Dustin Curlee | 8 Nov 02:39 2013

Re: "Foreigners"

Mr. Levin,

I greatly appreciate your response. Someone else actually sent me the link and I have already registered.

Have a blessed night!

Dustin...


On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Yigal Levin <Yigal.Levin-hys7hE4VI81mR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org> wrote:

Dear Dustin,

 

First of all, the answer is no. A "ger" is a "sojourner" or "temporary resident" or "resident alien" dependant on the context. "Nokhri" simply means "foreigner". "Goy" is "nation"; "Goyim" are "nations". And while "ger" and "nokhri" can apply to an Israelite who is living among non-Israelites, in the Bible they usually apply to non-Israelites living among Israelites. "Goy" can refer either to the nation of Israel or to another nation. The later Jewish use of "goyim" as "gentiles" (that is, non-Jews as individuals) only developed after the biblical period. The interpretations that you cite below are incorrect.

 

Having said all that, I assume that you don't know that this mailing list is closed, and that b-Hebrew has moved to a web-based format at http://biblicalhumanities.org/bhebrew. Please go there and sign up.

 

Blessings,

 

Yigal Levin

 

 

I am having a discussion with someone with regards to the words "ger," "nokhri," and "goyim." He states that these words apply to a native born Israelite who had left the land, dwelt in a foreign land, and who had returned, thus making them a "foreigner," "sojourner," or "stranger," respectively.

The impact of this being true would mean that in each instance within the Torah, Wisdom literature, and Prophets (minor and major), the use of this word would strictly applies to an Israelite rather than anyone who was a non-Israelite; thus, the Greek counterpart within the New Testament is also referring to an Israelite.

My question is, is this an accurate translation of "ger," "nokhri," and "goyin?"

Thank you,


Dustin Curlee




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Dustin Curlee | 8 Nov 02:15 2013

"Foreigners"

I am having a discussion with someone with regards to the words "ger," "nokhri," and "goyim." He states that these words apply to a native born Israelite who had left the land, dwelt in a foreign land, and who had returned, thus making them a "foreigner," "sojourner," or "stranger," respectively.

The impact of this being true would mean that in each instance within the Torah, Wisdom literature, and Prophets (minor and major), the use of this word would strictly applies to an Israelite rather than anyone who was a non-Israelite; thus, the Greek counterpart within the New Testament is also referring to an Israelite.

My question is, is this an accurate translation of "ger," "nokhri," and "goyin?"

Thank you,

Dustin Curlee

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Kirk Lowery | 27 Oct 23:26 2013

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George Athas | 20 Oct 07:23 2013
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Re: the list

1. Use your browser and navigate to: http://biblicalhumanities.org/bhebrew/
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From: Tiago Thorlby <ttscotvik-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
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Dear Friends:

It seems my name isn´t yet on the list.
Can that be remedied, please?
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Tiago Thorlby | 20 Oct 01:09 2013
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the list

Dear Friends:

It seems my name isn´t yet on the list.
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Kirk Lowery | 5 Oct 15:34 2013

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Kirk Lowery | 2 Oct 14:32 2013

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Kirk Lowery | 2 Oct 14:24 2013

Registering for the new B-Hebrew Forum

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Oun Kwon | 2 Oct 05:08 2013
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A simple question before this list is closed up - half-shekel

The value of mina converted drachma shows up on google search (not
much there, except wiki) is to be 100 drachmas (drachmae?).

Unfortunately, that contradicts what the Scripture says.

In Mt 17:24 the temple-tax is called didrachma. If it is equivalent to
a half-shekel,
1 mina should be 200 drachmas.

Here is my elementary arithmetic.

1 mina = 200 drachmas = 50 shekels. Then 1 shekel = 4 drachmas; 1/2
shekel = 2 drachmas

If 1 mina =100 drachmas, then 1 shekel =  2 drachmas; 1/2 shekel = 1 drachma.

Even with my aging brain, I think something is wrong when someone
comes up some value. It is probably that one was quoting from someone
else who quoted from some other, and so on.

Thank you for your thought.

Oun Kwon.

I hope this question is within b-Hebrew list.
Hedrick Gary | 2 Oct 04:49 2013

No confirmation key via email

I've been waiting for that confirmation key to arrive by email, but nothing yet.

How long does it take?

Gary Hedrick
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Olivier Randrianjaka | 30 Sep 18:40 2013
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Did not get an activation email

Hello,
I have subscribed to the new b hebrew forum but did no get any activation email. What should I do?

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