration to  
the hands.  The grippy stuff isn't a magic improvement, but it does  

Bill O.

On Feb 27, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Bill Marsh wrote:
>> I also use some
>> material from 3M that I think is called Greptile on my tool grips and
>> my gloves.

> From what I could find, this material is only being incorporated
> into golf gloves in the US.  You can buy the tape (3M Greptile G200
> adhesive-backed) in Australia, it seems.
> Bill

Peggy B Perazzo | 1 Mar 06:46 2010

Re: Tools & Quarrying & Working with Granite (historical)

Hi Terry:  Welcome to our group.  We just got 
home when I saw Edie's email referring your query 
to me to see if I could be of help.
I do have some information on our Stone Quarries 
and Beyond web site that might be of interest to you.

Below are some links to get you started.

Regarding tools, you could start in these three sections of our web site:

Quarries: Economics – Methods – Stone Types – 
Equipment  (There are also 2 other links under 
the menu to other sections that might be of help.)

Among the links in the above section, these very 
good articles by Paul Wood will be of interest to you:


Oxen and Granite,” (in Barre, Vermont), (online 
article) by Paul Wood, January 7, 2008, in the "Barre Montpelier Times Argus."

2.  “Tools and Machinery of the Granite Industry” 
(in four parts), by Paul Wood, in 
"<http://www.eaiainfo.org/>The Chronicle of the 
Early American Industries Association, Inc." 
(Issues of these magazines are available from the 
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Marg Gurr | 1 Mar 16:26 2010

for the inventors ?

I'm just throwing this out there for any of you tool enthusiasts, and would be delighted if someone tells me
"it's already been done" or "you can get a dremel bit for that"...someone needs to fabricate something for
stone like they use to remove big tree's for transplanting...like a big automated grapefruit knife or
router bit that can make a circular cut into a prescribed depth, then engage secondary retractable blades
that could gradually close the circle so that the stone could be lifted out in one piece.  I hate seeing so
much go to waste with all the hacking, chipping or turning.  Food for thought?

Ken Barnes | 1 Mar 18:32 2010

Re: for the inventors ?

Hi Marg, 
Of course it has been done, and it is amazingly simple, although describing it here may not be so readily
First, imagine a clamshell, its two halves completely open, such that it sits flat on a stone surface.  Now
modify your thought of this such that you have instead two strips of spring steel, each bent to form half a
circle, with a rod forming the clamsheel hinge and holding the ends of the two pieces of steel.  You
can think of this rod and steel strips as a clam shell, with them starting flat open on the stone surface,
and visualize them chomping down through the stone like a clamshell on something soft.  Of course you
can't just do that with stone, it takes diamonds and time.  You braze two diamond segments onto the
steel, one at 12 o'clock and the other at 6 o'clock, kind of like diamond buck teeth to the clamshell.  Then
you spin the whole thing around in a circle, so the diamond buck teeth trace a circle, lubricated by a water
drip. The spring steel is rigged such that as the buck teeth wear down into their circular path the clam shell
 closes.  Eventually the teeth meet and out pops the result.  In theory you could get results
approximating a half globe, although in reality it tends to be more flattened.
I have not made such a device, because I have not needed it, but I have seen one used.  
Ken Barnes


Carol Griffin | 2 Mar 20:13 2010

Re: stone yards that have no idea what you are talking about

Thanks for your comments, Daniel.  I use  4.5" angle grinder too, and always am very careful.  


Carol Griffin | 2 Mar 20:39 2010

Re: stone yards that have no idea what you are talking about

Great tips, Mark!


Carol Griffin | 2 Mar 20:58 2010

Re: Tools & Quarrying & Working with Granite (historical)

Interesting site, Peggy.  I look forward to reading some of the articles -- there's lots of information there.


Terry Tomlinson | 2 Mar 22:06 2010

Re: Intorducing myself

On 01/03/2010 00:59, Michael Shepherd wrote:
> Terry,
> When you say monumental, in what way does that differentiate you from a
> banker mason ?

Hi Mike

Firstly, thanks for your reply and regarding the difference between a 
banker & monumental mason
there a quite a few, as a monumental mason I perform many different 
tasks during my course of work
involving different tools (hand, pneumatic and electric),
equipment (Saws, polishing machines, sandblast units), materials (stone, 
marble and granite)
and locations (Workshop, cemeteries, public monuments).

The job is very varied and involves working at different locations, over 
the years I've got used to the variation
and I'm not sure if I could work as a banker mason stuck to one 
workplace, having said that
I do admire the skill and work carried out by banker masons
and I have a keen interest in the methods & tools that are used, 
especially the traditional methods.


Terry Tomlinson

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