pdion | 2 Sep 15:13 2002
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Brabeia Hugo

Anakoinw8hkan ta brabeia hugo tou 2002 kai einai:

*Brabeio gia kalytero Novel:
American Gods tou Neil Gaiman
(den to kserw, kserei kanenas tipota;)

*Novella:
"Fast Times at Fairmont High", Vernor Vinge
(O Vinge exei grapsei ta "A Fire Upon The Deep" kai "A Deepnes In The Sky"
pou einai yperoxa kai exoun kerdisei
Huga palaiotera)

*"Hell Is the Absence of God", Ted Chiang
(Oute gi'ayto yparxoyne polles plhrofories)

*Short Story
"The Dog Said Bow-Wow", Michael Swanwick (to monadiko apo to Asimov's)

kai bebaia:
DRAMATIC PRESENTATION:
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
(oloi prepei na kserete ti einai ayto :-)

Thn plhrh lista twn brabeiwn mporeite na thn deite sto
http://www.locusmag.com/2002/News/News09Log1.html

Panayiotis G. Dionyssopoulos
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Dimitris Tsallas | 2 Sep 20:09 2002
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Re: Brabeia Hugo

pdion <at> enterprise.gr wrote:
> Anakoinw8hkan ta brabeia hugo tou 2002 kai einai:
> 
> *Brabeio gia kalytero Novel:
> American Gods tou Neil Gaiman
> (den to kserw, kserei kanenas tipota;)

Den to exv diabasei alla yparxoyn polla reviews sto diktyo: 
http://www.google.com/search?q=american+gods+review&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0

> 
> *Novella:
> "Fast Times at Fairmont High", Vernor Vinge
> (O Vinge exei grapsei ta "A Fire Upon The Deep" kai "A Deepnes In The Sky"
> pou einai yperoxa kai exoun kerdisei
> Huga palaiotera)
> 
> *"Hell Is the Absence of God", Ted Chiang
> (Oute gi'ayto yparxoyne polles plhrofories)

Na mia noybella (etsi metafrazetai to novelette 'h den exoyme antistoixh 
lejh?) toy Chiang: 
http://web.archive.org/web/20000919085407/http://www.iplus.zetnet.co.uk/stories/under.htm

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Bill Babouris | 3 Sep 00:46 2002
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Re: Brabeia Hugo

At 16:13 2/9/2002 +0300, you wrote:
>Anakoinw8hkan ta brabeia hugo tou 2002 kai einai:
>
>*Brabeio gia kalytero Novel:
>American Gods tou Neil Gaiman
>(den to kserw, kserei kanenas tipota;)

Einai ena eksairetiko mythistorima -- prosfata kerdise kai to Bram Stoker 
award. Eksistorei ti maxi ton palion theon (Odin, Kali, etc,) me tous neous 
theous tis Amerikhs (to Internet, ta emporika kentra, tin tileorasi etc.), 
alla parallila leitourgei kai os astynomiko thriller me mia dosi apo road 
movie, me entona stoixeia fantasy kai horror . To American Gods tha vgei 
kai sta Ellhnika, sth seira KOLASH ton ekdoseon OXY.

*"Hell Is the Absence of God", Ted Chiang
>(Oute gi'ayto yparxoyne polles plhrofories)

Mazi me tin Kelly Link, o Chiang theoreitai o kalyteros neos syggrafeas 
diigimaton stin Amerikh. Prosfate kykloforise h proti tou syllogi (Stories 
of Our Lives, and others).

Kalo diavasma,

Vasilis Babouris

Alexandros Diamantidis | 3 Sep 12:11 2002
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Re: Brabeia Hugo

* Dimitris Tsallas <tsallas <at> softlab.ece.ntua.gr> [2002-09-02 21:09]:
> pdion <at> enterprise.gr wrote:
> > 
> > "Fast Times at Fairmont High", Vernor Vinge
> > 
> > *"Hell Is the Absence of God", Ted Chiang
> 
> Na mia noybella (etsi metafrazetai to novelette 'h den exoyme antistoixh 
> lejh?) toy Chiang: 

Nomizw pws nai...

Ta dyo parapanw mporeite na ta diabasete dwrean sto
http://www.fictionwise.com/

Epishs brhka kai to ejhs site:

LINKS TO THE 2002 HUGO AWARD NOMINEES
http://www.spiritone.com/~jlorentz/hugos/finallist.html

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-- 
Alexandros Diamantidis * adia <at> noc.uoa.gr

Panayiotis Andriopoulos | 4 Sep 14:30 2002
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Opoios den einai gyaika na kanei ena vima mprosta... POU PAS VRE KARAMHTRO?

Epeidh ta llogia einai ftwxia kaleisthe opws apanthsete sto ekshs
sygklonistiko erwthma:

O genikos gynakeios plythismos ti eidous sxesh exei me thn e.f.;

Kathe apantisi einai dekth, arkei na mhn kseperna tis 250 pyknogrammenes
selides (ksereis esy, nai nai, esy pou kryvesai sth galaria)

Eeeeeeuxaristw

Lamprini Thoma | 4 Sep 15:07 2002
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American Gods

Ena apospasma apo to American Gods (chapt.1)

http://www.neilgaiman.com/books/americangods_mm.asp

L.

Tom Tziros | 4 Sep 15:25 2002
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Re: American Gods

 
[snip]
 Me to poy eida to onoma soy Lamprini, fobhuhka oti ua aoantoyses ston Pano.... emeina me thn orejh :-((
 
Tom
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Lamprini Thoma | 4 Sep 15:26 2002
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Re: American Gods

Eipa na parasthsw thn a0wa kai perastikh prin perasw sthn antepi0esh, alla
me karfwses;-) Frontise mh karfwseis ki alla -to brwmiko sf parel0on moy, as
poyme;-)
L.

Grafei o 0wmas:
Me to poy eida to onoma soy Lamprini, fobhuhka oti ua apantoyses ston
Pano.... emeina me thn orejh :-((

Tom

Lamprini Thoma | 4 Sep 15:43 2002
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One step beyond

Twra, na paw sthn koyzina moy na plynw kana piato, .h. na kanw th xarh toy
0wma, ki as apey0ynontan to mail soy, mon cher Paa, se opoion "den einai
gynaika"? Na kanw th xarh toy 0wma (0wma, mhn karfwneis,mono, ase to topi na
kylaei)..;-)
Loipon... nomizw oti genika o ellhn plh0ysmos poy asxoleitai sxetika sobara
me thn SF den einai polys (kai ta pragmata einai akomh xeirotera me th
Fantasy). Opote, to na arxizoyn ta "ta agorakia de3ia-ta koritsakia
aristera" einai mallon ektos topoy kai xronoy. H diafora, bebaiws yparxei.
Einai posotikh (yper twn agoriwn) alla einai kai poiotikh (yper twn
koritsiwn): as poyme, h doyleia poy exei kanei h Domna (Pastoyrmatzh) einai
anektimhth, to altfactor einai me diafora to kalytero site epi toy
zhthmatos, ki an ta 0ymamai kala, gynaika arxisyntaktis htan ayth poy ebale
thn SF stis ellhnikes efhmerides, prin liga xronia. Opote, lew, to 0ema
mallon den einai ari0mhtiko monon .h. de 0a prepei na to blepei kaneis monon
etsi.
Twra, sto interneti, exei ligotera koritsia genikws, opote, logika, kai sth
lista exei ligotera koritsia kai genikws, ta koritsia den ta pane kala me
tis omadopoihseis (h fysh) opote den th briskoyn na entassontai se pantos
eidoys omades (mh koitas tis e3aireseis). Kai ena akomh: ki osa yparxoyn, se
tetoioy eidoys listes mporei na protimoyn na mpainoyn me afyla accounts .h.
agoristika onomata (opws Karamhtros). Ara, apo ti interneti mh krinete, ina
mh kri0eite.
I rest my case.
L.

Cymoril | 4 Sep 20:58 2002
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RE: One step beyond

Xwris th dunatothta na suneisferw me polu perissotera (e3etastikh gar), 8elw
mono na sumfwnisw me ta prolegomena - estw kai gia logous arxeiou. Pantws, o
erwthsas isws na mporouse na e3hghsei *giati* endiaferetai na ma8ei? Oi
sf/fantasy fans sthn ellada einai ligoi genika, o ka8enas mas me tis dikes
tou idaiateres protimhseis kai tis dikes tou "para3enies". An prepei na
baloume titlo panw apo to ka8eti, fobamai pws 8a katalh3ei o ka8enas na
anhkei sth dikia tou omada!
Parola auta, prepei na eimaste ...arketes!(:P)As mhn 3exname pws oi kairoi
exoun alla3ei kai pws o Ioulios Bern ftanei pia kai sta xeria mikrwn
koritsiwn (toulaxiston eftane otan ta mikra koritsia diabazan biblia akomh)
molunontas thn fantasia tous...
(h lame poihtikh dia8esh einai proion ths dusaresths epoxhs!parakalw th
sugnwmh sas, alla to exw anagkh)
Xristianna

-----Original Message-----
From: Lamprini Thoma [mailto:lthoma <at> otenet.gr]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 4:44 PM
To: sfgr <at> yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SFGR] One step beyond

Twra, na paw sthn koyzina moy na plynw kana piato, .h. na kanw th xarh toy
0wma, ki as apey0ynontan to mail soy, mon cher Paa, se opoion "den einai
gynaika"? Na kanw th xarh toy 0wma (0wma, mhn karfwneis,mono, ase to topi na
kylaei)..;-)
Loipon... nomizw oti genika o ellhn plh0ysmos poy asxoleitai sxetika sobara
me thn SF den einai polys (kai ta pragmata einai akomh xeirotera me th
Fantasy). Opote, to na arxizoyn ta "ta agorakia de3ia-ta koritsakia
aristera" einai mallon ektos topoy kai xronoy. H diafora, bebaiws yparxei.
Einai posotikh (yper twn agoriwn) alla einai kai poiotikh (yper twn
koritsiwn): as poyme, h doyleia poy exei kanei h Domna (Pastoyrmatzh) einai
anektimhth, to altfactor einai me diafora to kalytero site epi toy
zhthmatos, ki an ta 0ymamai kala, gynaika arxisyntaktis htan ayth poy ebale
thn SF stis ellhnikes efhmerides, prin liga xronia. Opote, lew, to 0ema
mallon den einai ari0mhtiko monon .h. de 0a prepei na to blepei kaneis monon
etsi.
Twra, sto interneti, exei ligotera koritsia genikws, opote, logika, kai sth
lista exei ligotera koritsia kai genikws, ta koritsia den ta pane kala me
tis omadopoihseis (h fysh) opote den th briskoyn na entassontai se pantos
eidoys omades (mh koitas tis e3aireseis). Kai ena akomh: ki osa yparxoyn, se
tetoioy eidoys listes mporei na protimoyn na mpainoyn me afyla accounts .h.
agoristika onomata (opws Karamhtros). Ara, apo ti interneti mh krinete, ina
mh kri0eite.
I rest my case.
L.

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