Alan Sondheim | 25 Aug 19:46 2004

<nettime> nn !nnozentz

nn !nnozentz

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Johnn! Uh!zke!    Trad!z!onl    .  .
Dok MkKenna    Duel!zt    .  .
Bonn!e Oakle!     Lad!ez Trad!z!onl    .  .
phalze!m!rrevokable tz!tn!ztov, pavel !nnumrable, ah uel nou lednarova,
jezuz gymnez + dze bru!tz + outnn juev, roman from uh!khaev +
v!et!n + outnn ztonteztzt + e ! v!enoz puz + uhoze dze odd 01 out,
"ge!n trutht!n + outnn!n + out tapatumo" ! la!ztymaz - ! ne-kz + +
+ + outnwhreja zne-kz + + outnrt!n + outnng ztryp vezttorz-
+ outna v!enuol!wel nou zne-kz + + outnrt!n + outnng + e
outnwel nou !uola9ne-kz + + outnn!n + out meno ztonteztzte,
out-gunn!ng yglaz!ated + outnngumaz tampa ztult ztlaz!v!wel nowz!kal!
bru!zed onee yra zne-kz + + outnrt!n + outnnguoze ztonteztzoutze,
outnrt!n + outnngoze plotm + uhoze dze odd 01 oute dzezturta men!!n
bod! demonztru juzt!v!kaz!onz 9nd!v!dul !uola9ne-kz + + outnn men +
+ outn !rrevokable nwhreja! vrt!n + outnnt!n + outn p!rrevokablev-
!t kannot hear dze tzound ov dze kamra per!ng from above
mazZakre ov dze !nnozentz
dze !nnozentz tzurv!ve + r not mazZakred \n dze! have a good t!me +
pla! !n dze uatr \n !nnozentz meazure !n goodw!l + k9ndnezZ \n dze!m/!


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porculus | 25 Aug 14:41 2004

Re: <nettime> review of F9/11

> Like most people who have seen Michael Moore's latest film I am impressed
> with the amazing skill with which he is able to construct a kind of 
> vernacular argument out of fragments of film. Moore's unique film style is 
> better known in the USA than outside that country and is known there as the
> 'collage-essay'.

his vernacular 'character' itself find great echo, a kind of good big guy
who draw an acceptable pittoresque american, i say pittoresque in good way
as i dont know a frenchy josé bové whom he shake hand for instance..i dont
care exactly of josé bové's politic (there is so much to say) but about
pittoresque he is ok, as the small moustachu & loudmonth to camera..what is
interresting is the non global image of a big american guy who could sit
near a chenese for saying 'hey i am american, my panz is too big & my cap is
too small i have problem to not scratch my ball in public & you ? there is
the -very- political good job. a kind of john wayne postmodern one, local to
global that touch the

> Why does Moore insist that support for the war is not the same thing as
> opposing the troops themselves?

cause he is american. since ww1 for instance every european try too believe
that such butchery was made possible only by governement that tamed the
people for was impossible for pacifist for instance people went to
battle with desir to fight..even in trying to white lie & building some
'humanitarian legend' as stanley kubrick did in his so good early moviez. 
but hey every european -know- that people did war -also- with some consent, 
& without consent there would be no war. there is the so flat secret

> Most people I know opposed the fact that Iraq was being invaded and had 
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Dan S. Wang | 26 Aug 10:44 2004

Re: <nettime> influences

> I am interested in how people on this list have their
> activism influenced by intellectuals such as Michael
> Hardt, Antonio Negri and Slavoj Zizek?

I read Empire in a rush about a year ago in preparation for a paper I was
writing. I found myself not wanting it to end. I can't really say it changed
my approach to activism. Rather, the ideas and analysis contained in that
book mostly reinforced my existing outlook on activism: ie that concerning
oneself with a number of different issues (but often times addressing them
through the medium of a very specific and particular campaign), being
comfortable with a variety of tactics, and taking both long and short term
perspectives into account, is not a bad thing at all. That's the way most
activists I know work anyway, at least the ones who don't burn out. Some of
them seem to fight the tendency, so I've been recommending the book to
activists because it articulates so well the strengths of multi-centric
democratic movements. People influenced by contemporary anarchism,
especially it seems, find this book affirming. Not that there is a lot of
prescriptive theory; sometimes it just feels good to be told in an
intellectually authoritative language that we are much more powerful and
effective than we think.

You could say I'm a believer. I think the book actually lived up to the

BUT...I also promised myself that the next time Hardt and Negri were
mentioned on this list I would voice this little joint that's been bugging

On p 207 in the Counter-empire intermezzo where they're talking about the
International Workers of the World as a model of a continually moving,
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Richard Barbrook | 26 Aug 15:18 2004


Mute, no. 28, 13/7/04 [see]


The Future Is What It Used To Be

At the beginning of the 21st century, the dream
of artificial intelligence is deeply embedded
within the modern imagination. We have grown up
with images of loyal robot buddies like Data in
Star Trek TNG and of pitiless machine monsters
like the cyborg in The Terminator. These science
fiction fantasies are encouraged by confident
predictions from prominent computer scientists.
Continual improvements in hardware and software
must eventually lead to the Singularity: the
creation of artificial intelligences more
powerful than the human mind. Despite its
cultural prominence, the meme of sentient
machines is vulnerable to theoretical exorcism.
Far from being a free-floating signifier, the
dream of artificial intelligence is deeply rooted
in time and space. Analysing the history of this
prophecy is the precondition for understanding
its contemporary manifestations. With this
motivation in mind, let's go back to the second
decade of the Cold War when the world's biggest
computer company put on a show about the wonders
of thinking machines in the financial capital of
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Michael H Goldhaber | 26 Aug 19:30 2004

<nettime> wobblies

I'm always hearing people come up with new ways to say "www" ; a number of
European languages don't really use the letter; small children have
trouble with it. Conclusion: any number of people could have come up with
this slightly jocular and familiar reference to the otherwise overly
formal (and redundant)  "International Workers of the World."

As to Hardt and Negri, I plowed through Empire and thought, though it 
contains interesting nuggets here and there, that on the whole it is a 
cloud of ill-justified pontificating.



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Brian Holmes | 26 Aug 20:17 2004

<nettime> 3 Proposals for a Real Democracy

[This text was written for the "Sourcebook" of the upcoming Werkleitz
program on Common Property ( It's a continuation of the
excellent polemic launched by Rasmus Fleischer against flat-rate proposals
designed to "compensate" copyright holders for file sharing (see nettime,
13/7/04, and below). Is a flatrate better than Digital Rights Management
as it's beginning to emerge? No doubt, but it isn't a reason to stop
thinking about a world that you'd really like to live in. - BH]


Information-Sharing to a Different Tune
by Brian Holmes

Since their invention a few years ago, p2p file-sharing networks for the
free exchange of music have been the gadfly of consumer capitalism.
Puncturing the profits of the recording industry, they have brought
unlimited pop to teenagers' lives, and an ironic smile to the lips of
those Internet purists who always scorned the profit-seeking illusions of
the "new economy." For the politically minded - and particularly the older
set, who still equate guitars with protest movements - this massive
transgression of copyright law could make it seem like a long-awaited
breath of cultural revolt was in the air. But there was just one problem:
who would pay the piper? How would the artists (and, some added, the
recording companies) survive in a world of free music? Recently, quite a
narrow range of solutions have been proposed: either pay-per-song download
sites, in a centralizing scheme favored by the music industry; or a
"flatrate" tax on Internet users, preserving file-sharing by prov iding a
source of monetary compensation to be distributed among the copyright
holders. One of the flatrate proposals, specifically addressed to the EU's
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Heiko Recktenwald | 26 Aug 12:29 2004

<nettime> Microsoft, Apples iPod etc...

Speaking about Microsoft lack of understanding of other culture that their
own, Apple seems to have some "corporate culture" as well. Yesterday I
took an Apple iPod leaflet in the Gravis shop and there on the last page,
I find the sentense: "Raubkopien sind illegal!". Something like "piracy is
illegal". There was a lot of dicussion about the word "pirace" at WIPO,
see Jamie Love at, but it is simply not true. An extreme case
is Canadas , but we have
"fair use" also in the USA, where just some forms of "piracy" are illegal,
not copying CDs amongst friends. Copying your friends CDs onto your iPod
is LEGAL, period!


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<nettime> What causes Terrorism [2x]

Table of Contents:

   Re: <nettime> Re: nettime What Causes Terrorism?                                
     John <3v1l.hax0r@...>                                                     

   Re: <nettime> Re: nettime What Causes Terrorism?                                
     Michael H Goldhaber <mgoldh@...>                                           


Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:40:58 -0700
From: John <3v1l.hax0r@...>
Subject: Re: <nettime> Re: nettime What Causes Terrorism?

I think it is clear there are two questions:

1. Why is the tactic of terrorism used?
2. Why are some Muslim groups resorting to Terrorism?

I was writing specifically about #1 and generally about #2.  I would
very much like to be illuminated about #2.  I touched on it to support
my assertions about #1.

I only mention Mossad in the context of #1.  Israel has been extremely
effective at terrorizing the terrorists, and I think this environment
necessitated the distributed nature of The Base.  That was my only
point, I am not some Zionist kook.

Any care to comment on the observation that Wahhabism seems to have
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ericbj | 27 Aug 00:27 2004

<nettime> Dealing with state terrorism

Since terrorism seems to be a major topic at the moment
[What causes terrorism?], perhaps one may be permitted
to look at the subject from a different angle :  How to
remove an entrenched terrorist regime?  -- the one
particularly in mind being the Rangoon military junta.

To open the issue, here is a recent newslist posting,
followed by my response to it.  There has not been a lot
of feedback from the Burma newslists, so maybe there
will be a more animated response here ?


What do we mean by human rights ?

In seeking strategic alliances, must one
unreservedly approve in all matters the
position of one's allies ?

Can pressure be brought to bear on a terrorist
regime without employing either sanctions or
military force ?

Is 19th Century laissez-faire capitalism the
answer to 21st-Century Burma's problems ?

These are some of the questions raised by the
following article, to which I endeavour to
give the beginnings of a response.  
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geert | 27 Aug 11:03 2004

<nettime> customized spam

(bit by bit spam is getting more sophisticated... /geert)

From: Attorney Blank <attorblank@...>
To: geert@...
Subject: ASAP
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:24:37 -0700

Attn: Geert Lovink,

It is my pleasure contacting you now, as I have longed to get in touch
with anybody who knew Mr. David Lovink,a national of your country. I am
Barr. Blanc Samson., A Barrister at law and the personal attorney to Mr.
David Lovink ,who died along with his family on the 01 FEB 1997 in a plane
crash, the aircraft name is Hawker Siddeley HS-748-353 Srs.2A.This crash
happened in Tambacounda (Senegal) in Africa, and the registration number
of the aircraft is 6AV-AEO.

My client had deposited about Twenty one Million, US.Dollars (21Million US
Dollars) with a fund deposit company(Capital International Bank while working with a tourism development centre
in west Africa as the head. Since then, there had not been any trace of
claim from any person as the fund remains dormant in his account with this
bank. Although, I kept this information secret whitin my jurisdiction to
enab le me put claims and transfer the said amount through a trustworthy
person overseas whom I shall present to the bank as the bonafide
next-of-kin to the deceased for a profittable and successful project.

Ever since I have been trying to locate the next of kin or any of the
relatives to come forward and make this claim., but to no avail.I have
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