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Aleksandra Tomasik | 3 Jul 21:49 2009
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Re: beyondhom Re: repetitions and dose in chronic diseases



Susan- i have real problems acknowledging that after 10 years of treatment you still have these diseases
well, conventional medicine is about management, so ok, but homeopathy? Hahn. was talking about FAST cure- in acute diseases it is fast (i had my 5 min miracles!) but it is so "wobbly" in chronis diseases!
 


--- On Wed, 4/29/09, healthinfo6 <healthyinfo6 <at> aol.com> wrote:

From: healthinfo6 <healthyinfo6 <at> aol.com>
Subject: beyondhom Re: repetitions and dose in chronic diseases
To: beyondhomeopathy <at> yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 5:34 PM

Sounds like a great idea! Having two inherited miasms, bipolar and diabetes type 2, both active since childhood, along with 10 years of classical homeopathic treatment and current classical-like treatment with Dr. Ramakrishnan plus use of various allopathic drugs to remain alive, I am uniquely qualified to provide actual patient info. I can relate all the good and not so good on both homeopathy and allopathy for these two conditions.

As an MD, I know you are more sympathetic to the patient's well being vs. adherence to any strict classical homeopathic dogma.

Best regards,

Susan

--- In b eyondhomeopathy <at> yahoogroups. com, "suriya56" <Dr.Suriya <at> . ..> wrote:
>
> Dear All
>
> Can we have a discussion on the dosing and repitition in chronic diseases .
>
> I am talking about diseases like Diabetes Mellitus and Hypertension where the blood sugar and blood pressure has to be kept as normal as possible , otherwise could endanger life.
>
> Also in diseases like SLE where one has to treat through allopathic drugs .
>
> regards
>
> Suriya
>


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Irene de Villiers | 3 Jul 23:24 2009
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Re: beyondhom Re: repetitions and dose in chronic diseases



>
> --- In beyondhomeopathy <at> yahoogroups. com, "suriya56"
> <Dr.Suriya <at> . ..> wrote:
> >
> > Dear All
> >
> > Can we have a discussion on the dosing and repitition in chronic
> diseases .
> >
> > I am talking about diseases like Diabetes Mellitus and
> Hypertension where the blood sugar and blood pressure has to be
> kept as normal as possible , otherwise could endanger life.
> > Also in diseases like SLE where one has to treat through
> allopathic drugs .

Dear Suriya,

I am bad with acronyms so will not touch SLE, but I do have
experience in both the diabetes and hypertension, in cats and in myself.

Diabetes:
For the diabetes, I do use one allopathic thing, as needed, but no
others and that one thing is fast-acting Novolog insulin.
I use it minimally. It is work to do the rest by diet and exercise (5
or 10 mins light or moderate exercise after eating any
carbohydrates), but it is the only healthy option to use in my view,
while arranging for the homeopathy to do its job, and which may take
quite long.

It is not hard to control type 2 diabetes mostly if not wholly with
high protein low/no starch diet, extra virgin olive oil (=EVO) and
fish oil fats, and after-fruit-carb exercise. The starting place book
(by an allopathic diabetes specialist as it happens) to explain how
is Dr Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. He explains (correctly not like
most allopaths) what is happening and how to counter it, how to
protect kidneys and undo damage with HIGH protein meat/fish/egg diet,
and how to use diet (and insulin if needed) to keep blood sugar below
110 at ALL times - as above that there is damage.

Anything allopathic other than insulin in small amounts, is going to
make thins worse in the long run, not better, so I will not use them.
In cats the diabetes is also reversible with diet and low amounts of
insulin tapered to zero insulin needed as the pancreas heals due to
low blood sugar being maintained. All the diabetic cat clients I have
had are no longer on insulin. (All cats who get diabetes need insulin
as they deposit Amyloid in the pancreas destroying the beta cells).
Homeopathy can restore function at least enough to go off insulin in
cats but they need to eat a moderate carb diet after that or it will
revert.

As for me, I can not remove the maintaining cause (damage hormones
from tumors) - not yet at least - but I did get off insulin for a few
years in this illness now in its 11th year. (Survival is supposed to
be 2 to 5 yrs so homeopathy IS helping a lot). I am now back on
insulin but hopefully the homeopathy will also catch up with that
soon to let me reverse it, and more permanently.

Supplements: Vit C, alpha lipoic acid and Vit E. (They work together)

However - bottom line is there is no requirement even with a severe
maintaining cause as I have, to use allopathic drugs in type 2
diabetes - other than a copy of the body's own insulin in SMALL
amount (like 4 units at a time max.).
An anti-inflammatory diet (See Dr Perricone's books), plus Dr
Bernstein's principles of glucose of 110 or below (divide by 18 for
Europe) , and exercise after good fruit (no other starch/sugar) is
all that is needed in most cases, and a little insulin will do the
rest in the serious cases.

Hypertention - my no-drug approach:
Here again I do not believe it is beneficial to use allopathic
drugs, either blood pressure ones or lipid ones and I use neither. .
Same tumors in my case cause hypertension.... There are many other
things to use while working to get the homeopathy reversal to full
health. Some of those are:
Vit E 1000 IU A DAY without fail
Fish oil 6 caps a day
Co-Q-10 is good but not in my budget.
EVO at all meals
Hawthorn berry herb caps 2 per day to start - working p to 8 per day
in my case - then tapering off after 6 months after the heart healed.
Plenty of relaxation protocols (yoga, tai chi, Qi gong, meditation,
music, etc, etc)
Appropriate exercise.
Avoidance of stress. (Read that one twenty times please, or however
many times it takes to stop saying "I can't" and figure out how to DO
that.)
I do not eat a high fat meal within 6 hrs of a prior high fat meal.
(In women this can trigger arterial spasm which is the cause of a
woman's heart attack, unlike in men, where spasm is not the issue and
direct blockage is more relevant.)
Again - the anti-inflammatory diet
Bio-feedback and breathing exercises to lower pressure.
Always on the lookout for other healthy options.
I am prone to heart attacks with this illness so I carry Arnica 1M
with me, (and potassium as I go hypokalemic easily and suddenly) as
the Arn 1M stops a heart attack.
Have cats. They lower blood pressure just by stroking them, and mine
alert me to impending heart attack.
Use antioxidants as much as possible (If a food lacks them, skip it).
Yoga. (Yes I REPEATED THIS ONE. One hour of relaxation yoga brings it
down as much as 20 points I find. I measures. Good to do before
allopath visit to avoid arguments about drugs.)

Namaste,
Irene
--
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
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Shannon & Bob Nelson | 4 Jul 00:55 2009
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Re: beyondhom Re: repetitions and dose in chronic diseases

Wow, what a great protocol!
Another thought that might or might not be useful; you say CoQ10 good 
but not in budget, and Vit E, and I think C?  All of those are things 
that I have in the past needed in high amounts, but when I took 
Ashwagandha, 2 tabs / day, I didn't need any of them, *and* it started 
other repair work on veins etc.--slow, but steady.  I don't know if 
it's indicated or not-indicated specifically for diabetes, but the 
vitamins mentioned made me think of it.  :-)
Shannon

On Jul 3, 2009, at 4:24 PM, Irene de Villiers wrote:
> >
>  > --- In beyondhomeopathy <at>  yahoogroups. com, "suriya56"
>  > <Dr.Suriya <at> . ..> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > Dear All
>  > >
>  > > Can we have a discussion on the dosing and repitition in chronic
>  > diseases .
>  > >
>  > > I am talking about diseases like Diabetes Mellitus and
>  > Hypertension where the blood sugar and blood pressure has to be
>  > kept as normal as possible , otherwise could endanger life.
>  > > Also in diseases like SLE where one has to treat through
>  > allopathic drugs .
>
>  Dear Suriya,
>
>  I am bad with acronyms so will not touch SLE, but I do have
>  experience in both the diabetes and hypertension, in cats and in 
> myself.
>
>  Diabetes:
>  For the diabetes, I do use one allopathic thing, as needed, but no
>  others and that one thing is fast-acting Novolog insulin.
>  I use it minimally. It is work to do the rest by diet and exercise (5
>  or 10 mins light or moderate exercise after eating any
>  carbohydrates), but it is the only healthy option to use in my view,
>  while arranging for the homeopathy to do its job, and which may take
>  quite long.
>
>  It is not hard to control type 2 diabetes mostly if not wholly with
>  high protein low/no starch diet, extra virgin olive oil (=EVO) and
>  fish oil fats, and after-fruit-carb exercise. The starting place book
>  (by an allopathic diabetes specialist as it happens) to explain how
>  is Dr Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. He explains (correctly not like
>  most allopaths) what is happening and how to counter it, how to
>  protect kidneys and undo damage with HIGH protein meat/fish/egg diet,
>  and how to use diet (and insulin if needed) to keep blood sugar below
>  110 at ALL times - as above that there is damage.
>
>  Anything allopathic other than insulin in small amounts, is going to
>  make thins worse in the long run, not better, so I will not use them.
>  In cats the diabetes is also reversible with diet and low amounts of
>  insulin tapered to zero insulin needed as the pancreas heals due to
>  low blood sugar being maintained. All the diabetic cat clients I have
>  had are no longer on insulin. (All cats who get diabetes need insulin
>  as they deposit Amyloid in the pancreas destroying the beta cells).
>  Homeopathy can restore function at least enough to go off insulin in
>  cats but they need to eat a moderate carb diet after that or it will
>  revert.
>
>  As for me, I can not remove the maintaining cause (damage hormones
>  from tumors) - not yet at least - but I did get off insulin for a few
>  years in this illness now in its 11th year. (Survival is supposed to
>  be 2 to 5 yrs so homeopathy IS helping a lot). I am now back on
>  insulin but hopefully the homeopathy will also catch up with that
>  soon to let me reverse it, and more permanently.
>
>  Supplements: Vit C, alpha lipoic acid and Vit E. (They work together)
>
>  However - bottom line is there is no requirement even with a severe
>  maintaining cause as I have, to use allopathic drugs in type 2
>  diabetes - other than a copy of the body's own insulin in SMALL
>  amount (like 4 units at a time max.).
>  An anti-inflammatory diet (See Dr Perricone's books), plus Dr
>  Bernstein's principles of glucose of 110 or below (divide by 18 for
>  Europe) , and exercise after good fruit (no other starch/sugar) is
>  all that is needed in most cases, and a little insulin will do the
>  rest in the serious cases.
>
>  Hypertention - my no-drug approach:
>  Here again I do not believe it is beneficial to use allopathic
>  drugs, either blood pressure ones or lipid ones and I use neither. .
>  Same tumors in my case cause hypertension.... There are many other
>  things to use while working to get the homeopathy reversal to full
>  health. Some of those are:
>  Vit E 1000 IU A DAY without fail
>  Fish oil 6 caps a day
>  Co-Q-10 is good but not in my budget.
>  EVO at all meals
>  Hawthorn berry herb caps 2 per day to start - working p to 8 per day
>  in my case - then tapering off after 6 months after the heart healed.
>  Plenty of relaxation protocols (yoga, tai chi, Qi gong, meditation,
>  music, etc, etc)
>  Appropriate exercise.
>  Avoidance of stress. (Read that one twenty times please, or however
>  many times it takes to stop saying "I can't" and figure out how to DO
>  that.)
>  I do not eat a high fat meal within 6 hrs of a prior high fat meal.
>  (In women this can trigger arterial spasm which is the cause of a
>  woman's heart attack, unlike in men, where spasm is not the issue and
>  direct blockage is more relevant.)
>  Again - the anti-inflammatory diet
>  Bio-feedback and breathing exercises to lower pressure.
>  Always on the lookout for other healthy options.
>  I am prone to heart attacks with this illness so I carry Arnica 1M
>  with me, (and potassium as I go hypokalemic easily and suddenly) as
>  the Arn 1M stops a heart attack.
>  Have cats. They lower blood pressure just by stroking them, and mine
>  alert me to impending heart attack.
>  Use antioxidants as much as possible (If a food lacks them, skip it).
>  Yoga. (Yes I REPEATED THIS ONE. One hour of relaxation yoga brings it
>  down as much as 20 points I find. I measures. Good to do before
>  allopath visit to avoid arguments about drugs.)
>
>  Namaste,
>  Irene
>  --
>  Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
>  P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
>  www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
>  "Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
>
> 
Irene de Villiers | 4 Jul 01:55 2009
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On Jul 3, 2009, at 3:55 PM, Shannon & Bob Nelson wrote:

> Wow, what a great protocol!
> Another thought that might or might not be useful; you say CoQ10
> good but not in budget, and Vit E, and I think C? All of those are
> things that I have in the past needed in high amounts, but when I
> took Ashwagandha, 2 tabs / day, I didn't need any of them, *and* it
> started other repair work on veins etc.--slow, but steady. I don't
> know if it's indicated or not-indicated specifically for diabetes,
> but the vitamins mentioned made me think of it. :-)

Thanks for this idea Shannon - I'll look into it, my off the cuff
knowledge of herbs is shockingly small, but I have several references
and will look up Ashwagandha. (I know the difference if I skip either
the fish oil or the E even for just 2 days.)

Namaste,
Irene

--
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

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Sati | 4 Jul 04:39 2009
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Namaste Irene,
I truly appreciate hearing about your regimen as I also feel that allo meds are not beneficial and should be avoided and alternatives used whenever possible and when safe.  However, I am not aware of any alternative to anti-clotting medication after a heart attack when a stent has been placed after angioplasty, are you?
 
Irene also wrote:
"Hawthorn berry herb caps 2 per day to start - working p to 8 per day
in my case - then tapering off after 6 months after the heart healed."
 
Has anyone ever heard of Hawthorn berry actually contributing to a heart attack by creating a situation wherein the plaque is thinned too quickly in the area of an infection within an artery?
 
Irene also said:
There are many other things to use while working to get the homeopathy reversal to full
health. Some of those are:
Vit E 1000 IU A DAY without fail
Fish oil 6 caps a day
Co-Q-10 is good but not in my budget.
EVO at all meals
 
Thanks for this reminder Irene!  I was doing all of the above for many years but the downturn in the economy has made it all but impossible to continue with supplements, although I do use EVO and flax oil.  I used Ashwagandha for awhile, didn't notice anything however. 
 
Question for Shannon, how did you notice that it "started other repair work on veins"?
 
Irene also suggested:
"Plenty of relaxation protocols (yoga, tai chi, Qi gong, meditation, music, etc, etc). Appropriate exercise.
Avoidance of stress. (Read that one twenty times please, or however many times it takes to stop saying "I can't" and figure out how to DO that.)"
 
YES!  I cannot agree enough about "avoidance of stress" and the benefits of meditation, yoga, etc.  However, do you agree that there are times when stress simply cannot be avoided?  I guess then it's just a roll of the die (so to speak), especially when one is doing all one can do.

IRENE continued:
"I do not eat a high fat meal within 6 hrs of a prior high fat meal.
(In women this can trigger arterial spasm which is the cause of a
woman's heart attack, unlike in men, where spasm is not the issue and
direct blockage is more relevant.)
 
What Irene says here is so vitally important and I do hope everyone takes it very seriously.  Let this be a warning to everyone:  it took only ONE such meal to do it to me.  One moderately high fat meal plus one stressful court hearing (during which I practiced conscious breathing, relaxation and energization techniques)...however, the next morning I awoke to a heart attack. (I did have direct blocakge as well as arterial spams too, however).  I was 2500 miles away from home visiting my ailing father when it happened.  Defying all common sense (as well as the warnings of the medical stablishment), I checked out of ICU and gingerly hopped aboard a plane and flew straight home (btw: not recommended!).
 
IRENE:
Again - the anti-inflammatory diet
Bio-feedback and breathing exercises to lower pressure.
Always on the lookout for other healthy options.
I am prone to heart attacks with this illness so I carry Arnica 1M
with me, (and potassium as I go hypokalemic easily and suddenly) as
the Arn 1M stops a heart attack.
 
I'm interested in your sx's, Irene, and why you choose to use Arnica instead of something else?  I used Cactus Grandiflora at the onset of my MI...but had very intense sx's so perhaps it wasn't the right remedy - I don't know.  However,  I believe it *did* save my life anyway and may have dislodged a clot (it may have increased my BP because it went through the roof soon after dosing - which was not a good thing but in the end it worked out).  Also, the Cactus may very well have healed my mitral valve syndrome as the doctors can find NO evidence that it ever existed (and I've had it since I was a child).  Mysteries abound with homeopathy....Potassium, yes, i need that too but have not started it yet.

IRENE:
Have cats. They lower blood pressure just by stroking them, and mine
alert me to impending heart attack.
 
Isn't this the truth?  It was when I was away from them that I was "struck".  But, please, Irene, how do your cats "alert" you to a heart attack?  My cats are staying very very close to me since I returned home from my trip back East.
 
IRENE:
Use antioxidants as much as possible (If a food lacks them, skip it).
Yoga. (Yes I REPEATED THIS ONE. One hour of relaxation yoga brings it
down as much as 20 points I find. I measures. Good to do before
allopath visit to avoid arguments about drugs.)
 
LOVE this...it's just SO true, isn't it?  ;^)
Thanks again for all the reminders....I'm trying extra hard to get my sadhana back on track.
Shanti Om! Bless you,
Sati
 
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Sati | 4 Jul 06:17 2009
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Greetings Dr. Yogesh,
I'm not aware of any other zincum "mind" sx's but I give Zinc Met. to my husband, who is a Union Carpenter, for "restless leg syndrome".  It's actually more like "ticklish feet syndrome", as he feels as if someone is tickling his feet which makes his legs twitch and jump (and which keeps us both awake!).  He experiences this whenever he's been using zinc-coated nails at work and the Zinc Met. works almost every time.  If he's working long term with zinc-coated nails the Zinc Met. stops being as effective after awhile, and although I've tried succussing or increasing the potency, I usually need to switch to some other remedy.  Either zinc or coffea cruda usually relieve his legs/ticklish feet syndrome. 
As far as any mind sx's he has when he's experiencing this physical sx, I really can't recall any but I will watch more closely in the future. 
Regards,
Sati
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 9:57 PM
Subject: beyondhom zincum met ???

HI all,
why dont we discuss some remedy and cases you all have seen and cured of that remedy that will help us apply it .
Zincum is a remedy I dont recognise very often.
Mentals of Zincum I know is
"DELUSIONS ACCUSED SHE IS: Laur,Zinc"
any thing else about zincum mind
if any body would like to share
Dr yogesh.

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Irene de Villiers | 4 Jul 12:12 2009
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On Jul 3, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Sati wrote:

>
>
> Namaste Irene,
> I truly appreciate hearing about your regimen as I also feel that
> allo meds are not beneficial and should be avoided and alternatives
> used whenever possible and when safe. However, I am not aware of
> any alternative to anti-clotting medication after a heart attack
> when a stent has been placed after angioplasty, are you?

Hi Sati,
I have not had experience in this area directly. We recently had a
case on vethom-friends (the veterinary homeopathy list I have)
about restrictive cardiomyopathy in cats - (aka left ventricular
endocardial fibrosis) - in which it is typical to have atrial
enlargement due to ventricular scarring and inefficiency - resulting
in clots that originate in the left atrium but then travel from there
- usually the first symptoms include leg paralysis with saddle
thrombosis (= clot in the lower spine area). I don't know if this
would be a similar scenario?
The trick then is to dissolve it without having smaller breakaway
clots flying about to even worse positions.

We did come up with a short list of options to consider:

Secale cornutum as a potential simillimum due to usual saddle
position and leg paralysis etc
and/or
Thiosinaminum 3C to 34C in Fibonacci plasma potency - specifically to
match the scarred ventricle cause
Serrapeptase with nattokinase (material doses) - to dissolve the clot.
Ampelopsis weitchii gemmotherapy remedy - also to dissolve the clot.
(See Dr Rozencwajg's excellent book on Gemmotherapy.)

> Irene also wrote:
> "Hawthorn berry herb caps 2 per day to start - working p to 8 per day
> in my case - then tapering off after 6 months after the heart healed."
>
> Has anyone ever heard of Hawthorn berry actually contributing to a
> heart attack by creating a situation wherein the plaque is thinned
> too quickly in the area of an infection within an artery?

I have used it both in herbal doses as stated and also in 8C
homeopathic dose. But note that I started 2 caps a day (one am and
one pm) and worked up to 8 (4am and 4 pm). No heavy sudden use. As
far as I know the berry mainly strengthens heart muscle and brings
down BP as a result. I had an enlarged heart with thickened walls,
and an EKG nobody would want to own, I cold barely walk two feet, and
was gasping for air - till 6 months later the heart x-rayed normal
and the cardiologist had a jaw on the floor as i arrived chatting away.
Never saw a problem, but if you are concerned about plaque, then I'd
ALSO use huge amounts of antioxidants
and check out Nitric Oxide in the body as a kind person reminded me
earlier today (synchronicity). See Dr Ignarro's work on it (Nobel
prize too) on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcIWX8C91s4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBPjZJSHr4A

> Thanks for this reminder Irene! I was doing all of the above for
> many years but the downturn in the economy has made it all but
> impossible to continue with supplements, although I do use EVO and
> flax oil.

I'd skip the flax.
It has none of the powerful antioxidants or oleic acid of EVO, and
its Omega-3s tend to be inflammatory ones (unlike fish oil) .

> YES! I cannot agree enough about "avoidance of stress" and the
> benefits of meditation, yoga, etc. However, do you agree that
> there are times when stress simply cannot be avoided?

Oh sure, yes life happens.
It's important then to remember that it is not what happens that is
so relevant, but the way we respond to it.
In my case I have had to learn all kinds of weird strategies as I can
droop dead from a heart attack at the drop of a hat.
(I have Cushing's syndrome and my stress hormone level is 320 instead
of the 10 it should be). SO that means a pin droop is *perceived*
like a suitcase bomb for example - and I have had to learn to re-
decide what inputs were really there - and respond to THOSE - not to
my instinctive perceptions.
So my strategies include as number one - which I recommend in all
modern stress (modern = sedentary) - Play for time, so as to do a
GOOD response to the stress, and do not feel the need to handle it in
an instant as instinct tells us to do.

Cortisol is the stress hormone in anyone's stress trigger. And under
stress it causes release of adrenaline which in turn contracts all
the blood vessels - shooting up the Blood pressure so that the
individual supposedly can "run from the tiger back to the cave", this
being a primitive hormone for stress.
Modern stress is not from attacking tigers but often from something
emotional and physically it is sedentary (unless a truck is trying to
run ho down or some such) . So the cortisol-adrenaline-high BP is the
WRONG stress handling response, but it's what we are genetically
coded to do and will do.

Understanding that may help us CHOOSE to respond differently to undo
the inappropriate part - including going to do some active exercise
(not meditation in this case) to dissipate the hormones involved in
stress. THEN we can handle the actual modern stress more calmly AND
lower that stress BP.

> IRENE continued:
> "I do not eat a high fat meal within 6 hrs of a prior high fat meal.
> (In women this can trigger arterial spasm which is the cause of a
> woman's heart attack, unlike in men, where spasm is not the issue and
> direct blockage is more relevant.)
>
> What Irene says here is so vitally important and I do hope everyone
> takes it very seriously. Let this be a warning to everyone: it
> took only ONE such meal to do it to me. One moderately high fat
> meal plus one stressful court hearing (during which I practiced
> conscious breathing, relaxation and energization
> techniques)...however, the next morning I awoke to a heart attack.
> (I did have direct blocakge as well as arterial spams too,
> however). I was 2500 miles away from home visiting my ailing
> father when it happened. Defying all common sense (as well as the
> warnings of the medical stablishment), I checked out of ICU and
> gingerly hopped aboard a plane and flew straight home (btw: not
> recommended!).

AAAAAAAAGHH!!! I am glad you survived!
And also know that MOST doctors do not properly understand the spasm
thing in women. They will sned yho home in the middle of a spasm
session heart attack. If in doubt INSIST on an EKG.
A heart attack is easily mistaken as heartburn that goes on a while
It can be slow and inexorable taking hours in women - getting worse
all the time - it is not necessarily instant. So - Although my first
one got bad very suddenly - I'd had significant (ignored) discomfort
before that, which actually was part of the heart attack.
At the time my cat was practically yelling at me to do something and
I was too dumb to understand:-)
Till next time!

> I'm interested in your sx's, Irene, and why you choose to use
> Arnica instead of something else?

The heart is a muscle - it was overworking - exhausted - out of
breath - and I felt crushed.
It helped in seconds.
I now have learned to tell heart spasm from GERD - often happens if I
am unexpectedly confronted in a negative way - such as dumped off the
paratrsansit van and left stranded somewhere in the rain and dark at
night with no ride home because some idiot policy was made about how
wheelchairs shold look an the driver decides he will not transport
me. As I mentioned I over-respond horrendously to everything ...that
was more than enough to trigger a heart attack in my case. I was
shaky but Arn 1M did the trick. I was soon phoning the dispatch and
sharing the piece of my mind I decided I could do without as they
needed it more:-)
(Yes what they do/did is illegal; the big boss says she is not a
lawyer so she does not look at the law...)

> I used Cactus Grandiflora at the onset of my MI...but had very
> intense sx's so perhaps it wasn't the right remedy - I don't know.
> However, I believe it *did* save my life anyway and may have
> dislodged a clot (it may have increased my BP because it went
> through the roof soon after dosing - which was not a good thing but
> in the end it worked out). Also, the Cactus may very well have
> healed my mitral valve syndrome as the doctors can find NO evidence
> that it ever existed (and I've had it since I was a child).
> Mysteries abound with homeopathy....Potassium, yes, i need that too
> but have not started it yet.

Interesting to hear your Cactus-gr use too.

> Isn't this the truth? It was when I was away from them that I was
> "struck". But, please, Irene, how do your cats "alert" you to a
> heart attack? My cats are staying very very close to me since I
> returned home from my trip back East.

It varies by personalilty (essentially by innate constitutional type)
Minerva was a Lachesis cat. She made no bones about it, and
practically stomped her feet while yelling at me.
She was on day duty.
Purry took night duty and always slept by my shoulder. She was a Puls
type though, no yelling and foot stomping for her. Instead she was
apologetic but urgent about waking me and did so by tapping the fur
between her toes gently against my lips. Works!
(Norwegian Forest Cats have lots of long between-toe fur (snowshoes)
In both cases it was VERY clear the cat had something to tell me and
I HAD to hear them.

Sadly I lost both those cats and my current kitty Frigga, is Phos
cat, and Sindur is Calc Phos. The heart issues have been away from
home lately, so I do not know how either of these cats would alert
me. I suspect Sindur would use a paw to bat at me.
Frigga might head-bump me and vocalize - but these are guesses. I do
not know what they'd do or even if they'd alert me.

>
> IRENE:
> Use antioxidants as much as possible (If a food lacks them, skip it).
> Yoga. (Yes I REPEATED THIS ONE. One hour of relaxation yoga brings it
> down as much as 20 points I find. I measures. Good to do before
> allopath visit to avoid arguments about drugs.)
>
> LOVE this...it's just SO true, isn't it? ;^)

Yup! One can also claim a Dr office is stressful.....
Look after yourself.

Namaste,
Irene
--
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
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On July 4, 2009, at 3:12 AM (shouldn't you be in bed, Irene?...or perhaps meditating?) ;^), Irene wrote:
 
"ALSO use huge amounts of antioxidants
and check out Nitric Oxide in the body as a kind person reminded me
earlier today (synchronicity)."
 
Irene, I absolutely *must*  tell you about the  "synchronicity" associated with your email...last night I had total mind block while trying to compose an email to my son and the word "synchronicity" would not come to mind (and none of my thesauruses had it either), then I got your email!  
I'm going back to finish my son's letter and will get back to you again if possible....thanks again for all your valuable info Irene!!!! 
Shanti,
Sati
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 3:12 AM
Subject: Re: beyondhom Re: repetitions and dose in chronic diseases


On Jul 3, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Sati wrote:

>
>
> Namaste Irene,
> I truly appreciate hearing about your regimen as I also feel that
> allo meds are not beneficial and should be avoided and alternatives
> used whenever possible and when safe. However, I am not aware of
> any alternative to anti-clotting medication after a heart attack
> when a stent has been placed after angioplasty, are you?

Hi Sati,
I have not had experience in this area directly. We recently had a
case on vethom-friends (the veterinary homeopathy list I have)
about restrictive cardiomyopathy in cats - (aka left ventricular
endocardial fibrosis) - in which it is typical to have atrial
enlargement due to ventricular scarring and inefficiency - resulting
in clots that originate in the left atrium but then travel from there
- usually the first symptoms include leg paralysis with saddle
thrombosis (= clot in the lower spine area). I don't know if this
would be a similar scenario?
The trick then is to dissolve it without having smaller breakaway
clots flying about to even worse positions.

We did come up with a short list of options to consider:

Secale cornutum as a potential simillimum due to usual saddle
position and leg paralysis etc
and/or
Thiosinaminum 3C to 34C in Fibonacci plasma potency - specifically to
match the scarred ventricle cause
Serrapeptase with nattokinase (material doses) - to dissolve the clot.
Ampelopsis weitchii gemmotherapy remedy - also to dissolve the clot.
(See Dr Rozencwajg's excellent book on Gemmotherapy.)

> Irene also wrote:
> "Hawthorn berry herb caps 2 per day to start - working p to 8 per day
> in my case - then tapering off after 6 months after the heart healed."
>
> Has anyone ever heard of Hawthorn berry actually contributing to a
> heart attack by creating a situation wherein the plaque is thinned
> too quickly in the area of an infection within an artery?

I have used it both in herbal doses as stated and also in 8C
homeopathic dose. But note that I started 2 caps a day (one am and
one pm) and worked up to 8 (4am and 4 pm). No heavy sudden use. As
far as I know the berry mainly strengthens heart muscle and brings
down BP as a result. I had an enlarged heart with thickened walls,
and an EKG nobody would want to own, I cold barely walk two feet, and
was gasping for air - till 6 months later the heart x-rayed normal
and the cardiologist had a jaw on the floor as i arrived chatting away.
Never saw a problem, but if you are concerned about plaque, then I'd
ALSO use huge amounts of antioxidants
and check out Nitric Oxide in the body as a kind person reminded me
earlier today (synchronicity). See Dr Ignarro's work on it (Nobel
prize too) on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcIWX8C91s4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBPjZJSHr4A

> Thanks for this reminder Irene! I was doing all of the above for
> many years but the downturn in the economy has made it all but
> impossible to continue with supplements, although I do use EVO and
> flax oil.

I'd skip the flax.
It has none of the powerful antioxidants or oleic acid of EVO, and
its Omega-3s tend to be inflammatory ones (unlike fish oil) .

> YES! I cannot agree enough about "avoidance of stress" and the
> benefits of meditation, yoga, etc. However, do you agree that
> there are times when stress simply cannot be avoided?

Oh sure, yes life happens.
It's important then to remember that it is not what happens that is
so relevant, but the way we respond to it.
In my case I have had to learn all kinds of weird strategies as I can
droop dead from a heart attack at the drop of a hat.
(I have Cushing's syndrome and my stress hormone level is 320 instead
of the 10 it should be). SO that means a pin droop is *perceived*
like a suitcase bomb for example - and I have had to learn to re-
decide what inputs were really there - and respond to THOSE - not to
my instinctive perceptions.
So my strategies include as number one - which I recommend in all
modern stress (modern = sedentary) - Play for time, so as to do a
GOOD response to the stress, and do not feel the need to handle it in
an instant as instinct tells us to do.

Cortisol is the stress hormone in anyone's stress trigger. And under
stress it causes release of adrenaline which in turn contracts all
the blood vessels - shooting up the Blood pressure so that the
individual supposedly can "run from the tiger back to the cave", this
being a primitive hormone for stress.
Modern stress is not from attacking tigers but often from something
emotional and physically it is sedentary (unless a truck is trying to
run ho down or some such) . So the cortisol-adrenaline-high BP is the
WRONG stress handling response, but it's what we are genetically
coded to do and will do.

Understanding that may help us CHOOSE to respond differently to undo
the inappropriate part - including going to do some active exercise
(not meditation in this case) to dissipate the hormones involved in
stress. THEN we can handle the actual modern stress more calmly AND
lower that stress BP.

> IRENE continued:
> "I do not eat a high fat meal within 6 hrs of a prior high fat meal.
> (In women this can trigger arterial spasm which is the cause of a
> woman's heart attack, unlike in men, where spasm is not the issue and
> direct blockage is more relevant.)
>
> What Irene says here is so vitally important and I do hope everyone
> takes it very seriously. Let this be a warning to everyone: it
> took only ONE such meal to do it to me. One moderately high fat
> meal plus one stressful court hearing (during which I practiced
> conscious breathing, relaxation and energization
> techniques)...however, the next morning I awoke to a heart attack.
> (I did have direct blocakge as well as arterial spams too,
> however). I was 2500 miles away from home visiting my ailing
> father when it happened. Defying all common sense (as well as the
> warnings of the medical stablishment), I checked out of ICU and
> gingerly hopped aboard a plane and flew straight home (btw: not
> recommended!).

AAAAAAAAGHH!!! I am glad you survived!
And also know that MOST doctors do not properly understand the spasm
thing in women. They will sned yho home in the middle of a spasm
session heart attack. If in doubt INSIST on an EKG.
A heart attack is easily mistaken as heartburn that goes on a while
It can be slow and inexorable taking hours in women - getting worse
all the time - it is not necessarily instant. So - Although my first
one got bad very suddenly - I'd had significant (ignored) discomfort
before that, which actually was part of the heart attack.
At the time my cat was practically yelling at me to do something and
I was too dumb to understand:-)
Till next time!

> I'm interested in your sx's, Irene, and why you choose to use
> Arnica instead of something else?

The heart is a muscle - it was overworking - exhausted - out of
breath - and I felt crushed.
It helped in seconds.
I now have learned to tell heart spasm from GERD - often happens if I
am unexpectedly confronted in a negative way - such as dumped off the
paratrsansit van and left stranded somewhere in the rain and dark at
night with no ride home because some idiot policy was made about how
wheelchairs shold look an the driver decides he will not transport
me. As I mentioned I over-respond horrendously to everything ...that
was more than enough to trigger a heart attack in my case. I was
shaky but Arn 1M did the trick. I was soon phoning the dispatch and
sharing the piece of my mind I decided I could do without as they
needed it more:-)
(Yes what they do/did is illegal; the big boss says she is not a
lawyer so she does not look at the law...)

> I used Cactus Grandiflora at the onset of my MI...but had very
> intense sx's so perhaps it wasn't the right remedy - I don't know.
> However, I believe it *did* save my life anyway and may have
> dislodged a clot (it may have increased my BP because it went
> through the roof soon after dosing - which was not a good thing but
> in the end it worked out). Also, the Cactus may very well have
> healed my mitral valve syndrome as the doctors can find NO evidence
> that it ever existed (and I've had it since I was a child).
> Mysteries abound with homeopathy....Potassium, yes, i need that too
> but have not started it yet.

Interesting to hear your Cactus-gr use too.

> Isn't this the truth? It was when I was away from them that I was
> "struck". But, please, Irene, how do your cats "alert" you to a
> heart attack? My cats are staying very very close to me since I
> returned home from my trip back East.

It varies by personalilty (essentially by innate constitutional type)
Minerva was a Lachesis cat. She made no bones about it, and
practically stomped her feet while yelling at me.
She was on day duty.
Purry took night duty and always slept by my shoulder. She was a Puls
type though, no yelling and foot stomping for her. Instead she was
apologetic but urgent about waking me and did so by tapping the fur
between her toes gently against my lips. Works!
(Norwegian Forest Cats have lots of long between-toe fur (snowshoes)
In both cases it was VERY clear the cat had something to tell me and
I HAD to hear them.

Sadly I lost both those cats and my current kitty Frigga, is Phos
cat, and Sindur is Calc Phos. The heart issues have been away from
home lately, so I do not know how either of these cats would alert
me. I suspect Sindur would use a paw to bat at me.
Frigga might head-bump me and vocalize - but these are guesses. I do
not know what they'd do or even if they'd alert me.

>
> IRENE:
> Use antioxidants as much as possible (If a food lacks them, skip it).
> Yoga. (Yes I REPEATED THIS ONE. One hour of relaxation yoga brings it
> down as much as 20 points I find. I measures. Good to do before
> allopath visit to avoid arguments about drugs.)
>
> LOVE this...it's just SO true, isn't it? ;^)

Yup! One can also claim a Dr office is stressful.....
Look after yourself.

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
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Irene de Villiers | 4 Jul 23:46 2009
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On Jul 4, 2009, at 1:09 PM, Sati wrote:
>
> Irene, I absolutely *must* tell you about the "synchronicity"
> associated with your email...last night I had total mind block
> while trying to compose an email to my son and the word
> "synchronicity" would not come to mind

Love it :-) :-) :-)

Namaste,
Irene

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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
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