Grammar: past participle of "get"

Re: Grammar: past participle of "get"

What about not using any form of "got" and just use Have/Had?

Or am I way off base?

"Yes I have that."
"Yes I've had that."

On 8/1/12, Nat Russo <nat.russo@...> wrote:
> I've been reading too much about grammar lately.  Now I'm completely
> self-conscious about my use of "gotten" for the past participle of "get".
>
> "I have gotten many vaccinations in my life."   <--- my preference.
> "I have got many vaccinations in my life."  <-- British English.
>
> It was actually difficult for me to type the second sentence.  Apparently,
> if you write "gotten", it immediately identifies you as an American writer
> to British ears.  Not necessarily a bad thing, I suppose.
>
> Any comments, Ray?  Elements of Style says "got" is the preferred form of
> the participle.  *I* don't prefer it :)
>
> In fact, I think it could be confusing, in some cases, to stick with "got".
>
> "Yes, I've got that."
> "Yes, I've gotten that."
>
> To me, those sentences say two different things.  The first sentence
> implies possession in the present tense.  The second sentence is more
> concerned about a past event.  Now if the question answered by those
> sentences is "Did you get the letter from the bank?", then the first
> sentence seems like an odd way to answer.
>
> Nat
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RE: Grammar: past participle of "get"

Re: Grammar: past participle of "get"

On 02/08/2012, at 8:35 AM, Mike D <miked116@...> wrote:

> What about not using any form of "got" and just use Have/Had?
> 
> Or am I way off base?
> 
> "Yes I have that."
> "Yes I've had that."
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/1/12, Nat Russo <nat.russo@...> wrote:

have" and "had" are acceptable declensions of "got".

Got is really a hack word, which isn't strictly speaking English (I think) and thus fair to muck around with,
but the have/had is preferable to gotten.

Dan

Re: Selling a script to a writer/publisher

-----Original Message----- 
From: Nat Russo
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 7:31 AM
To: feistfans-l
Subject: Re: Selling a script to a writer/publisher

>I LOVE bad horror movies :)  My wife and I sometimes stay up at night 
>watching the "chilr" channel.  The movies (and often the acting) are so bad 
>we get a kick out of them.  We usually wind up doing a home version of 
>MST3K while watching them :)

You might want to check this book out - 
http://www.amazon.com/Showgirls-Teen-Wolves-Astro-Zombies/dp/B004IK9F7W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343868662&sr=8-1&keywords=Showgirls%2C+Teen+Wolves+and+Astro+Zombies

It's the story of a film critic who decided to find the all time worst film 
ever made by watching one crappy movie per day for an entire year.

Allan 

Re: Selling a script to a writer/publisher

Re: Selling a script to a writer/publisher

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Nat Russo <nat.russo@...> wrote:
> I don't know (yet) if it's the same in the publishing world, but I can speak
> about the software development world:  You have a significant number of
> people who consider themselves "idea guys".  This typically translates to "I
> hate actual work/I'm not competent enough to actually execute what I'm
> imagining/I'm a prima donna" or some such.  I love hearing "I'm more of an
> idea guy" when I'm interviewing job candidates.  Makes my decision that much
> easier :)

Anyone who works in IT and doesn't have more ideas than there is
possibly time to implement isn't actually WORKING in IT.

My boss announced this week that at our next team meeting we'd
prioritize the task list for the next six months. I said, "Only six
months? Better trim my list before I bring it to the meeting." And
that's just the stuff *I* have for my job for maintenance, security,
and improvements to existing processes -- never mind the projects
we'll be working on to help everyone else implement new functionality
to help them with THEIR priorities.

So that sounds very much like Ray's example of having more story ideas
than he has time to write them all. You prioritize based on whatever
is appropriate for your position (what's the most fun to do, what's
easiest to sell, what's more critical to help something else work,
what's going to keep your organization out of the newspapers for
identify theft) and you tackle what you can. More ideas are often in
the way, UNLESS they are ideas that will help you wipe out existing
tasks on your to-do list.

Re: Selling a script to a writer/publisher

-----Original Message----- 
From: Earl Borah
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 8:54 AM
To: feistfans-l
Subject: Re: Selling a script to a writer/publisher

>Anyone who works in IT and doesn't have more ideas than there is
>possibly time to implement isn't actually WORKING in IT.

Depends on what you are doing. I'm pretty much a straight up programmer 
working for geologists. I rarely think up ideas on what to build because I 
don't know what they might find useful.

Instead I try to work out how to do whatever they ask me to do.

Allan

Re: Grammar: past participle of "get"

On 01/08/2012 23:28, Nat Russo wrote:
> I've been reading too much about grammar lately.  Now I'm completely
> self-conscious about my use of "gotten" for the past participle of "get".
> 
> "I have gotten many vaccinations in my life."   <--- my preference.
> "I have got many vaccinations in my life."  <-- British English.

That's interesting.  It was my understanding that for native speakers of
American English there is a subtle difference between 'got' and 'gotten'
and that the two were not strictly interchangeable?

Chris
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