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Don Dougan | 1 Mar 2005 05:57
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Re: Tyndall limestone - or surface patterns and form

RE:  "To experience serendipity one must have pre-existing
parameters of expectation . . . space and material keyed and
opened by a dark grain of imagination."

Bill's words flow from that silver tongue yet again.

As you also spoke about texture (your uploaded Fotki pix), I think
you enjoy playing at Devil's advocate to Bob's query.

Perhaps I do too -- I wrote that polish was overrated, and I stand by
that,
but as has been mentioned more than once, a polished stone carving sells
much more quickly than one that isn't.  Early in my career (when I made
simple
forms that were polished from stem to stern) my work sold about as fast
as I 
could make it (unfortunately, I never could make it very fast).

As I kept raising my prices I also kept exploring the medium -- pushing
myself to 
find that treasure that lies between the potential of the material, the
scope of my 
imagination, and the skill in my hands.  This exploration led me away
from the 
tried-and-true; the 'glorified lumps' that my undergraduate sculpture
professor 
called my work (he was not a stonecarver, and thought that REAL sculptors
fabricated steel, and he refused to have soapstone in HIS sculpture
studio, so 
I threw away the truckload of Georgia soapstone I had brought to school
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Charles Kibby | 1 Mar 2005 06:37
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Re: Travertine as countertop?

Philippe:  Travertine is approaching the category of "the worst stone one
could choose for a countertop material".  As John says, it's calcareous and
therefore subject to etching from acid-based materials such as lemon juice,
orange juice, or even Coke (carbolic acid).  Most travertines are of the
sedimentary type (formed by deposition in layers on ancient seabeds) rather
than the precipitate variety (as in limestone caves, stalactites, and all
that).  Consequently, they have a wide range of density in the base
material, and can be very absorbent or very resistant to absorption,
depending on the area of the stone one chooses to analyze.  The common
factor with travertines ( among the more common variety of limestones on the
planet) is the voids formed during the original formation process due to
carbon dioxide bubbles.   These voids are usually filled with either
polyester resin or cementitious fill material in the factory to minimize the
dirt-trapping potential of the natural material, but there is always the
latent ability of the stone to trap or aborb dirt, or any other foreign
material.

You can make lovely lovely sculptures out of this material (Mussolini's
minions did a great job of this at the Milan train station) and it is
reasonably resistant to abrasion (making it a good flooring material)but you
will not be a happy chappy if you use this stuff for your countertops.

Stick with honed marble (a true metamorphic stone) and you won't regret it.

Good Luck,
Chaz

Hi everyone,

Does anybody know if Travertine makes a good kitchen countertop? What
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Ted Schaghy | 1 Mar 2005 07:02

Re: Introduction

Pete,
Thanks.  Got that book.

Yup, you're right.  I set aside the hard stone today and started with
another, better chunk of slate.  Things are looking up.

Ted

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Bill Marsh | 1 Mar 2005 07:12
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Re: alabaster clouding

grossman@... wrote:

>Does this just mean that
>water has penetrated the stone and it will go translucent again when it
>dries out or is it now permanently cloudy  <at> #$%# <at> $  ? atb, g
>

Gary,

It might clear up in a dry environment, but I doubt it.  That stone is 
also very susceptible to heat clouding, so be careful with grinding and 
electric polishing.  I practically torched a piece of it the first time 
I used it.

Bill Marsh
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Bill Marsh | 1 Mar 2005 07:16
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Re: Tyndall limestone - or surface patterns and form

abknight@... wrote:

>To experience serendipity one must have pre-existing
>parameters of expectation.  
>

Is this sort of like "luck favors the prepared mind?"

Bill Marsh
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abknight | 1 Mar 2005 14:08
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Re: alabaster clouding

Hi Gary,

   I retell of alabaster I clouded and crazed, by core
drill heat expansion.  I then applied a penetrating
color enhancing  sealer: blue skies in a bottle. 
Imagine my wonder as the crazing vanished as well.

Busybody#13 with de-crazingest ideas.
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Robin Putnam | 1 Mar 2005 14:05
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Re: Class in Kansas City


>From: Faraut Philippe <pcf@...>

Hi Robin,
>
>I will be teaching a seminar in Kansas City  April 8-10, however it is
>a portrait class in clay, not stone.  We will have a couple of models.
>My stone workshop will be here in upstate NY Sept. It will also be
>primarily figurative. Do you carve portraits?

Hi Philippe,

No I don't carve portraits but my friend does and I've been after him to 
take your workshop.  Getting him to KC would be a huge thing .....getting 
him to NY will be impossible !  I will tell him all of this today.... 
hopefully others will be interested and join you.  Thanks for letting us 
know.

~Robin
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Norman Watts | 1 Mar 2005 14:12
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cost of hauling stone

I want to have a 5000 lb block of granite delivered from a quarry 80 
miles away. The quarry will load the block, but I have to hire a 
hauler. I'm told hauling would be about $500. Does this seem a 
reasonable price?

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abknight | 1 Mar 2005 14:16
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Re: Tyndall limestone - or surface patterns and form

Don,

wonderful exposition, even beyond the usual!

Bill
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Bob Hackett | 1 Mar 2005 14:36
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FINALLY! The secret to being a successful artist/sculptor

Don,

  Let me see if I`ve got this right.
In order to be a financially successful sculptor all I really need is a much
larger drum for my rock tumbler.

Seems as though I`m fated to remain a poor,depressed craftsman.
At least the bad news was delivered by friends.

Bob
PS-I still refuse to believe that just because it sells,it`s art.Or even
quality craft for that matter.
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