enoch | 1 Sep 2008 14:36
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6.3 oz spin cast setup - no case req'd


As as followup to a question i posted a several weeks ago about a
lightweight fishing setup - here is what i decided on doing after
some research:

1) 2.5 oz rod

I found a 5 piece, 4' 6" oz rod. Small enuf to fit in a pack & not
require a case.

It is a Shakespeare and says on the case "Travelmate Complete
Fishing Kit". I bought it at the Kittery Trading Post in Kittery
Maine -- search the web and you'll find it.

2) 3.8 oz real

zebco has a 3.8 oz reel. I've not got it in yet, so i can't verify
the weight, but that it what the info says. Link below.

http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-
1_10001_30533____SearchResults

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Jeffrey Zimmerman | 1 Sep 2008 19:00
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Re: October Backpacking

How much driving is this Texan willing to do? I understand when you
say you might not be willing to risk it all in the Weminuche in late
October.

I just received confirmation that the annual pre-season snowfall has
hit the Bitterroots. That is typically followed by four to eight
weeks of gorgeous weather. Drive to Great Falls and turn left, very
easy.

Of course, a similar claim could also be made for the Salmon, or the
Wallowas (outside Joseph, the Eagle Cap). The Trinities, here in
Northern California, should be welcoming intrepid adventurers for
another 60 days. And I understand the upper reaches of the Pecos
("Tha's right, Stranger, on this here side of the Pecos we don'
tolerate that kinda behavior, you best be movin' on.") are beautiful
this time of year.

Isn't there an Ozark National Trail, or similar, down (or, in your
case, over) in Arkansas? I understand it's a pleasant, rolling
route, full of historical points (Civil War, Hatfield and McCoys,
Cherokee Trail of Tears, etc.), but I'll bet there's somebody on this
listserv who knows more than me.

--- In BackpackingLight <at> yahoogroups.com, "Lenny Nichols"
<lnichols <at> ...> wrote:
>
> I usually take a week-long backpacking trip to Colorado in the
> summer. Due to surgeries, that didn't happen this year
> It will be the very end of
> September/beginning of October before I'll be able to go. I
> don't want to deal with a lot of snow, so I'm looking for
> somehwere else. I live in the Austin, Texas area. I'm very
> familiar with Big Bend, Guadalupe Peak, and the Gila
> Wilderness of NM. I'm thinking about going
> to Aldo Leopold in NM, or somewhere in Arkansas (Caney
> Creek Wilderness, maybe?). I've never been to either.
>
> Can anyone make recommendations for Aldo Leopold Wilderness or one
> of the Arkansas Wildernesses?
>
> Thanks, Lenny Nichols

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mitchellarossman | 1 Sep 2008 15:00
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Re: TYVEK

Would TYVEK be suitable for a very lightweight ground cloth for a
fastpack set up? I am trying to shave a few ounces off of the typical
ground cloth.

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Mark Verber | 1 Sep 2008 23:07
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Re: Re: TYVEK

tyvek is commonly used. It's durable, somewhat breathable, highly
water resistant, and pretty light weight. As you noted, it's pretty
cheap... construction sites will often give way groundcloth size
pieces often they finish wrapping a house. The only down side is
that they take up more volume than some options. Another favorite are
the polycryo ground sheets from gossamer gear.

--mark

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> Would TYVEK be suitable for a very lightweight ground cloth for a
> fastpack set up? I am trying to shave a few ounces off of the typical
> ground cloth.
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Mark Liechty | 1 Sep 2008 23:00

Re: Re: TYVEK

mitchellarossman wrote:

> Would TYVEK be suitable for a very lightweight ground cloth for a
fastpack set up? I am trying to shave a few ounces off of the typical
ground cloth

################
I started using Tyvek about a year ago a tip either posted here or
somewhere else on the web (don't remember). My groundsheet has now
been out for at least 20 nights and is doing fine. It is still a bit
crunchy (noise) and I am told I can fix by putting it in the wash a few
times but that is not something I have tested.

About 1/2 my camping is in a tent so I don't always use it but it has
been great when throwing my thermarest on it. Only possible challenge
is that when it gets windy the thing need my pack or a rock or three to
hold it down. I have not put groments in to stake it down and will
probably be considering this when I have nothing better to do.

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glen chappell | 2 Sep 2008 02:07

Re: Re: TYVEK

I use Tyvek most often for my groundcloth in a Tarptent, and on bare  
ground.
I did wash it to soften it up, which worked fine.
I also tried some kite Tyvek because it is lighter. I wonder though  
if it lets some ground moisture through, judging by the condensation  
on the tarp fabric.
Cut a small piece for a vestibule too, it's nice to have a little  
dry, clean spot when you need it.

On Sep 1, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Mark Liechty wrote:

> mitchellarossman wrote:
>
> > Would TYVEK be suitable for a very lightweight ground cloth for a
> fastpack set up? I am trying to shave a few ounces off of the typical
> ground cloth
>
> ################
> I started using Tyvek about a year ago a tip either posted here or
> somewhere else on the web (don't remember). My groundsheet has now
> been out for at least 20 nights and is doing fine. It is still a bit
> crunchy (noise) and I am told I can fix by putting it in the wash a  
> few
> times but that is not something I have tested.
>
> About 1/2 my camping is in a tent so I don't always use it but it has
> been great when throwing my thermarest on it. Only possible challenge
> is that when it gets windy the thing need my pack or a rock or  
> three to
> hold it down. I have not put groments in to stake it down and will
> probably be considering this when I have nothing better to do.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>
> 

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u2highflyer | 2 Sep 2008 02:54
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Re: OKLAHOMA/OUACHITA NATIONAL RECREATION TRAIL

BMD
It was great...except for the thunderstorms rolling into Namba Lake
on the second day! Elevation was a kicker for us but we went to
Puerto Namba on day 1 and Namba Lake on day 2. No fires because
everything was wet, but it was great. Thanks for the advice...we had
a very good time.
DCD
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> DCD, Was just wondering if you got to do the Pecos Wilderness trip
and if so How did it go? Rain? BMD

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steanson | 2 Sep 2008 16:08

Re: October Backpacking

regarding the Ozark Highland Trail in Arkansas...
I've done it (a couple sections...it crosses the state) in November,
and ATTEMPTED the same last month, and I HIGHLY RECOMMEND doing the
trial in late October to early November. No snow, but the leaves all
change and although we just missed the fall in November, the scenery
is supposed to be spectacular. I say attempted because although we
had a spell of cool weather, the sections we were hiking were
completely overgrown, crisscrossed with thorny vines and gotcha
bushes...dead trees blocked the trail (I can count 4 in as many
miles), and they happened to all be too high to easily hop over and
too low to scamper under with a backpack. We joked about getting a
machete before the trip when we came across one at Wallyworld...on the
trail we just gave one another a knowing look of "we shoulda got that
machete". One more thing early in the season...ticks and chiggers. I
will add the most recent pic of my eaten legs...and we've been back
for half a month now...I am still healing, and I didn't get it half as
bad as my friend. Look for my pics in the photo section under OHT.
That being said, if you DO decide to try it (I am certain there are
other sections WAY MORE accessible), do yourself a favor and buy Tim
Earnst's book Ozark Highland Trail...he is the foremost expert on
Arkansas trails, has several books, and the books will guide you step
by step along the way...so well you could replace your map with his
directions. (never replace your map) ;) and the new edition also has
GPS waypoints.
Coming from Texas, though, you may wanna try this one: EAGLE ROCK LOOP
in the Ouachitas...closer, and way less rugged (though challenging in
sections) and plenty of water.
Anyway, once again I am long winded...Take care and good luck!

-Steanson

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Anthea Michaelis | 2 Sep 2008 16:33

Squeaky Boots

Anyone have any answers for squeaky boots? I have a pair of Vasque
boots which are still squeaking after a couple of months wear. I have used
them in the past with great success and bought two pairs on sale and both
pairs squeak. I have superfeet inserts, orange ones this time in place of
my usual green ones, but i don't think that's doing it.
Anthea

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Joseph Knapp | 2 Sep 2008 16:54
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Re: Squeaky Boots

Do they squeak when the insole is removed? If yes, then that's your answer.

--- On Tue, 9/2/08, Anthea Michaelis <anthea <at> michaelis.net> wrote:

From: Anthea Michaelis <anthea <at> michaelis.net>
Subject: [BackpackingLight] Squeaky Boots
To: BackpackingLight <at> yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 10:33 AM

Anyone have any answers for squeaky boots? I have a pair of Vasque
boots which are still squeaking after a couple of months wear. I have used
them in the past with great success and bought two pairs on sale and both
pairs squeak. I have superfeet inserts, orange ones this time in place of
my usual green ones, but i don't think that's doing it.
Anthea

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