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mike matt | 1 Oct 2008 14:13
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Re: Fw: Warning on lead fallout at gun clubs

We need to outlaw leadville,Co. too and all the other cities that were in the lead trade, like china right? marblehead

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Charlie | 2 Oct 2008 22:33
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Re: Time to weigh in....

--- In concealed@..., "Tim" <kingtutley <at> ...> wrote:
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> Ok. Just read the thread about "getting" the 'legal' right to carry 
a 
> weapon on park grounds.
> 
> So, let me ask you folks a question.
> 
> I think this may have beenh brought up before, but what the hell.
> 
> 1) Is the Second Ammedmant a right to all (Until such time as it is 
> abused and a crime is commited by the party of the first part -- 
have 
> to throw in the lagaleze crap)?
> 
> 2) So, is it "legal" for the law to say I can/cannot carry my 
legally 
> owned and registered weapon here/there?
> 
> As I have read it, The Constitution does not limit my right to bear 
> arms to my home and a few select places where I might go in the 
course 
> of a day, but is very general. I have the right to keep and bear 
arms. 
> So, why have we allowed this "Right" to become so limited? Here in 
TN, 
> I am not allowed to carry anywhere alcohol is sold for consumption 
on 
> the premises, among quite alot of other locations, including parks.
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Al Barth | 3 Oct 2008 04:58
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your comments on "the debate"

OK guys and gals, your comments on the debate, if you please??
Thanks
Al

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"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our
liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow
private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by
inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will
grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property
until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers
conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and
restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

- Thomas Jefferson, 

Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)
3rd president of US 

(1743 - 1826)

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roger | 3 Oct 2008 05:05
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Re: your comments on "the debate"

Our Lady Of The Commoners kicked serious ass and blew away the
naysayers.  Kudos to her for preparing for this debate---as someone
said "Biden has been debating since he was 2 years old".....
Her self confidence and "folksiness" came shining through.....

roger in NWMontana*************************************************

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--- On Thu, 10/2/08, Al Barth <twodogss@...> wrote:

> From: Al Barth <twodogss@...>
> Subject: [concealed] your comments on "the debate"
> To: Undisclosed-Recipient@...
> Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 8:58 PM
> OK guys and gals, your comments on the debate, if you
> please??
> Thanks
> Al
> 
> **********************************************************************
> "I believe that banking institutions are more
> dangerous to our
> liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever
> allow
> private banks to control the issue of their currency, first
> by
> inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations
> that will
> grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all
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Al Barth | 3 Oct 2008 05:16
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Purple Power

Forget about red and blue voters, those hyper-partisan Democrats and 
Republicans who dominated the past decade and turned American politics into 
a blood sport. Think about the purple people who are starting to elbow the 
reds and blues aside.

The purple label designates the independent, middle-of-the-road voters who 
have made a comeback and now occupy the main battleground of 2008.

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/purple_power_survey/2008/10/02/136681.html?s=al&promo_code=6C1B-1

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"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our
liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow
private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by
inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will
grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property
until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers
conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and
restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

- Thomas Jefferson,

Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)
3rd president of US

(1743 - 1826)

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Tim | 3 Oct 2008 12:24
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Re: your comments on "the debate"

Well, you asked......

While both candidates appeared to still be campaigning, Palin was 
doing more of it. She kept talking a whole lot, but never really 
said anything. Vague tags and identifiers to things that need to be 
done without ever answering a question as to what she will do. 
Granted, Biden didn't do much better, and he has benn doing this 
sort of nonsense longer, but ......

I really think they both stank. It was dull and pointless. I was 
hoping to hear one of them say that they were going to do something, 
then it occurred to me..... Neither one of them CAN do anything. 
They don't hold any real power. Of course neither does the CIC. 
Let's face it folks we live in an oligarchy. Relate that to the 
Politburo of the now defunct USSR and you might see what I mean.

Oh well, one of them it must be, shame Biden couldn't wind up with 
McCain.

--- In concealed@..., "Al Barth" <twodogss <at> ...> wrote:
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> OK guys and gals, your comments on the debate, if you please??
> Thanks
> Al
> 
> 
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> "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our
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Allan Whitman | 3 Oct 2008 12:54
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RE: your comments on "the debate"


It was a draw. I don't think either of them changed any minds that will translate into votes next month.  Both
held their own without any major gaffs.  Frankly it was more entertaining than I expected. Biden was Biden,
same old crap as always. Palin appeared to be scripted; didn't answer the questions being asked, kept
going back to the "talking points', but she appeared confident and didn't stumble...  I thought Gwen Iffle
gave Biden the "last word" in almost every case.

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hawgwrench1 | 3 Oct 2008 14:16
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Re: your comments on "the debate"

It is painfully obvious, and has been for years, that the candidates 
of the 2 major political parties care more about the well-being of 
Israel than they do about Americans.  They both bow to AIPAC at a 
tremendous cost in dollars and the blood of our children.  Sad and 
disgusting!  There is no way that I could, in good conscious, vote 
for either a Republican or a Democrat.  Both would contribute to the 
continuing downfall of this Republic.

--- In concealed@..., "Al Barth" <twodogss <at> ...> wrote:
>
> OK guys and gals, your comments on the debate, if you please??
> Thanks
> Al
> 
> 
**********************************************************************
> "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our
> liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow
> private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by
> inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will
> grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property
> until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers
> conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and
> restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."
> 
> - Thomas Jefferson, 
> 
> Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)
> 3rd president of US 
>
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David Mamanakis | 3 Oct 2008 15:30

Re: Re: your comments on "the debate"

I am afraid that there is no "lesser" of the two evils.
They are both just "evil" or at least neither is the way we should be 
voting...

That said, I fully believe that we need to vote. Every vote, in some 
way, does count for something...and we can really make a change...maybe 
not for the next 4 years, but a change this election could affect the 
next election 4 years from now...kind of "long term planning"...

Vote for a 3rd party. If every American who "doesn't know who to vote 
for" or "cannot, in good conscience, vote for dem or rep" or "won't vote 
this time"...if everyone is sick of "the same old thing", then we need 
to vote for a third party...
Not just any third party, but the one that has the best chance of success...

Success? What? I am not talking about wining the election, I am talking 
about getting at least 3% of the votes. If a Party can get at least 3% 
of the votes during a presidential election, they qualify for Federal 
Fund Matching for their campaigns.
Now, our 2 party system would become a 3 party system...now THAT is change!

There is no better way to let the Democrats and the Republicans know 
that we are dissatisfied with their performance than to give them a real 
kick in the pants, and another way to loose votes. If they start to 
realize that their "people" would rather vote for SOMEONE ELSE, maybe 
they would start to listen to what the People want...

I know it is a long shot, and with Greens, Libertarians, 
Constitutionalists, Socialists, and Communists, there are a handful of 
"3rd parties" to choose from.
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Al Barth | 3 Oct 2008 16:47
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Re: Re: your comments on "the debate"

really nice thought here, except they will result in an NObama vote.  Why, 
because every vote not cast for McCain/Palin will be one less vote they can 
use to beat the half breed.
Until the nation, and it won't be in our life time, accepts a 3rd party, the 
two idiots are all we got.
and if you own a gun you do NOT want the half breed any where near DC
Al
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Subject: Re: [concealed] Re: your comments on "the debate"

>I am afraid that there is no "lesser" of the two evils.
> They are both just "evil" or at least neither is the way we should be
> voting...
>
> That said, I fully believe that we need to vote. Every vote, in some
> way, does count for something...and we can really make a change...maybe
> not for the next 4 years, but a change this election could affect the
> next election 4 years from now...kind of "long term planning"...
>
> Vote for a 3rd party. If every American who "doesn't know who to vote
> for" or "cannot, in good conscience, vote for dem or rep" or "won't vote
> this time"...if everyone is sick of "the same old thing", then we need
> to vote for a third party...
> Not just any third party, but the one that has the best chance of 
> success...
>
> Success? What? I am not talking about wining the election, I am talking
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