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shari | 1 Dec 2011 06:14
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Re: Why do my own dehydrating???

 

I do it because my cooking (I cook for a living) tastes so much better than Mountain House or any of those other over-priced, heartburn-inducing pre-packaged foods that, imo, taste little better than seasoned cardboard.  I've also found that many of the foods I enjoy from my favorite little mom-and-pop restaurants can be dehydrated.  It's a great thing to be sitting on top of a mountain a thousand miles away from home, eating my favorite take-out.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Ken <snwcmpr-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
 

Expense, and I have (A LOT) more time than money.
I make a lot, and store as "emergency' food supply.
I have many mason jars (Foodsaver vacuum packed) full of dehydrated veggies,
dinner meals, etc.
Easy access to vegetables for making soups and stews on the wood stove
during the winter months.

I also believe our society has lost a connection due to having companies
make things for us. So, I try to keep a connection.

Other reasons are I like Organic, and doing it myself keep quality under
control (most of the time).

Ken in NC

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From: "Jerry Goller"
> Why do you dehydrate your own instead of just buying freeze dried ones?
>
> Jerry


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shari | 1 Dec 2011 06:19
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Re: Re: more low or no cook foods -- Drying potatoes question

 

Ken, line your trays with saran wrap or wax paper, or even baking parchment.  This works to convert the trays with holes into solid trays.


On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Ken <snwcmpr <at> hotmail.com> wrote:
 

I thought of that ... but I only have 1 solid flat tray. (The kind to make
roll-ups)
But, I have 6 trays with small holes.
If this doesn't work, I will mash, dry, then PULVERIZE.

I've been looking at Vitamix, but haven't seen one in a thrift shop, YET!!
I hate to pay full price, but will if I have to, for a really good product.

Ken in NC
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> A couple of ideas that occurred to me. I know I can grind grain and
> nuts in my Vitamix, but that's probably overkill. The other one was,
> could you mash the potatoes before dehydrating and then grind that up?
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> Anyway, let us know how the new batch works out.
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shari | 1 Dec 2011 06:24
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Re: more low or no cook foods

 

Not sure about turkey, but chicken doesn't rehydrate well.  I've been dehydrating my food for over 10 years now and chicken has always been a dismal failure.  Beef, on the other hand, rehydrates beautifully.  Fish comes back nicely as well.


On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Jerry Goller <jerrygoller-UFS7mITjnAiGkU+Z+ufpa2D2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org> wrote:
 

Man, I wish we had a Trader Joe's here! I use that rule myself. I came up
with a curried chicken and rice that I am happy to eat at home. Actually,
now that I think of it, I'd eat any of my meals at home.

Send me your address and I'll send you some of the chicken and some of the
turkey to try.



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A rule of thumb for me is:
Is it good at home?

On the trail, freeze dried fruit from trader joes goes into oatmeal a lot.

Ken

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Subject: RE: [BackpackingLight] more low or no cook foods

> Well, it sounds like we pretty much agree on most all of this. As I said
> before, I really was curious as to why you chose dehydration as your
> choice
> for food preservation.
>
> I'm pretty sure you are much better at it than I was. I worked with it for
> around a year but never came up with good meals. But the ground beef was
> outstanding.
>
> Jerry
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Jim Marco | 1 Dec 2011 12:04
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RE: more low or no cook foods

 

Hi All,

            Some news on two new packs soon to be released by Gossamer Gear.

Phil put up an initial impressions review for the Minimalist at:

http://sectionhiker.com/the-minimalist-ultralight-day-pack-from-gossamer-gear/

 

On BPL I found this link to the new 2012 Murmur:

http://gossamergear.com/murmur-hyperlight-backpack-297.html

 

            Enjoy!

                        jdm

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From: BackpackingLight-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org [mailto:BackpackingLight-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of shari
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Subject: Re: [BackpackingLight] more low or no cook foods

 

 

Not sure about turkey, but chicken doesn't rehydrate well.  I've been dehydrating my food for over 10 years now and chicken has always been a dismal failure.  Beef, on the other hand, rehydrates beautifully.  Fish comes back nicely as well.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Jerry Goller <jerrygoller-UFS7mITjnAiGkU+Z+ufpa2D2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org> wrote:

 

Man, I wish we had a Trader Joe's here! I use that rule myself. I came up
with a curried chicken and rice that I am happy to eat at home. Actually,
now that I think of it, I'd eat any of my meals at home.

Send me your address and I'll send you some of the chicken and some of the
turkey to try.



Jerry

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reviews on the planet.

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 08:18
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A rule of thumb for me is:
Is it good at home?

On the trail, freeze dried fruit from trader joes goes into oatmeal a lot.

Ken

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To: <BackpackingLight-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org>
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> Well, it sounds like we pretty much agree on most all of this. As I said
> before, I really was curious as to why you chose dehydration as your
> choice
> for food preservation.
>
> I'm pretty sure you are much better at it than I was. I worked with it for
> around a year but never came up with good meals. But the ground beef was
> outstanding.
>
> Jerry
>
> http://www.backpackgeartest.org/: the most comprehensive interactive gear
> reviews on the planet.
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Segraves | 1 Dec 2011 13:46
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rehydrating in cold water

 

A question for all the freeze-dried food gurus.  Are there particular foods or foods from particular sources that consistently rehydrate well in cold water?  (Within a reasonable period of time, say 30'.)
Interested in both vegetables and meats (poultry and fish, primarily).

Thanks!

Best,

Bill
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Rosaleen Sullivan | 1 Dec 2011 14:02
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Re: more low or no cook foods -- Drying potatoes question

 

Ken-
 
You kindred soul, you!
 
Yes, look for second-hand items to avoid paying full price.  Nearly anything from appliances to automobiles.
 
In addition to thrift shops, watch for a Vitamix on eBay, Craig's List and even FreeCycle.  No, I don't have one, but I got a pretty good deal on a new Excalibur dehydrator on eBay several years ago.  I burned out 3 or 4 of the cheap ones before biting the bullet and buying the Cadillac version. 
 
Also, Shari (I believe) mentioned using plastic wrap or parchment paper to line your trays  to make more room for sauces, mashed potatoes, etc..  Yes, yes, and yes!  I especially like parchment paper for drying.  The porosity allows water to escape from both sides of the food, so it dries faster.  Parchment paper is expensive, though.  I found that if I am careful and gentle, I can hand wash the cut piece and reuse in a few times.  Another trick I haven't used for a while: Use large plastic lids, as from coffee cans to hold liquid foods on the dryer trays.  It is easier to measure a food and estimate how much one wants to use as a "serving,' then use the lids to keep portions separated.
 
I thought of something else that might grind hard foods: a coffee grinder.  Of course, it will only work for very small batches and it might be better to have one set aside for your food VS coffee.  The coffee oils might not clean out of the grinder well enough to not flavor your food.  Coffee flavor would be OK for me in a milkshake or chocolate pudding, but not in my spaghetti sauce or potatoes.  As Christmas approaches or right afterwards, you may find new grinders in stores at greatly reduced prices.
 
Cheers!
 
Rosaleen
 
Re: more low or no cook foods -- Drying potatoes question
Posted by: "Ken" snwcmpr-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org snwcmpr.rm
Date: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:04 pm ((PST))

I thought of that ... but I only have 1 solid flat tray. (The kind to make
roll-ups)
But, I have 6 trays with small holes.
If this doesn't work, I will mash, dry, then PULVERIZE.

I've been looking at Vitamix, but haven't seen one in a thrift shop, YET!!
I hate to pay full price, but will if I have to, for a really good product.

Ken in NC

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JonB | 1 Dec 2011 16:02
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Dehydrated food storage

 


A question for the group:

How long can dehydrated food be stored in Zip freezer bags?
In the freezer and out?
How about in Food Saver pouches?

I do all my on trail meals in "Zip Lock" freezer bags and add hot water to cook.
I am planning a 2013 PCT thur-hike and I'm wanting to start making some on the meals now as different home cooked meals allow for me to use left overs to dehydrate .... this works well for me for short 10 day trips and collecting the meals up to 4 months in advance but to store them for 12 to 18 mos???

'til later,
Jon (Gandalf)
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> Also, I second the Food Saver and Mason jars full of dehydrated veggies.

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Segraves | 1 Dec 2011 16:56
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Re: Dehydrated food storage

 

Good questions - may I add one more detail? When talking about non-freezer storage, can respondents specify whether they're talking about low or high humidity conditions? In much of the country, in late spring through the summer, especially, anything that can take up water from the air will take up water from the air.

Thanks,

Bill

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> From: JonB <BelcherJD <at> Juno.com>
> Subject: [BackpackingLight] Dehydrated food storage
> To: BackpackingLight-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org
> Date: Thursday, December 1, 2011, 10:02 AM
>
> A question for the group:
>
> How long can dehydrated food be stored in Zip freezer
> bags?
> In the freezer and out?
> How about in Food Saver pouches?
>
> I do all my on trail meals in "Zip Lock" freezer bags and
> add hot water to cook.
> I am planning a 2013 PCT thur-hike and I'm wanting to start
> making some on the meals now as different home cooked meals
> allow for me to use left overs to dehydrate .... this works
> well for me for short 10 day trips and collecting the meals
> up to 4 months in advance but to store them for 12 to 18
> mos???
>
> 'til later,
> Jon (Gandalf)
> "Oh... you would not part an old man from his walking
> stick?"
>
> --- In BackpackingLight-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org,
> Rosaleen Sullivan <rosaleen43 <at> ...> wrote:
>
> > Also, I second the Food Saver and Mason jars full of
> dehydrated veggies.
>
>
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Jerry Goller | 1 Dec 2011 17:14
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Here are my experiences in Utah where "high" humidity is 50% or above. 70%
is tropical. In deep winter at altitude I've had readings as low as 4%.

In a freezer bag and in a freeze I'd say 6 months to a year. If you pack all
the zippys in a moisture proof container they will last for at least 10
years and, if the container is truly moisture proof, up to 20 years just
like the nitrogen filled #10 cans from the manufacturer. On the trail I've
had them last a couple of months, anyway. If someone is shipping you boxes,
as I assume they are, Just have them keep the zippys frozen until time to
ship them.

In the past I've had a shipper that was also a backpacker, had eaten one of
every type of meal they are shipping me, and they have my recipes written
down. That way they can leave the ingredients in bulk moisture proof
containers and assemble the meals just before shipping.

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Good questions - may I add one more detail? When talking about non-freezer
storage, can respondents specify whether they're talking about low or high
humidity conditions? In much of the country, in late spring through the
summer, especially, anything that can take up water from the air will take
up water from the air.

Thanks,

Bill

--- On Thu, 12/1/11, JonB <BelcherJD-3pHRoqE1jC0@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> From: JonB <BelcherJD <at> Juno.com>
> Subject: [BackpackingLight] Dehydrated food storage
> To: BackpackingLight-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org
> Date: Thursday, December 1, 2011, 10:02 AM
>
> A question for the group:
>
> How long can dehydrated food be stored in Zip freezer
> bags?
> In the freezer and out?
> How about in Food Saver pouches?
>
> I do all my on trail meals in "Zip Lock" freezer bags and
> add hot water to cook.
> I am planning a 2013 PCT thur-hike and I'm wanting to start
> making some on the meals now as different home cooked meals
> allow for me to use left overs to dehydrate .... this works
> well for me for short 10 day trips and collecting the meals
> up to 4 months in advance but to store them for 12 to 18
> mos???
>
> 'til later,
> Jon (Gandalf)
> "Oh... you would not part an old man from his walking
> stick?"
>
> --- In BackpackingLight-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org,
> Rosaleen Sullivan <rosaleen43 <at> ...> wrote:
>
> > Also, I second the Food Saver and Mason jars full of
> dehydrated veggies.
>
>
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Robin ... | 1 Dec 2011 21:21
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Re: Why do my own dehydrating???

 

I was wondering if you could give more details about this, Shari. Sounds interesting!
I have never tried dehydrating anything but apples, but am now wanting to purchase a dehydrator. Does anyone have recommendations?  You are welcome to email me off list if this has been hashed out already. I just want a little guidance to get started. Thanks!
 
Robin/LaMadre (who thinks dehydrated carrots, and celery, and such, sound great!)
Oregon coast
 
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Shari wrote:
I've also found that many of the foods I enjoy from my favorite little
mom-and-pop restaurants can be dehydrated. It's a great thing to be
sitting on top of a mountain a thousand miles away from home, eating my
favorite take-out.


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