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racine_sans_bout | 1 Sep 2008 01:00
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Re: The FBI and Other Authorities on Charity Fraud

Because you are a fraud, Kevin, it pleases you to suggest that decent 
people are like you.  That's called "projection".  We are not like you, 
Kevin, we are nothing like you, you are destructive and hateful.  
Suppose by your innuendo campaign, you somehow made it possible for us 
to feed one less child.  How does that child going to bed hungry, help 
YOU?

You are obsessed with me and with my activities, and despite all of the 
topics which you could address here, I and my activities are the only 
topics that interest you.

Dear Forum Contributors, Kevin Filan is a fraud and an internet troll, 
he is not a Houngan, never had a kanzo in Haiti, in fact has only spent 
eight days in that country.  He's certifiably mentally ill, as any 
short search on Google Groups Advanced Search using as keywords "Kevin 
Filan" and any obscene word will prove, you don't have to take my word 
for it.

This forum is not about "why I, Kevin Filan, am delusional and project 
my delusions onto Mambo Racine Sans Bout."  Do you have any idea how 
revoltingly, boringly predictable this is. Kevin?  You do this innuendo 
campaign every time Vodou Aid raises money to feed people.  What do you 
think you look like, Kevin?  Do you think anyone is impressed?  I think 
we should start a new charity and raise money for your mental health 
care, which you so clearly have needed for decades now.

We have been feeding and providing medical care to Haitians for years 
now, despite Kevin's best efforts to discretit a charity that has NO 
overhead, rents NO office space, and has NO paid employees.  Every cent 
we receive goes straight to Haitians, in Haiti.
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racine_sans_bout | 1 Sep 2008 01:10
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Free and Accurate On-Topic Information (was: For Those Who Are Tired)

--- In arealvoodooclub <at> yahoogroups.com, "Kenaz Filan" 
<kenazfilan <at> ...> wrote:
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> If you would like a higher 
> signal-to-noise ratio

Kevin, you are the one who is creating the "noise", you are the one 
making the off-topic obsessive posts goaded on by your hatred of me 
and of Haitians and you are the one, under your million and a half 
screen names, making the idiotic sex-oriented posts here.

> Kathy Latzoni
> (Mambo Zetwal Kleye).

Kathy Latzoni is NO MAMBO and never had a kanzo in Haiti.

Free information on Vodou may be found at:

The VODOU Page - 
http://members.aol.com/racine125/index.html

Information on our house, the Roots Without End Society, can be found 
at:

http://www.rootswithoutend.org/index.php

Here is a list of Haitian practitioners, living in Haiti:

Mambo Andreli, Priestess of Dantor - 
http://www.rootswithoutend.org/emporium/mambo_andreli.html
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racine_sans_bout | 1 Sep 2008 01:33
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Why is Azaka a "work lwa"?

The lwa Azaka has many aspects - Azaka Mede, Kouzen (Cousin) Azaka, 
Minis Azaka (Minister Azaka, as in Minister of Agriculture.)  He's 
Gede's younger brother - think about it, you bury a seed, just not so 
deep!

He's famous as a work lwa, meaning a lwa you can give work to do.  
He's a hick, he's Haiti's answer to the Beverly Hillbillies.  And 
he's mean and he steals.

Well... why?

Right now I have a beautiful vegetable garden.  I have beefsteak 
tomatos and plum tomatos and cherry tomatos and something called 
physalis, I have corn and eggplant and peas and red beans and string 
beans, I have zucchini and summer squash and cucumbers, I have basil 
and cilantro and red hot Haitian peppers and green peppers of two 
types, and radishes, dont' forget the radishes.

I did all of it "green", never powered up a gasoline-fueled 
rototiller or even a gasoline-fueled lawn mower.  That's how Haitian 
farmers work too, but not by choice, they can't afford the machinery 
or the gasoline.

By the end of planting season I was so strong I was practically 
ripping the doorknobs off of doors!  I felt like I could move 
boulders, for gosh sakes!

And coming in tired like that, I wasn't interested in any nonsense 
from anyone, and I sometimes snapped at people a little (heavens, can 
you believe it?  ;-}  )  I didn't steal, but I could see how a tired
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david cloud | 1 Sep 2008 05:40
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come look at my new group please

shamancloudsmiracleshampoo <at> yahoogroups.com

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racine_sans_bout | 1 Sep 2008 15:57
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Orthodoxy and Improvisation

Vodou is an orthodox religion, by which I mean that it is 
conservative, following established rules and honoring methods that 
are centuries old.

For example, the image associated with Ogoun in Rada is always, 
always, that of St. Jacques Majeur, St. James the Greater, Santiago, 
in whatever language the image is the same, it's the man dressed in 
blue on the white horse with the white banner and the red cross, with 
the sword in his hand.  Ogoun's vever is always the same, it can be 
embellished, but it is always the Nago triangle and 
Ogoun's "curlicue" and swords, and eight-pointed stars for Rada, and 
the little "A" on either side that stands for one of Ogoun's titles.

A person can get creative, paint the image of St. Jaques on the sides 
of his or her peristyle, embroider it on velvet with seqins and 
pearls to make a sequinned flag and then put golden fringes on it, 
that's fine.  A Mambo might use more, or fewer, embellishments on the 
vever.  But Ogoun's flag staff must have a little carved curlicue of 
a particular type on top or it isn't Ogoun's flag staff, and an image 
of another entity is not an image of Ogoun.

Donald Cosentino made much of a Houngan who had some little action 
figure doll on his altar, some Power Ranger or something like that, 
because it reminded him of Ogoun.  And well it might have, it was red 
and it was male and it was warlike.  That Houngan can put a doll on 
his altar if he wants, it's meaningless to anyone except him and that 
does not make a mechanical doll into an "image of Ogoun".

There is a fellow going up and down other discussion groups screaming 
that people should improvise (this is Kevin Filan, who claims to be a
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racine_sans_bout | 1 Sep 2008 16:03
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Re: come look at my new group please

--- In arealvoodooclub <at> yahoogroups.com, "david cloud" <shamancloud <at> ...> 
wrote:
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> shamancloudsmiracleshampoo <at> yahoogroups.com

Good for you.

I don't know anything about your shampoo, and honestly a shampoo can 
not cure snakebite because the neurotoxins are carried through the 
bloodstream, so unless you are going to inject your shampoo into the 
veins of snakebite victims it literally can not have an effect.

But let's put that aside.  I went to your website and I liked it and I 
espcially liked it that you had quite a few audio recordings of Native 
American songs.

May I respectfully ask you - to what Native American group do you 
belong?  I'm not trying to cut you down or anything like that, please 
don't confust me and that mentally ill Kevin Filan.  I would really 
like to know!  The area where I live was of some significance to the 
Native Americans who lived here, and that is part of the reason why I 
want to learn more.

Peace and love,

Mambo Racine
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Kenaz Filan | 2 Sep 2008 02:30
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Since We're Talking About Foreign Aid Scammers

...here's a little song for the occasion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_YjvC4ndzM

It's not quite  Fela Kuti, but fans of Nigerian music and Afropop will
appreciate this infernally catchy ode to Nigeria's most (in)famous
industry.

- k

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kenaz filan
author, *the haitian vodou handbook*
managing editor, *new witch* magazine
95-22 63rd Rd. #506, Rego Park, NY 11374
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http://www.harveyshangout.com
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Houngan Dayiva Daginen | 2 Sep 2008 03:02
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Re: Since We're Talking About Foreign Aid Scammers

What proof do you have that anything fraudulent is going on?
NONE!
GO AHEAD! Prove me wrong!
This is a direct challenge to you Kevin.
You have tried to lie about Vodou Aid in the past, there are numerous 
posts to prove this point in case you want to deny it.
You could not provide a single reason for thinking anything 
fraudulent was going on then, and you still can't now.
as for your little link...
I have a better idea,
How about YOU Kevin go to Jacmel.
We will be sure to send word that you are coming and how you are 
trying to stop food from them when they need it most.
I'm sure they will be happy to express, ah, "gratitude" to you!
You know, you timed it so well.
You obviously read that communications are down,
otherwise...........
Loulou's phone number would answer anyone's question about who was 
telling the truth.
It is however, the tactics of low intelligence since once 
communications are up again................
It can easily be seen who is telling the truth.
THEN everyone can see clearly what an ammoral person you are.
How you care nothing if poeple starve, even Vodouisants in Haiti when 
you claim to be an Houngan (without going to Haiti)

You know, I would NEVER, EVER, EVER EVER try to stop releif going to 
Haiti. Regardless of who was running it. If I couldn't stand someone 
for whatever reason and they ran a charity for poeple in Haiti I 
would either contribute, contribute and promote, or keep my mouth
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Houngan Dayiva Daginen | 2 Sep 2008 04:40
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Re: come look at my new group please

--- In arealvoodooclub <at> yahoogroups.com, "racine_sans_bout" 
<racine_sans_bout <at> ...> wrote:
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> --- In arealvoodooclub <at> yahoogroups.com, "david cloud" 
<shamancloud <at> > 
> wrote:
> >
> > shamancloudsmiracleshampoo <at> yahoogroups.com
> 
> Good for you.
> 
> I don't know anything about your shampoo, and honestly a shampoo 
can 
> not cure snakebite because the neurotoxins are carried through the 
> bloodstream, so unless you are going to inject your shampoo into 
the 
> veins of snakebite victims it literally can not have an effect.
> 
> But let's put that aside.  I went to your website and I liked it 
and I 
> espcially liked it that you had quite a few audio recordings of 
Native 
> American songs.
> 
> May I respectfully ask you - to what Native American group do you 
> belong?  I'm not trying to cut you down or anything like that, 
please 
> don't confust me and that mentally ill Kevin Filan.  I would really 
> like to know!  The area where I live was of some significance to 
the
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Kenaz Filan | 2 Sep 2008 05:38
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Vodou, Orthodoxy and Oral Traditions

Those of us born in literate cultures look to the written word as our
final arbiter on acceptable practice.  A Roman Catholic can check his
priest's performance against the authorized Missal: an Orthodox Jew
can consult the Torah, Talmud and various Commentaries: British
Traditional Witches mark the Degrees by adding new initiatory secrets
to their Books of Shadows.  All these faiths have a Right Way of doing
things and more-or-less defined boundaries marking the differences
between adherents, heretics and unbelievers.   In each, literacy has
long been a requirement for priestly offices at least.  By contrast,
Haitian Vodou developed among (and is currently practiced by) a
largely illiterate populace.  Understanding the ways in which this
shaped their religious preconceptions, and our own, will help us to
get a better grasp of the faith: so too will an understanding of the
environment in which it developed.

For most of Haiti's history, a Houngan or Mambo didn't need to worry
about whether their initiation would be recognized throughout the
island.  Their world might be ten miles in each direction; they might
die without ever seeing a town of more than a few hundred people.
They served their spirits in the ways they were taught by their
family.  When they couldn't find a particular item they learned to
make do with another: their relationship with their family spirits
grew and changed as they and their descendents grew and changed.
There was no country-wide organization which licensed Vodou clergy:
initiations tended to be smaller family affairs rather than today's
elaborate Kanzo ceremony.

We still see these initiatory practices in Vodu Cubano and Vodu
Dominicano, which were established by Haitian migrant workers in the
early 19th century.  We also see them in many of the more rural
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