> On Mar 31, 2011, at 11:33 AM, Jason Green wrote:
>
> > I remember Bennett - he was the only kicker I've seen that would run
> > down the field after a punt and make a tackle.
> >
> The first time he did that was in a pre-season game against the Seahawks, and he laid the guy out. No one apparently had told him that punters weren't real players and as soon as they made the kick they were supposed to amble towards their own sideline.
>
> Best, R.E.F.

Heh, thats AFL for you.  If it wasn't for the weight of the pads he'd probably be punting it, running down and catching it himself.
 
Really the core differences between American Football, Rugby and Australian Rules Football is power to endurance and planning to intuition.
 
Australian Rules Football is often known as Aerial Ping Pong.  You're running up and down the field with the ball kicked high all over the place.  If a tackle occurs then it usually means something has gone wrong as generally guys are catching a kick for a mark or just doing more running, kicking and hand passes.  You need great endurance to play the game or you'll be puffed out in no time.  Its intensely about intuition and reactions as there's little time to strategise.  Usually there will only be overarching plans to make a certain player run harder or avoid an area of the field, etc.
 
Rugby sits a little more in the middle, you need to be strong enough to tackle or charge through tackles and also to push through scrums. But the game just keeps on going and going so there's need for endurance but usually there's only a few guys from each side who are tackling, scruming or running hard at any given time so its like running 50 metre dashes then jogging 50 metres before running another 50 metres.  Intuition and reaction is a big part again, but as a scrum sits at rest the others can quickly setup for a strategised play and put planning to work.
 
American Football goes to the extreme of power.  The entire teams are going hard for maybe a minute then resting for a few as they setup the next play, but for that minute their going, they're carrying pads, wrestling with other players, running hard and tackling harder.  But you're getting the rests inbetween and its bursts of power.  The planning goes to the extreme as well with
 
If you tried to get an entire team of Rugby players to play American Football and presumed they had a heap of plays worked out so they weren't simply going to get out played, then the American Football players would still simply work on running over or through them and likely succeed.  If it were an entire team of Australian Rules Football players they'd likely get snapped like tooth-picks.
 
Try to get an entire team of American Football players into Rugby and, presuming they know the rules and plays without a problem, the Rugby players will just wear them out by keeping the ball going non-stop then dance around them with ease in the second half... Australian Rules Football players would get snapped like tooth-picks again ;)
 
Rugby or American Football player in Australian Rules Football... They'd just get sick of watching them run, jump and kick around the place, snap them all like tooth-picks and go get pissed XD
 
To sum it up:
American Football = 100m run
Rugby = 800m run
Australian Rules = Marathon
 
-Wilkinson

> The US footballers were huffing and puffing after a series of plays in AFL, and everyone was laughing their asses off playing Rugby, but after they all put on pads and played 15 minutes of "Gridiron," the AFL/NRL players all conceded it was the nastiest of the three games and they understood why US footballers were giving up part of their life and health to play for it.

Very true. Didn't cover how sturdy or tough you need to be. You get to the top of the power system and, of course, the hits are harder than any other game, despite the pads.  You'll get Aussie Rules players continuing on close to, or in, their 40's but its a lucky American Footballer who makes it to their 30's and I'd imagine that they probably suffer in their general health much more, long after retiring, even if they've never taken a serious injury.  American Footballers most definately need to be built like brick **** houses more than the others to take that constant punishment on their bodies.

> Actually, I love all football. I love the State of Origin, and never quite know if I'm a Cane Toad or a Cockroach, and I love AFL. My rooting (Sorry, Aussies, you know what I mean) interests are first and foremost, the San Diego Chargers (and last year San Diego State University), after that in no particular order is Wolverhampton in soccer, the Brisbane Lions (because I used to barrack for FitzRoy), the St. George Illawarra Dragons, and in the international tests, whoever it is the underdog, though it things are dead even, All Black.
>
> I just love watching all of it.
>
> Best, R.E.F.
>

I've never been interested by American Football much.  I'm bored by it but not because I think its a boring game, I think its just one where you really have to understand the rules, strategies and nuances to appreciate the plays.  With Rugby and Aussie Rules the game keeps moving so we just keep with it as it goes, but with the stoping and starting of American Football you need to analyse and appreciate the plays much more, noting the movements made by the players that succeeded or countered or spot the positioning from the sidelines and take a gander at how its going to play out.  The Rugby plays are generally much shorter and simpler except for the overarching strategy of the entire game.  But generally they've drawn players one way or another and created a gap for a player to spot and exploit.  Easy to see and easy to understand compared to the much more complex and thorough American Football plays.  One day I'll have to look better into it so I can gain some appreciation for watching a game.

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> > I cannot remember Belog's age being mentioned, and Dahun died after Nakor.
> > Demons also grow up fast as we saw with Child.
> > So I think there was time for Belog to be an archivist for Dahun after
> > Nakor's death.
> >
> > /Colin.
> >
>
> p136: "He was required by Child's relentless questions to reach into
> his memory for facts and thoughts *untouched* for years"....Belog
> had been among the first in his guild and possessed more knowledge
> than all but a few among them."
>
> This seems to suggest that as far as demons go, Belog was moderately
> old, (at least for a non-ruling class demon) which would preclude
> his being a reincarnation, as far as I could guess. Just my humble opinion.
> Of course, if time passess differently in the demon realm, that
> opens a whole new ball game.
>
> Dan.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that demons can acquire knowledge/memories from the other demons/lifeforms they consume. So isn't it possible that Nakor was reincarnated as a different demon that Belog consumed, hence the transfer of some memories?

Tim
 
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If I also remember correctly, Macros was transferred into the "Gardener" in the 2nd realm.  So that was an existing being.  I think it had died or something, I'll have to recheck Wrath of a Mad God.  So maybe Belog died of something in seclusion and had Nakor's memories put into him then.
 
The other thing is that we're talking about the Chaos Wars that warped time and Ban-ath who has already cheated time in places.
 
Whatever the case, I get the impression that it was more than just memories.  Even if we believe that the Demon's killing of Miranda took her memories back, it was likely Ban-ath who made sure that more than just her memories went back with him.
 
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NEW:
Checked WoaMG and yep, the "Gardener" died and had Macros' life-energy or memory transferred into him at that point so its possible that Belog and "Child" died somehow but were revived with the life-energy of Nakor and Miranda.
 
In WoaMG it was also suggested by Pug and the witches that Ban-ath had broken significant rules of the universe to get Macros to the 2nd realm and taken one hell of a gamble that could have spelled much more destruction.  You'd think it would be an even bigger deal going all the way down to the 5th realm but, once more, there seems to be some kind of significant link between it and the first realm with regards to summoning and the like.

From: raymond-n5ZIaH6+9ICB+jHODAdFcQ@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Kindle now apparently "English"
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:44:18 -0700
To: feistfans-l-Re1fH9pVRcMibAbXQ5Tkjg@public.gmane.org

Irish Hurling is maybe the maddest sport I've seen.  Bunch of crazy Gales running around drunk on their asses with sticks in hand?  No thank you.

Best, R.E.F.

Well, I guess next is drunken rugby with weapons, skating on ice. I think we call this hockey around here.... ;p