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FOSTER,MICHAEL | 3 Sep 2009 06:43

Re: Cutting Limestone Blocks out of Bedrock

Charles,

         I was clearing some old e-mail out of my inbox 
and read this message .I was not sure  at first why I kept 
it. I am also extracting some coral stone from my 
backyard/small quarry. I tried to google stone pony. I do 
not know what it is in Italian. I had thoughts of using a 
wire saw but could not find out how perpendicular holes 
could be drilled and lined up to meet after several feet 
of drilling . Could you give me a direct link or some 
further information. I have taken out quite a bit of stone 
and cut tiles from them and did a bathroom .Deb V kindly 
put some of the pictures of the bathroom on her website 
for the members to see . Now that I have proven to myself 
that it is possible I have to find  ways to make it viable 
.

                    Michael.....................
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Deb Vandenbroucke | 3 Sep 2009 18:39
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Here's Michael's link again if you want to see him amongst the coral.
http://debwork.com/sculpture/stonelist/michael-foster.htm

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From: FOSTER,MICHAEL <michaelfoster@...>
Subject: [stone] Re: Cutting Limestone Blocks out of Bedrock
To: stone@...
Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 11:43 PM

Charles,

         I was clearing some old e-mail out of my inbox 
and read this message .I was not sure  at first why I kept 
it. I am also extracting some coral stone from my 
backyard/small quarry. I tried to google stone pony. I do 
not know what it is in Italian. I had thoughts of using a 
wire saw but could not find out how perpendicular holes 
could be drilled and lined up to meet after several feet 
of drilling . Could you give me a direct link or some 
further information. I have taken out quite a bit of stone 
and cut tiles from them and did a bathroom .Deb V kindly 
put some of the pictures of the bathroom on her website 
for the members to see . Now that I have proven to myself 
that it is possible I have to find  ways to make it viable 
.

                    Michael.....................

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Charles Kibby | 3 Sep 2009 21:05
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Re: Cutting Limestone Blocks out of Bedrock

Michael:  I would suggest googling with search parameters as "marble
extraction techniques" and "diamond wire tooling" or variations on similar
themes.  You will be overwhelmed with information, much of it in relation to
historic quarrying techniques, which is a fascinating subject, as I'm sure
many on this list will agree.

Thanks,
Charles Kibby

Preservation Arts
8725 Venice Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90034
PH:    310-558-8003
FAX:  310-558-8775
E: ckibby@...
WEB: www.preservationarts.net

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From: FOSTER,MICHAEL [mailto:michaelfoster@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:44 PM
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Subject: [stone] Re: Cutting Limestone Blocks out of Bedrock

Charles,

         I was clearing some old e-mail out of my inbox 
and read this message .I was not sure  at first why I kept 
it. I am also extracting some coral stone from my 
backyard/small quarry. I tried to google stone pony. I do 
not know what it is in Italian. I had thoughts of using a
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weissinger | 4 Sep 2009 06:33

Presentation by James Hubbell, sculptor/architect/artist

Having just attended a group discussion with James Hubbell, a noted
architect and sculptor, I thought the group might enjoy a few quotes from
his presentation:

1.  Trust yourself; trust your instincts.  You know more than you think you
know.

2.  If you don't get lost sometimes, you're not going to get anywhere.

3.  To regain focus (as when you are in a slump/funk/depression), do fifty
sculptures.  [50? His output obviously is just a tad higher than mine.
Perhaps he means maquettes?]

4.  As you sculpt a piece, the sculpture is sculpting you at the same time;
it is the conversation, he said, between you and your sculpture that is
important, not the sculpture per se.

5.  People that like your work are more dangerous to you than the ones who
don't.

Being a little out of focus in my art-life at the moment, I'm going to try
his tip #3, but with small clay sketches instead of stone.
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Stone Grooves | 4 Sep 2009 08:38
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Re: Presentation by James Hubbell, sculptor/architect/artist

Thanks for that, makes you think....but I don't understand 5. Am I being
dumb?
Ruth

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From: weissinger [mailto:weissinger@...] 
Sent: Friday, 4 September 2009 4:33 p.m.
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Subject: [stone] Presentation by James Hubbell, sculptor/architect/artist

Having just attended a group discussion with James Hubbell, a noted
architect and sculptor, I thought the group might enjoy a few quotes from
his presentation:

1.  Trust yourself; trust your instincts.  You know more than you think you
know.

2.  If you don't get lost sometimes, you're not going to get anywhere.

3.  To regain focus (as when you are in a slump/funk/depression), do fifty
sculptures.  [50? His output obviously is just a tad higher than mine.
Perhaps he means maquettes?]

4.  As you sculpt a piece, the sculpture is sculpting you at the same time;
it is the conversation, he said, between you and your sculpture that is
important, not the sculpture per se.

5.  People that like your work are more dangerous to you than the ones who
don't.
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Clive Murray-White | 4 Sep 2009 09:27
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5.  People that like your work are more dangerous to you than the ones who
don't.

I thought it sounded a bit paranoid when I read it first but just let it be, 
so now you bring it up - its probably more in how its said than anything 
else, as it accidentally (I hope) implies that to some degree all people are 
dangerous to you and your work.

People who like your work aren't really going to challenge what you stand 
for, how you do things or even your basic aesthetics; with adoration and no 
real challenges it is very easy to become soft, lazy and self-satisfied, 
maybe that is the danger Hubbell is referring to?

People who don't like your work represent a challenge, make you think and 
possibly become more inventive and critical - in that way they are 
infinitely more useful to you, and therefore less dangerous, that the 
"likers"

One of the most dangerous things about the "likers" is that they are more 
likely to buy your work, but often they say things like, "I really liked 
that work you did a couple of years ago, you know the one with much larger 
smooth areas than you a doing now'" subtlety this can push you into pleasing 
them rather than progressing your art to where it should be going. Do it 
enough times and you forget who you are!

Clive

Sculptor Clive Murray-White
W: www.cowwarr.com/CliveMurray-White/
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Jim | 4 Sep 2009 14:59

Re: Cutting Limestone Blocks out of Bedrock

Hi,

Stonemad's Web-Sitevideo section has a video showing a few old-timers
sawing/cutting out a block of limestone with basically a saw, water hose &
pry bars.

Jim H.

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From: Charles Kibby [mailto:ckibby@...] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 3:05 PM
To: stone@...
Subject: [stone] Re: Cutting Limestone Blocks out of Bedrock

Michael:  I would suggest googling with search parameters as "marble
extraction techniques" and "diamond wire tooling" or variations on similar
themes.  You will be overwhelmed with information, much of it in relation to
historic quarrying techniques, which is a fascinating subject, as I'm sure
many on this list will agree.

Thanks,
Charles Kibby

Preservation Arts
8725 Venice Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90034
PH:    310-558-8003
FAX:  310-558-8775
E: ckibby@...
WEB: www.preservationarts.net
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Marg Gurr | 4 Sep 2009 15:07
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Re: PESENTATION BY JAMES HUBBELL

Thoughtful insights Clive...well actually a) great advice from James; b) thanks for sharing Bill; c) # 5
stumped me too Ruth; d) thoughtful insights Clive.  My obsessive-compulsive side is alive and well this
morning!  
There are some folks from whom a compliment can do more damage than good, perhaps unwittingly, but you
nailed it Clive.  It's the subtlety that can worm it's way into your head and erode away at the foundation of
newly conceived ideas.  I'm terribly vulnerable to this and try to maintain my internal system of checks
and balances.  I can very much appreciate the notion of  conversation between sculptor and stone.  It's
truly a relationship with all of the associated frailties and strengths.
marg
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Bill Knight | 4 Sep 2009 15:17
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Against #4:  The stone will not be carving me.  Not today, not any  
day.  I'm serious about this!
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Steve W | 4 Sep 2009 15:40
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#4.  As you sculpt a piece, the sculpture is sculpting you at the same time;
it is the conversation, he said, between you and your sculpture that is
important, not the sculpture per se.
 
That's not entirely how I read this Bill, not literally anyway.. The "conversation" is in fact the act of
carving and creation of art and not the resulting artifact or what we are left with upon completion. In my
mind it is inescapable that the act will change you and propel you forward, it must unless that act is purely
mechanical and repetitious in nature. More and more I come to realize that the Art is in the making and the
only thing I think about anymore is the one I have yet to make.
 
StevenW
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From: Bill Knight <wfmknight@...>
Subject: [stone] Re: PESENTATION BY JAMES HUBBELL
To: stone@...
Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 7:17 AM

Against #4:  The stone will not be carving me.  Not today, not any  
day.  I'm serious about this!

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