Sorry, to hear about your experience, did you have the
new BV lid( RED Labeled) Its the latest version of the
BV350 /400 lids. The old ones were easy to open, we
had 5-6 different cases of bears opening them in 2005
in SEKI.

--- patrickpdk <pkee-PjAqaU27lzQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> My brother and I were hiking in the High Peaks area
> of the Adirondacks
> the first week of September. That's bear country so
> we brought 2
> BV400s. The very first night we were in the active
> bear area of the
> park both of our bear canisters were broken into
> with ease. The bear
> knew how to open the canisters just as well as we
> did! The bear bit
> directly on the tab that you push in to screw the
> lid off! She ate
> 30,000 calories (5 days supplies for my brother and
> I) and left a big
> pile of crap for us in the morning!
>
> This occurred because the bear was living in a high
> traffic area of
> course, however, I feel that the design of the
> canister is simple
> enough that bears can learn to open it by biting and
> twisting
> accidentally.
>
> The bear vault company is redesigning the lid
> because of this bear but
> the new lid works in a similar manner. So be warned
> - the specs on
> these canisters (weight, capacity) are good but they
> didn't even
> resist the bear we encountered!
>
> -pat
>
>

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I would go with garlic. Garlic kills many types of pathogens. Do a
search. Make toast, butter it and chop a few cloves of garlic and
put it on. Put it in almost any food. make a pesto with lots of
garlic.

GB

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"davedbkerr" <davedbkerr <at> ...> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> I have been diagnosed to have a Giardia Infestation, whoopeee!
Mucho
> gas etc. and missed heart beats too!
> And so careful I have been for so long.
>
> Anyone have any personal experience with remedies that can cure one
of
> these 'critters'? Preferably 'natural alternative therapies' that
> have worked? Also, drug cure experiences would be interesting as
a
> last resort, as I am rather sensitive to medical drugs. Anyone
have
> difficult side effects to certain drugs used?
>
> I did a quick look to see if this topic has already been covered,
but
> didn't see anything. Did I miss it somehow?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> DB Kerr
>

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There has been a big discussion about this since I started a thread in
an Adirondack Forum. I bear started to work on our BV400. It appears
there are one or two bears in the Marcy dam area of the High peaks that
has figured out how to get into these kegs. Bear Vault has prototypes
on in circulation with the rangers in the area now. Upon successful
testing they will be releasing the new lids in the spring.

The thread can be found here:

http://www.adkforum.com/showthread.php?t=6934

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Mt Scott/Wichita Wildlife Area just north of Lawton. Not sure how far it is
but I have had lots of fun having the boys hike this area.

Tallihina Oklahoma has the Ouchita Trailhead, so that might be another idea,
and since you can hike down to the trail from several places on the scenic
drive they can do the scenic drive and you hike back to the trailhead.

Down in Texas they are foreigners that must be avoided. Of course, I come
home from scouting and find that CU beat the Sooners so maybe Texas has a
chance this year.

On 9/29/07, gordon_human <gordon.human <at> sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> I am visiting relatives over Xmas, just N of Dallas (Carrolton). I
> suspect after a couple of days I shall get a little jaded, so am
> thinking maybe I can do a lightweight overnighter with my tarp, bivi
> and sleeping bag somewhere nearby. Doesn't have to be an enormous
> thing, just something to get me out of an armchair for a day or two. I
> don't want to oblige my hosts to drive me 100's of miles to drop
> off/collect me. Oh and ideally terrain should not be too hard - I have
> an arthritic knee.
>
> I can probably get hold of a decent mtn bike if needed and if it opens
> up my options - the knee is Ok with biking.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks, Gordon
>
>
>

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Hi Gordon,
The Wichita Mountains and Ouachita Mountains, both in Oklahoma, are
great, but are 3 to 4 hours away. There is a short, 2-3 mile, easy
trail in Mineral Wells State park about 1.5 hours west of Carrollton.
The primitive camping area is a short hike, but it does get you out of
the city. This trail is on the west side of the lake and there is a
rocky area on the east side of the lake where you can do some climbing
and rapelling. This area is called Penitentiary Hollow. This area is
also kinda fun just to walk around and explore. Best of luck on your
trip.
Robert

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/spdest/findadest/parks/lake_mineral_wells/

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On 9/29/07, E.L. Green <eric <at> badtux.com> wrote:

> What about footwear, is there any way to use lightweight footwear in a situation where you
> might be walking in a foot of snow?

I'd say that depends on what you mean by light-weight footwear. I
routinely do winter snowshoe backpacks in light-weight hiking boots,
but they are boots, not trail running shoes. I use tall gaiters to
keep snow out of the top of the boots. I find the boots plenty warm
during the day while hiking/snowshoeing, then in camp I switch the
boots for a fleece bootie with a nylon overboot (for the life of me I
can't remember who makes these, but they are toasty warm around camp).
--
~~~~~
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I'm with Don. If you're willing to share, I'd love to know what type of water purification system you use and where you believe you picked up the bug.

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Hello All,

I have been diagnosed to have a Giardia Infestation, whoopeee! Mucho
gas etc. and missed heart beats too!
And so careful I have been for so long.

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