aletheia kallos | 1 Apr 2005 01:05
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more jersey jokes


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L. A. Nadybal | 1 Apr 2005 04:21
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Re: american acre in runnymeade uk


There's a big difference between "ceded" and only "deeded".  The USA
owns a lot of property around the world over which it isn't the sovereign.

I recall the case of the embassy grounds in Prague - the U.S. owns the
property unlike the cases of most other US embassy grounds. It was, if
I recall right, the fact that the U.S. held real property deed / title
(that a private party gave the US as a gift before the communist
regime came into power) that the old Czech government couldn't
nationalize it -  the grounds remained the only "private" property in
Czechoslovakia during the "red" period.     

The US never claimed the grounds as a piece of US territory in
Czechoslovakia.  (It was only a place where Czech law didn't apply
because it was an embassy - EXTRA-territorial from the Czech side, but
not annexed to be part of the US).

LN 

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> http://melinlondon.typepad.com/photos/runnymead_and_windsor/         
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>  I have seen reference to this acre being deeded to the USA by the UK,
> but i forget the history of the event.Can anyone help?  And why does 
> it never show up on lists of American Territories?

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Lowell G. McManus | 1 Apr 2005 04:38
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Re: Re: Indoor border marker


In what kind of building is this marker located?

Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA

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> 
> Eef Berns mentioned another (semi-official) indoor border marker to me.
> 
> See http://www.grenspalen.nl/archief-denl/gp-depruis-nl-228-238.html, find
> marker 232 (gp232).
> 
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Lowell G. McManus | 1 Apr 2005 05:21
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Re: Re: american acre in runnymeade uk


I agree with Len.  The USA is landowner of that acre, not sovereign.

There's a small parcel of land down the road from me that's owned by the State 
of California (having been willed so by the late previous owner).  This doesn't 
mean that anyone who rented and lived on the land could vote for Arnold 
Schwarzenegger.

Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA

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>
>
> There's a big difference between "ceded" and only "deeded".  The USA
> owns a lot of property around the world over which it isn't the sovereign.
>
> I recall the case of the embassy grounds in Prague - the U.S. owns the
> property unlike the cases of most other US embassy grounds. It was, if
> I recall right, the fact that the U.S. held real property deed / title
> (that a private party gave the US as a gift before the communist
> regime came into power) that the old Czech government couldn't
> nationalize it -  the grounds remained the only "private" property in
> Czechoslovakia during the "red" period.
>
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Kevin Meynell | 1 Apr 2005 12:52

Re: wysw pic culminating 7point mormon tour of utah


>while of course the fundamentalist burg on azut is thematically obligatory

Hmmm.. I drove through there last month. Due to limited time and the 
primary goal of visiting the Grand Canyon, the boundary/multipoint 
opportunities largely had to be forsaken, but I was quite surprised at how 
poorly the UTAZ line was indicated in the border towns in this area (e.g. 
Kanab/Fredonia).

Regards,

Kevin Meynell 

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aletheia kallos | 1 Apr 2005 15:35
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culminating 7point mormon tour of utah


yes azut was never very popular with the locals

when the mormons arrived in deseret aka greater salt
lake in 1847 
this whole area was still legally mexico as well as
practically empty
& so they quickly fanned out as far as they could in
all directions
& would & could well have controlled as far south as
the grand canyon

but after the usa gained control of most of the
southwest in 1848
& established utah territory in 1850 between the 37th
& 42nd parallels
from the rockies to california
the first of 7 successive reductions to mormon
aspirations had thus already occurred 
along what has since become azut

& this was one of the last state lines to be marked
too

indeed most of its 277 mileposts that were finally set
in 1901 are believed to still be just iron pipe stems 

my favorite couple of miles of it all tho are
http://topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=4095093&e=546207&s=50&size=l&datum=nad83&layer=DRG25

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aletheia kallos | 1 Apr 2005 16:40
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multi mouse roars du jour


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aletheia kallos | 1 Apr 2005 16:46
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hopefully corrected multi mouse roars du jour


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Jesper Nielsen | 1 Apr 2005 17:23
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Re: Re: Indoor border marker

Translation please.
 
Is the corner the official border point 232? Where is the marker?
 
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In what kind of building is this marker located?

Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA


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>
> Eef Berns mentioned another (semi-official) indoor border marker to me.
>
> See http://www.grenspalen.nl/archief-denl/gp-depruis-nl-228-238.html, find
> marker 232 (gp232).
>
> Groeten en suc6
> Harry ten Veen
aletheia kallos | 1 Apr 2005 23:10
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surprisingly few show up for border folly showdown


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