kuntimaddi sadananda | 1 Sep 17:46 2008
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Knowledge and the Means of Knowledge - 19

We are discussing Vedanta ParibhASha of Darmaraaja Advarindra, as I understand. VP addresses briefly the
ontological status of pariNAma and Vivarta aspects of creation and then discusses the status of silver
that is seen where nacre is.  Because of the importance of this topic, we provide some detailed analysis of
creation as a transformation. 

                        Knowledge and the Means of knowledge -19

Creation as a transformation:

Vedanta says Brahman is one without a second – ekam, eva, advitiiyam.  One, alone, without a second, and
Shankara comments on the use of these three separate words – ekam, eva and advitiiyam – to negate
differences of any kind.  Three kinds of differences can exist; vijaati, sajaati and swagata bhedas and
hence Shankara says three separate words are used by the scripture only to negate all these three types of
differences. Differences between different genus (says trees different from stones – vijaati
bheda), differences within the same genus or family (among the trees say mango tree is different from
coconut tree, etc – sajaati bhedas) and differences within a unit or vyakti (in a tree the roots,
branches, leaves, fruits, etc are different- swagata bhedas). The differences exist because all
objects are made up of parts. In Brahman, since it is one without a second, there is nothing else to
differentiate it from. Hence scriptures also call
 Brahman as agotram – meaning it does not belong to any family or genus since it is one without a second.   It is
undifferentiated homogeneous mass of consciousness defined by Vedas as prajnaanam brahma.  We have
discussed this before that it is a swaruupa lakshaNam of Brahman implying that consciousness is Brahman
and Brahman is consciousness. Since consciousness has to exist, Brahman is also defined as pure
existence.  Being one without a second Brahman has to be limitless or anantam which also means that it is of
the nature of pure aananda swaruupam.  Implication of all this is that there cannot be anything other than
Brahman, and therefore there cannot be anything other than pure undifferentiated infinite
existence-consciousness. 

The question then arises as to how to explain the universe of things and beings consisting of many conscious
and inert entities.  Brahman, a conscious entity without a second appear to transform itself into many
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RAMESH RAMANAN | 2 Sep 13:40 2008
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help needed on viewing, downloading and converting tiff files from digital library of India

Dear all members on the Advaita-vedanta.org Board,
  Pranams,

  I will be sincerely grateful if someone could guide me on viewing, downloading and converting TIFF files
into pdf files from the digital library of India. I found many useful files, but was unable to download or
convert them into pdf format. The members can email me at
rameshramanan@... with their suggestions and advice. Thanks
in advance, Ramesh Ramanan.

       
Siva Senani Nori | 2 Sep 18:04 2008
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Re: help needed on viewing, downloading and converting tiff files from digital library of India

I am a great fan of the Digital Library of India and would like as many persons as possible to make use of it. To
that end, I am deliberately making this more detailed than is warranted otherwise.
First, let us understand that with the AlternaTIFF plug in (free download, follow instructions on the web
site of the Digital Library of India), we can view all the pages. If you are unable to download the plug in,
you can still view each individual page as an image which pops up in a new window.
The above procedure is cumbersome if one wants an entire book. In fact, it is designed to be so. The idea is not
to make books available to be downloaded freely; it is only to make books readable online. This is not due
to some painful bureaucrat dreaming up imaginative restrictions: it is to respect copyright laws. The
author (except if the project is funded by a public institution) and his estate retains the copyright
till 60 years after the death of the author in India. Considering that most books were published only in the
twentieth century, and that most authors actually passed away in the latter part of the century, most
books have this restriction. There are alternate sites (www.archive.org and www.ulib.org) where books
outside the copyright restriction are available as a PDF or a DJVU, but the collection is very limited.
So, the answer to Sri Ramesh Ramanan's question is: One is not expected to convert the TIFF files into PDF,
and the procedure is not straight forward or simple. 
That said, it is not illegal to store the book, or make a PDF if one insists, for one's own use. Here is how to do it.
Open each page, save the image to a particular folder. Since the images are very nicely named 001.tiff,
002.tiff and so on, this is very convenient. I actually leave it at this stage. Some might want to use a PDF
writer (Adobe Acrobat Writer or Professional or some such version) and bind all these images into a PDF.
The resultant PDF is bulky enough to discourage indiscriminate sharing but with file sharing services,
nothing remains difficult. Therefore, please note:
MOST PERSONS ON THIS LIST CAN AFFORD TO BUY THESE BOOKS; THE INSTITUTIONS WHICH PUBLISH THEM ARE DOING SOME
VERY GOOD WORK AND NEED THE MONEY. FOR MANY REASONS BEYOND THE LAW IT IS PROPER TO BUY THESE BOOKS AND NOT
ABUSE THE DIGITAL LIBRARY OF INDIA.
Regards
Senani

----- Original Message ----
> From: RAMESH RAMANAN <rameshramanan@...>
> To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta <advaita-l@...ta.org>
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Jaldhar H. Vyas | 2 Sep 23:23 2008

New member introduction: Balagopal

seeking the 'self' through the 'advaita' way is chosen by me and hope to 
give and take lots of knowledge through this group.
Siva Senani Nori | 3 Sep 13:12 2008
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Re: help needed on viewing, downloading and converting tiff files from digital library of India

Dear Sri Ajit Krishnan

I mostly depend on Gopal Books at Kacheguda, Hyderabad. MLBD (Moti Lal Banarsi Das) publications are of
high quality and most would be made available at MLBD stores in various metros (in Chennai, it is at Mylapore).

Nirnay Sagar Press books (or for that matter Vani Vilas, Srirangam or Vavilla Ramasastrulu & Sons,
Chennai) are a different matter though.They are not available.

If original texts in Sanskrit is what you are looking for, you might want to check out the various palm leaf
and other manuscripts available at DLI site maintained by CDAC, Noida at www.dli.cdacnoida.in.

Regards
Senani

----- Original Message ----
> From: Ajit Krishnan <ajit.krishnan@...>
> To: Siva Senani Nori <sivasenani@...>; A discussion group for
Advaita Vedanta <advaita-l@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2008 5:35:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] help needed on viewing, downloading and converting tiff files from digital
library of India
> 
> namaste,
> 
> > MOST PERSONS ON THIS LIST CAN AFFORD TO BUY THESE BOOKS;
> 
> I agree with the thought, especially when it comes to books in
> English, or those that are easily available, such as the
> sankara-granthavali republished by Samata books. However, when it
> comes to the "sanskrity editions" (sanskrit texts and
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Ajit Krishnan | 3 Sep 02:05 2008
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Re: help needed on viewing, downloading and converting tiff files from digital library of India

namaste,

> MOST PERSONS ON THIS LIST CAN AFFORD TO BUY THESE BOOKS;

I agree with the thought, especially when it comes to books in
English, or those that are easily available, such as the
sankara-granthavali republished by Samata books. However, when it
comes to the "sanskrity editions" (sanskrit texts and
[sub-]commentaries, with little or no translation), I have a really
hard time locating them for purchase. The DLI and university libraries
are a treasure trove for these texts.

Perhaps some of you would be kind enough to share the names / contact
information for booksellers that carry these kinds of titles. During
my next trip to India, I'm willing to make a special side-trip just
for this.

Examples of such books are "upanishad-bhashyam" published by Mahesh
Research Institute, and pretty much anything advaita previously
published by Nirnaya Sagar Press.

bhavadIyaH,

        ajit

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Siva Senani Nori <sivasenani@...> wrote:
> I am a great fan of the Digital Library of India and would like as many persons as possible to make use of it. To
that end, I am deliberately making this more detailed than is warranted otherwise.
> First, let us understand that with the AlternaTIFF plug in (free download, follow instructions on the web
site of the Digital Library of India), we can view all the pages. If you are unable to download the plug in,
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Ravi | 3 Sep 16:56 2008
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Re: help needed on viewing, downloading and converting tiff files from digital library of India


RAMESH RAMANAN <rameshramanan <at> ...> writes:

> 
> Dear all members on the Advaita-vedanta.org Board,
>   Pranams,
> 
>   I will be sincerely grateful if someone could guide me on viewing,
downloading and converting TIFF files
> into pdf files from the digital library of India. I found many useful files,
but was unable to download or
> convert them into pdf format. The members can email me at
> rameshramanan <at> ... with their suggestions and advice. Thanks
> in advance, Ramesh Ramanan.
> 
>        
> 

I have done this for over a dozen books so far (including the vaidyanaatha
diixitiiyam at vaidyanatha.ambaa.org and some pdf files in ambaa.org/pdf/). 
Even though I prefer regular printed and bound books, there are some advantages
in having these PDF files. a) You get access to out of print books and 
b) You can print them on acid free high quality paper if you want preserve 
them for long time.

This is what I do:

1. From FireFox using alternatiff, I figure out the location.

2. Use wget and download all the pages
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Vishy | 4 Sep 06:55 2008
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Swami Shri Rama Tirtha

Dear Members
 
I am sure many of you must be aware of great advaitist of recent times " Swami Rama Tirtha".  Nevertheless,
providing you this link for those who arent aware:
 
http://www.ramatirtha.org/
 
Also request to go thru the e-book in the site " In the wodds of God realization" the pinacle of Advaitic
thinking. Only first volume of seven volumes are available in the site, request memebers like Senaniji to
let us know as where we can find the other six volumes.
 
Warm Regards
Vishwanth

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Jaldhar H. Vyas | 4 Sep 07:16 2008

New member introduction: Paavani Iyer

I am interested in knowing more about advaita and it's philosophy. I am at
the beginner level. i am also active on orkut's advaita vedanta community.
I am studying shanker bhasya on gita and vivekachudamani. I also read
tattva bodha.
 
Thanks.
I am interested in knowing more about advaita and it's philosophy. I am at
the beginner level. i am also active on orkut's advaita vedanta community.
I am studying shanker bhasya on gita and vivekachudamani. I also read
tattva bodha.
 
Thanks.
Siva Senani Nori | 4 Sep 17:06 2008
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4th Bhagyanagar Veda Sabha, 7 Sept 2008, Sunday at Shankar Mutt, Nallakunta, Hyderabad

The 4th Bhagyanagar Veda Sabha is being held at Shankar Mutt, Nallakunta, Hyderabad on the 7th of September
2008, Sunday. The Sabha starts at 8:00 am and ends at about 6:30 pm, with at least 40 vedic scholars expected
to participate.

The format is the pariksha paddhati, wherein the participating scholars are expected to recite a randomly
chosen 'panasa' (about 50 characters long) over seven rounds. Each round is started by the President
(Brahma Sri Dendukuri Anjaneya Ghanapathi) and Vice-President (Brahma Sri Gundlapalli Visvanatha
Ghanapathi) at a random panasa. The two scholars seated next to them are expected to continue from where
they left and so on till everybody gets a chance.

Usually the first three rounds are from the samhita part of the Krishna Yajurveda followed by the last
ashTaka (Upanishads are not recited after lunch). Post lunch the remaining three ashTakas are recited.
In the previous three sabhas, scholars who have learnt the Rig Veda, Sama Veda and Atharvana Veda also
participated, but the bulk of participation was from the Krishna Yajurveda school. Thereafter around
6:00 pm, the aaSeervachanam and sambhaavana start.

All vedic scholars of the twin cities are welcome to participate, as are bhaktas who want to listen to the
sacred chanting. Many prefer to be present during the aaSeervachana part as they get to receive the
blessings of vedic pandits.

All are welcome. Lunch would be served around 2:00 pm.

Best regards
N. Siva Senani

      

Gmane