My mother (UK) had scarlet fever around the same time.
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From: "Irene de Villiers" <furryboots <at> icehouse.net>
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Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:48 AM
Subject: beyondhom !
> On Mar 26, 2009, at 7:35 AM, Cheryl Overley wrote:
>> How long ago did your mother contract Scarlet fever?
> In 1919 or 1920. She was 2 yrs old and had Scarlet Fever. She was
> told not to go into the new baby's room as he would get sick too. But
> she just had to see her new baby brother - and he contracted the
> illness and died.
>> The reason I ask is because in every case I've treated or merely
>> witnessed, only one family member's come down with the disease. I
>> wonder how much is a "that was then this is now" type of thing.
> Hard to say.
> Virulence and/or resistance can change with mutations and other
>>> In 1900 Scarlet Fever killed 10 in 100,000 people per year in USA.
>>> That was the same death rate as for measles and whooping cough.
>>> So it is an equally nasty disease as those others.
>> I've never experienced those diseases as particularly nasty.
> I was in hospital with whooping cough at age 18 months and again at
> age 4. (I was vaccinated against it).
> I almost did not make it. To this day I remember the doctors over me
> in the hospital, telling me to try to breathe deeper and giving my
> mother my dire prognosis. I'm 60 so that was also a few moons ago
> << Is your opinion of their nastiness based mostly on the statistics
> and your family history of maybe a century ago or are you also seeing
> folks hit hard by the disease today?>>
> I work in veterinary homeopathy so I have no real picture of this
> from my work.
> I AM seeing some increases in the Bordetella bronchiseptica bacteria
> (same family as Bordetella pertussis = whooping cough) in both
> animals and people, for what that is worth. Maybe different members
> of an infectious organism family are more prevalent or virulent at
> different times in history. MOST cases of Bord-b in cats and people
> (also sheep) are being missed by both doctors and vets, as they are
> not familiar with the symptoms. In people it is a debilitating
> walking pneumonia, and in cats and sheep it is a silent killer
> pneumonia which builds up alkali in the lungs, burning them away.
> Cats occasionally have a cough now and then that looks like a
> hairball attempt but without the hairball (actually an attempt to
> cough out painful lungs). Three months later they mysteriously drop
> dead overnight. THIS is extremely contagious among cats and sheep -
> less so with people unless immune compromised.
> Kittens have 100% death rate, and after 6 months it is 50%
> - ......though homeopathy can prevent or fix it.
> Gene mapping shows the Bord-B organism and the whooping cough one
> differ in ONE gene only! he Bord-b one makes alkali to burn lungs/
> bronchi, and the whooping cough toxin causes the repetitive cough.
>> If you're seeing bad cases today I'd like to puzzle out differences
>> in our client base to see what's really going on. I'm in Upper
>> Midwest (dry freezing winters) and I think you're in the Pacific
>> Northwest (cold damp winters.)
> Well, we are still having snow here, and the sidewalk outside is
> under 4 foot of snow still. (We got 96 inches of snow in three weeks
> from 17 Dec to New Year, in weather that was minus 6 with 45 mph
> winds, and with 32 inches in a single night at the start.)
> We are further north than any other USA city in the contiguous
> states. I'm in Spokane which is not so much Pacific Northwest as
> "Inland" Northwest. The climate is very harsh, always windy so lots
> of wind-chill. It's sunnier than PNW, but in no way as mild or rainy.
> I lived in Davenport, IA in the 70s, and here is not that different
> except more wind here, and more darkness due to being so far North.
>> My client population skews heavily towards young and healthy
>> families. There are lots of La Leche League/birth center folks
>> (natural health minded folks nursing children into their third and
>> forth year), lots of fresh local produce consumed (CSA members,
>> localvores, organic gardeners, raw food enthusiasts, etc.) with
>> rich supportive social networks (various types of intentional
>> community, working together for positive social change, etc.) and
>> very little vaccine and antibiotic use.
> We are next door to Idaho (20 mins away by car) where the school
> child vaccination rate is lowest in the nation. (Good for them,
> though it has more to do with lack of funds to force it than with
> philosophy!) This is a poor economic area. Spokane also has the
> highest illness rates in the world for chronic diseases ranging from
> MS to cancer. (Probably related to latitude and being too cold to
> ever get sun on the skin for Vit D). Chronic Disease prevalence is
> why the MS research centre is here, along with other research centres
> and a plethora of hospitals - even though it is a relatively small
> city - pop 200,000. In fact the next door city is called Medical Lake
> as it is mainly hospitals.
>> It might be that the nastiest forms killed or sent folks to bed so
>> quickly it didn't spread well while the milder strains got much
>> more established by having carriers go to market, work, school, etc.
> Another option to add to the speculation I did earlier
>> I know many folks who just thought they were just treating a really
>> bad sore throat at home until afterwards the peeling starts. The
>> rash preceding the peeling can differ greatly in intensity and
>> duration so some haven't even noticed it. Perhaps my clients are
>> getting far milder expressions than the scientists you mention are
>> seeing today because they're not using antipyretics or antibiotics
>> with the sore throats,
> I would give that credence except that in 1919/1920 when it was
> killing all the smallest youngsters where my mom lived, they were a
> town days of riding from the nearest other one and had no such things
> as antibiotics and antipyretics. Whatever Irish home remedies my
> grandmother could plan and whatever the local very elderly doc at the
> time for the tiny town knew, was all they had. Mostly they fought the
> fever, but not with any modern medicines - I could not find what
> remedies they did have. It's hard to know a lot of detail from then
> though I tried to investigate. My mom was always traumatized by
> "having killed her baby brother" as she saw it. I can not even
> imagine how it felt to be blamed for a death when she was 2 and was
> very sick herself. Someone no doubt said something without thinking
> during the trauma of losing a baby. It was her intense trauma from it
> that had me trying to find out what I could. But the little town was
> over a nasty mountain from the next place, and 85 miles on horseback
> or by horse and buggy over a steep pass - a very different world from
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