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aletheiak | 1 May 2005 04:25
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multibanger prospects soar further Re: Old Insular Affairs verbiage unearthed!

--- In BoundaryPoint@..., "Lowell G. McManus"
<mcmanus71496 <at> m...> 
wrote:
> Mike D. wrote:
> 
> > i also noticed that the word
> > none
> > which appears under
> > remaining united states claims
> > is not in the original font
> > suggesting someone may have quietly monkeyed with this text after the fact
> 
> While browsing my hard drive today, I found that on April 20, 1998, I saved
> quite a lot of text from the Insular Affairs web site as it then existed!  The
> site was structured differently back then, but I can give you the language that
> formerly appeared where the monkeying bureaucrat subsequently inserted the word
> "None."  This is also where the dysfunctional "U.S." link should point (and
> undoubtedly once did).
> 
> Here it is:
> _______
> 
> OTHER ISLANDS STILL UNDER DISPUTED
> UNITED STATES' SOVEREIGNTY
> 
> The United States' claim to Serranilla Bank:
> 
> About two hundred ten miles north north-east of Nicaragua lies the Serranilla
> Bank. Some consider that the United States acquired the bank under the Guano
> Islands Act of August 18, 1856 (Title 48, U.S. Code, sections 1411-19). Several
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Lowell G. McManus | 1 May 2005 04:55
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Re: multibanger prospects soar further Re: Old Insular Affairs verbiage unearthed!

Mike D. asked:

> do you still have your original letter to the oia from a couple of weeks ago
> for that would really tell me something new as well as fill in the needed 
> blanks
> as i imagine i would just redirect it to the white house at this point
> essentially unchanged
> or else covered by a brief explanatory note if necessary

Yes, I do:
_______

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>
To: <Nikolao_Pula@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 2:46 PM
Subject: Serranilla and Bajo Nuevo Banks

> Good Morning,
>
> I have been scouring the Insular Affairs web site and many other sources for
> information on the current status of the US claims to the Serranilla and Bajo
> Nuevo Banks in the Caribbean Sea.  I find seemingly conflicting information on
> your site.
>
> First, I am aware that these islands were claimed under the Guano Islands Act,
> that the US is not obligated to retain possession of guano islands after the
> removal of the guano, and that other nations do have claims to them.  I have 
> no
> political axe to grind either way.  My interest is purely academic.
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Lowell G. McManus | 1 May 2005 01:48
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Old Insular Affairs verbiage unearthed!

Mike D. wrote:

> i also noticed that the word
> none
> which appears under
> remaining united states claims
> is not in the original font
> suggesting someone may have quietly monkeyed with this text after the fact

While browsing my hard drive today, I found that on April 20, 1998, I saved
quite a lot of text from the Insular Affairs web site as it then existed!  The
site was structured differently back then, but I can give you the language that
formerly appeared where the monkeying bureaucrat subsequently inserted the word
"None."  This is also where the dysfunctional "U.S." link should point (and
undoubtedly once did).

Here it is:
_______

OTHER ISLANDS STILL UNDER DISPUTED
UNITED STATES' SOVEREIGNTY

The United States' claim to Serranilla Bank:

About two hundred ten miles north north-east of Nicaragua lies the Serranilla
Bank. Some consider that the United States acquired the bank under the Guano
Islands Act of August 18, 1856 (Title 48, U.S. Code, sections 1411-19). Several
very small cays emerge above the water to form the bank's islands.
Colombia has not directly claimed Serranilla Bank but is on record as
considering the bank a part of the Providence Archipelago in the intendancy of
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Lowell G. McManus | 1 May 2005 01:09
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Re: multibanger prospects looking up Re: Islands in dispute between USA and others

See five brief insertions below:

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 3:50 PM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] multibanger prospects looking up Re: Islands in dispute 
between USA and others

> hmm
> 2 weeks now
> & i still think it was a good idea you asked
> even if just to gauge the possible degree of bewilderment caused by the 
> question

You are correct.  Not a word from the folks at Insular Affairs.

> & when i checked back at their website today just to see if they have reacted 
> to you yet
> http://www.doi.gov/oia/Islandpages/disputedpage.htm
> i noticed if i point the mouse to
> united states
> at the bottom of the tabulated list under sovereignty on the left side of the 
> page
> there is a dysfunctional link still indicated there expressly for serranilla
> http://www.doi.gov/oia/Islandpages/disputedpage.htm#Serranilla%20Bank:
>
> i also noticed that the word
> none
> which appears under
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Brian McGann | 1 May 2005 01:58

Re: aged all at talladega

Thank you.
Brian
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] aged all at talladega

> hey brian
> some of your brothers were just here too
> apparently asking the same question
> but if you mean the massachusetts rhode island
> connecticut tristate point & monument
> as i imagine you do
> then you are all in the right place
>
> for you can either follow the directions that begin at
> the end of the first line of the description section
> in the following link
> http://www.bjbsoftware.com/corners/pointdetail.php3?point=20
> which is just above the photo section & starts by
> saying
> the easiest way to reach the monument
> etc etc
>
> or you can click on the icon for
> jack parsells book
> just to the left of this description area
> beneath the also helpful topo & weather report icons
> for at least 2 alternative routes if you prefer
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Seÿffffe1n O'Connell | 1 May 2005 06:27
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Balkan Trip

I plan to travel from Ljubljana, Zagreb, and the
Dalmatian coast to Montenegro next month.

I would like to discover,and visit/cross, new borders,
enclaves and/or other geopolitical anomalies (such as
the Neum corridor).

Any tips would be much appreciated!!

Thanks!

Sean O'Connell
Vancouver, Canada

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aletheia kallos | 1 May 2005 13:59
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Re: Balkan Trip

the southerly tripoint twin of bosnia & croatia with
serbia montenegro
aka bacshrs
is still virgin
& lies only a few km off your intended route
http://multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=2050000&Y=5225000&width=500&height=300&gride=&gridn=&srec=0&coordsys=mercator&db=w3&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&zm=0&scale=1000000&multimap.x=260&multimap.y=176
& evidently only a few hundred meters from a public
road
http://multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=2050000&Y=5217500&width=500&height=300&gride=&gridn=&srec=0&coordsys=mercator&db=w3&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&zm=0&scale=100000&multimap.x=325&multimap.y=179

vis tecum

--- Seÿffffe1n O'Connell <gleannmaghair@...>
wrote:
> I plan to travel from Ljubljana, Zagreb, and the
> Dalmatian coast to Montenegro next month.
> 
> I would like to discover,and visit/cross, new
> borders,
> enclaves and/or other geopolitical anomalies (such
> as
> the Neum corridor).
> 
> Any tips would be much appreciated!!
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Sean O'Connell
> Vancouver, Canada
>
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aletheiak | 1 May 2005 14:05
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Re: Balkan Trip

however
the second map has the countries mixed up
so dont mind that

--- In BoundaryPoint@..., aletheia kallos <aletheiak <at> y...> wrote:
> the southerly tripoint twin of bosnia & croatia with
> serbia montenegro
> aka bacshrs
> is still virgin
> & lies only a few km off your intended route
> http://multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?
client=public&X=2050000&Y=5225000&width=500&height=300&gride=&gridn=&srec=0
&coordsys=mercator&db=w3&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinf
osel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&zm=0&scale=1000000&multimap.x=260&multim
ap.y=176
> & evidently only a few hundred meters from a public
> road
> http://multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?
client=public&X=2050000&Y=5217500&width=500&height=300&gride=&gridn=&srec=0
&coordsys=mercator&db=w3&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinf
osel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&zm=0&scale=100000&multimap.x=325&multima
p.y=179
> 
> vis tecum
> 
> --- Seÿffffe1n O'Connell <gleannmaghair <at> y...>
> wrote:
> > I plan to travel from Ljubljana, Zagreb, and the
> > Dalmatian coast to Montenegro next month.
> >
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aletheia kallos | 1 May 2005 15:00
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Re: multibanger prospects soar further Re: Old Insular Affairs verbiage unearthed!

ok thanx

how would the following be with you

dear president bush

may i invite your primary attention to the attached
letter from my friend & your fellow adoptive texan
lowell mcmanus to the office of insular affairs
regarding the currently indistinct status of the
united states territorial possessions at serranilla &
bajo nuevo along with their associated potentially
exclusive economic zones
since these are evidently all 
by guano law 
under executive prerogative & responsibility

& because the oia appears confused & indisposed to
answer directly & clearly on your behalf for these
valuable possessions since perhaps 2003
may i also inquire directly from you 
what is your present disposition regarding these
united states territories

thank you for your consideration & for all you do

with sincere respect & affection
etc

> From: "Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>
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Lowell G. McManus | 1 May 2005 15:52
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Re: multibanger prospects soar further Re: Old Insular Affairs verbiage unearthed!

That's fine by me--except that I'm not yet an adoptive Texan.  I've always
resided in Louisiana.  I plan to reside in Texas in the indeterminate future.

Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@...>
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] multibanger prospects soar further Re: Old Insular
Affairs verbiage unearthed!

> ok thanx
>
> how would the following be with you
>
>
> dear president bush
>
> may i invite your primary attention to the attached
> letter from my friend & your fellow adoptive texan
> lowell mcmanus to the office of insular affairs
> regarding the currently indistinct status of the
> united states territorial possessions at serranilla &
> bajo nuevo along with their associated potentially
> exclusive economic zones
> since these are evidently all
> by guano law
> under executive prerogative & responsibility
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