Erik Moeller | 29 Apr 08:58
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Wikinews: New State of the Wiki

I've written a new "State of the Wiki" report on the progress of
Wikinews:

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Eloquence/State_of_the_Wiki

Meanwhile, freelance writer Matthew Yeomans has also written a detailed
article about the project. He travelled Europe and the US to get direct
interviews with Wikinewsies. His research was funded, but the
publication he worked for killed the story in the last minute. It's now
online on his blog at:

http://citizenskane.blogspot.com/

A pretty good read.

All best,

Erik

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Erik Moeller | 5 Mar 04:02
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Wikinews status report

I have written a new status report for the Wikinews project. You can
read it at
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Eloquence/State_of_the_Wiki

All best,

Erik Möller

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Erik Moeller | 6 Feb 01:25
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Wikinews and Blogs chat log

The "Wikinews and Blogs" chat was a big success with plenty of varied
participants from the blog and wiki worlds. Lots of interesting ideas
were exchanged, including Wikinews support for blogging tools like Ecto,
licensing issues, RSS, and a potential shared space for citizen
journalists from different projects. If you missed it, you can read the
log of the discussion here: 

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews_Chat/2005/02/05/log 

Background info: 

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews_Chat 

Regards, 

Erik 

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Erik Moeller | 28 Jan 23:11
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Wikinews and Blogs: Open Chat, February 5, 22:00 UTC

(We're sending this to a few bloggers directly - apologies if you
receive it twice.)

List,

in December 2004, the Wikimedia Foundation, which operates the Wikipedia
encyclopedia, launched the Wikinews project, a beta foray into citizen
journalism. Anyone is invited to contribute articles to Wikinews, or to
improve existing ones. Unlike stories on activist websites like
Indymedia, Wikinews articles have to be written from a neutral point of
view, and factual claims must be sourced. The English edition can be
found at:

http://en.wikinews.org/

We are inviting notable bloggers to participate in an online chat on
citizen journalism and the interaction between bloggers and the Wikinews
project. There will be an introduction to the Wikinews project and an
open discussion with lots of room for questions. We will also try to
highlight ways in which bloggers can get content from Wikinews, as well
as contribute content. The event will take place on Internet Relay Chat.
You can find out more about IRC here:

http://www.mirc.co.uk/irc.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat

The "Wikinews and Blogs" chat will take place on Saturday, February 5,
2005, 22:00 UTC in the #wikinews channel on irc.freenode.net. You can
learn more about the event at

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Erik Moeller | 3 Dec 22:46
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Wikinews Launched

The Wikinews project has now been officially launched in English and
German:
http://en.wikinews.org/
http://de.wikinews.org/

Similar to Wikipedia, Wikinews allows anyone to participate in the
creation of news articles as long as they follow a strict neutrality
policy. Original reporting is explicitly encouraged, bringing this
project into the highly interesting realm of citizen media and p2p
journalism.

For background, see

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Thinktank

- and my brand-spanking new article "Wikinews and the Growing Wikimedia
Empire", which also describes other recent developments:

http://www.infoanarchy.org/story/2004/12/3/213547/371

As the lead instigator of the Wikinews project, I'll be happy to answer
any questions you may have.

Regards,

Erik

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Man Drake | 7 Sep 07:40
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New Project Announcement: Otto

Otto is a platform that will:

* Leverage the visibility of high-profile sites of the world wide
web, allowing counter-commentary that will be as visible as the
original content.
* Recognize content and provide the same commentary, regardless of
the location where it is republished.
* Evince surreptitious changes made to content.
* Allow for pseudonymous comments.
* Allow for amassing of reputation.
* Have no central authority or server.

Otto is written in Java and driven off of a JDBC backend.  The first
two points of the above are for the most part complete, and the p2p
networking has rudimentary messaging so far.

I'm writing to this list for several reasons:
1) I'm looking for some teammembers for this project with skills with
the following technologies:
Java, HTTP, HTML, XMLHTTP, p2p networking, crypto (bouncycastle API).
 Eventually, the project will hopefully encompass technologies such
as advanced routing and digital currencies.

2) I haven't yet decided on a license for the software (leaning
towards GPL or LGPL) so any expert advice is gratefully accepted.

3) I need to find a home for development and I'm wondering if anyone
has suggestions.  I'm thinking perhaps sourceforge or setting up my
own server someplace.  Any opinions on sourceforge or tips on hosting
are appreciated.
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Joe Lombardo | 12 Aug 16:15
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Re: P2PJ Digest, Vol 2, Issue 6

SS, Thanks for the kick-start!

I had a slightly different definition in mind for peer-to-peer journalism. 

Peer-to-peer, as implemented by file-sharing applications like Napster
is a platform that enables sharing of content and resources.  In
Napster's case, the content was primarily music and the resources
where primarily storage and bandwidth.

So to me the concept of peer-to-peer journalism is about creating a
platform for the sharing of news (our content) and resources.  Unlike
music, news, doesn't have to consume a lot of bandwidth or storage. 
However, it does require a lot of thought and analysis.  So in my
mind, peer-to-peer journalism is about platforms for sharing and
authoring news with a large audience.

Are my thoughts significantly different from the others on this list?

I'd also like to concur with your point regarding the impact of money
and greed on the ideals of peer-to-peer journalism. By definition,
P2Pj has a "low barrier to entry", to borrow a business phrase.  This
means that anyone with the will and resources ($$) can saturate the
p2pj space with their message.  Perhaps this is the issue that we
should discuss and seek resolution for on the P2Pj list.

Cheers,
- Joe

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:01:46 GMT, p2pj-request <at> infoanarchy.org
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Joe Lombardo | 11 Aug 02:52
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Re: P2PJ Digest, Vol 2, Issue 4

I'm sort of undecided.  I haven't unsubscribed, so that means I am
still holding out hope for interesting dialog.  Maybe others are as
well.

It might be worthwhile to send a refresher as to the goals of this
list and try to seed some discussion that way.

Final thought:  Anyone that is no longer interested can always
unsubscribe, so unless it is costing you time and money that you wish
to save, why not leave it running?

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brush | 10 Aug 21:40

Re: Should this list be shut down?


no need for zombie lists, certainly.

i'll check out the wiki, but if this list is to be decommissioned may i
ask quickly: what other resources do folk know of that emphasize new
modes of decentralized organization of and access to information, opinion,
and analysis?  i'm thinking here especially of new and much more
intuitive graphical user interfaces for representing and navigating, as
well as archiving and analyzing, democratic expression.

any ideas?

.b

On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 09:03:50PM +0200, Erik Moeller wrote:
> First, apologies for the couple of email viruses that got through. My
> email address is unfortunately in quite a few people's address books,
> and viruses pick up on those to send themselves under fake names.
> Because the email address is the only authenticating feature for most
> mailing lists, faking the right address is enough to get spam sent to
> the list without moderation. Anyone who knows a way to deal with this
> problem under mailman (perhaps a real name match requirement?), please
> let me know.
> 
> Second, I'm not sure keeping this list running is necessary - most of
> the people on it seem to have lost interest in discussing matters of
> peer-to-peer journalism. I don't want it to end up as a zombie list that
> is used for nothing but transporting the occasional virus or spam. So
> I'd like to hear from you if we should keep this list running "just in
> case" ; if I don't hear anything I'll presume there's no real interest. 
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Erik Moeller | 9 Aug 21:03
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Should this list be shut down?

First, apologies for the couple of email viruses that got through. My
email address is unfortunately in quite a few people's address books,
and viruses pick up on those to send themselves under fake names.
Because the email address is the only authenticating feature for most
mailing lists, faking the right address is enough to get spam sent to
the list without moderation. Anyone who knows a way to deal with this
problem under mailman (perhaps a real name match requirement?), please
let me know.

Second, I'm not sure keeping this list running is necessary - most of
the people on it seem to have lost interest in discussing matters of
peer-to-peer journalism. I don't want it to end up as a zombie list that
is used for nothing but transporting the occasional virus or spam. So
I'd like to hear from you if we should keep this list running "just in
case" ; if I don't hear anything I'll presume there's no real interest. 
FWIW, the infoAnarchy wiki -
http://www.infoanarchy.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Homepage - is faring a lot
better and turning into quite a useful resource on this and other
subjects. We'll soon upgrade it to MediaWiki, which should help in
dealing with the wiki-spam issue and allow for more structured
discussion.

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John Lagettie | 19 May 02:46
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alex burns re john lagettie

Hi Alex,

John Lagettie is my name and I am from Brisbane myself.... I was emailed the other day concerning a book on P2P etc.

We are about to release a p2p application with a significant difference and in fact I use some of the students at QUT to help with the project....

Can we arrange to meet over coffee at a time of your convenience.

Regards,

John Lagettie


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