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Thomas Travis | 1 Oct 2005 16:31
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Re: Re: Broad shouldered lightweight sleeping pads...

I had Stephensen make me 2 DAM pads. Even with the wider, longer version 
there is still that arms falling off problem that is very noticeable due to 
the 3 1/2" thickness of the pad. If you look at their diagram of the pad, 
you notice that the taper starts right at the shoulder, so the wider version 
doesn't help much to keep your arms on the mattress with the rest of you. I 
still have to use my boots and extra clothing to prop up my arms.
When I got my first DAM, I noticed right away that the down seemed a bit 
sparse. Stephensen assured me that this was by design and the mat is good to 
50 below as is. You just need to "pat" the down around to distribute it 
some. I sent the pad back to get a wider longer version and had them add 2-3 
ounces of overfill to do away with the patting thing. The new mat has enough 
down that it will partly self inflate if you prop the filler cap open and 
give it a little time. It weighs right at 2#. My arms still fall off, but I 
figure I am good to 100 below, give or take.
By the way, Stephenson's is a very nice company to do business with, right 
up there with Henry Shires. I highly recomend them. Just remember to order 
way in advance of when you need the gear.
Tom
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From: "photonstove" <djohnston@...>
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Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 10:55 AM
Subject: [BackpackingLight] Re: Broad shouldered lightweight sleeping 
pads...

>I can't check the site from work so I am not sure but it is possible
> the Stevenson Down Air Mmattress (DAM) is available in more than one
> width.
>
> There used to be a pad called the Mt Washington II. This is a closed
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jvw47 | 1 Oct 2005 16:57

Re: Broad shouldered lightweight sleeping pads...

David, my suggestion would be to get one of Ed Speer's 
Segmented Pad Extenders at

<http://www.speerhammocks.com/Products/SPE.htm>

The 2x2 version is $35 and will add 10" to your pad's width.
Jay

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> I am looking for a sleeping pad similar to a Big Agnes 
Insulated Air
> Core Regular pad, but WIDER. I know it will weigh more, but I 
am tired
> of my arms slipping off the edges of my pad. I currently put a 
shirt,
> or pair of pants along either side under my arms. Have I 
mentioned I
> am built like a bouncer? 
> 
> Hey gear manufacturers! (some of you DO read this list) there 
are a
> good number of us backpackers that are NOT 5'8" and 160lbs.
> Backpacking gear, like packs, sleeping bags, sleeping pads, 
should fit
> the user, not the other way around! (Tall guys fuss about this 
stuff too).
> 
> There is a reason I bought a Sirius 3 as a 2 person tent...
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do | 1 Oct 2005 17:15

Re: Broad shouldered lightweight sleeping pads..

I have some 1/4" pads for sale that many use for hammocks and they weight 7 
oz and are 40x60".
Some folks used them to augment other pads for extra thickness or width too. 

Dave

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Terriann McGlenn | 1 Oct 2005 05:00
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RE: Re: Broad shouldered lightweight sleeping pads...

I believe Nunatak carries the Mt Washington II equivalent.  Their site
is www.nunatakusa.com.  I don't know the width right now but I laid on
it last weekend when I ordered on of their bags (custom) and it was very
comfortable.  I'm a larger women who appreciates comfort as much as the
next guy.

Good luck,
T

-----Original Message-----
    From: "photonstove" 
    There used to be a pad called the Mt Washington II. This is a closed

    cell pad so it isn't exactly what you are looking for.

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Yellow Jacket | 1 Oct 2005 21:34
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Flushing Seychelle in-line filter...

I just purchased a Seychelle in-line filter and after reading the
instructions I'm completely confused.

...
Important!  Prior to initial use, the filter must be flushed thoroughly.

1) Remove the white rubber primer blub [YJ:  From what, the bag?]
2) Securely attached large opening of white rubber primer bulb over
your faucet by pushing the bulb up as far as it will go.
3) Take the removable filter and push its threaded shank onto the
small available opening of the primer bulb securely. [YJ: First
nothing is threaded, but I assume they mean one of the barbed
fittings.  But which one?  Input?  Output?]
4) Turn cold water on SLOWLY, using medium water pressure, until water
is flowing out of the filter.  Allow water to run for approximately 1
minute to thoroughly flush filter prior to initial use of system.
5) Replace removable filter into in-line system and use
6) Store white rubber primer for future use.

IMPORTANT: After extended use repeat steps 1-6.  This process will
back flush [YJ:  I guess this means in step #3 they want me to hook-up
to the output???] and will prolong the lift of the in-line filter
unit.
...

I tried step #3 attached to both the input and output but never saw
any water come out the other side.  I had my faucet running as slow as
it would go without the output turning into a drip.  Yet, the bulb
would still pop-off.
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Don Ladigin | 1 Oct 2005 21:34
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Hello everyone,

With the passing of another month, it's time for our regular monthly 
message. As days shorten and it becomes colder here in the western 
hemisphere many of us will continue our hikes into the autumn months, 
and plan next summer's lightweight hiking adventures. We envy our 
members in the southern hemisphere who will soon be in their prime 
hiking season! 

This group has two absolute requirements;

1) Stay on topic.
We ask that you only post messages about our subject, which is light 
and ultralight backpacking. This is not a catch-all or chat group for 
discussing any other subjects, no matter how interesting or they may 
be.

2) Keep all posts civil and respectful.
There are extremely accomplished hikers here as well as newbies, and 
we welcome questions and commments about lightweight hiking from all 
of you. 

This is a friendly group, and quarreling is not permitted. Honest, 
forthright, reasoned discussion is welcomed and encouraged, but 
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Rich | 1 Oct 2005 22:19
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Re: Monthly message from your moderators

>  We envy our 
> members in the southern hemisphere who will soon be in their prime 
> hiking season! 

You must really envy me as it is *always* prime hiking season in Hawaii:-)

Rich

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Yellow Jacket | 1 Oct 2005 23:54
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Re: Flushing Seychelle in-line filter...

On 10/1/05, Yellow Jacket <yellowjacketlite@...> wrote:
> I just purchased a Seychelle in-line filter and after reading the
> instructions I'm completely confused.

I'm beginning to think I have a dud.  I submerged the filter unit
under water for over an hour and then repeated the flush, and then
back flush, procedure.  Nothing.  Not a drop of water passed through. 
Next I attached a full bladder to the filter (removed all air) and
then proceeded to lean on the bladder for a few minutes.  Again,
nothing pass through.

Right now I have it rigged up in a gravity filter arrangement (2' of
hose above the filter input and a full 2L bladder attached and all air
in the system removed).  Not a drop after 30-45 minutes.

I removed the filter component and water flows fine, so I suspect the
filter component is somehow clogged or "sealed".

Any other suggestions before I exchange it?
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Yellow Jacket

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Ken and/or Linda Maddox | 2 Oct 2005 01:53

Re: Digest Number 5333

On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 06:54:35 Lauralee Bliss <lrbliss2001@...> wrote:

> 
> --- In BackpackingLight@..., Yellow Jacket
> <yellowjacketlite <at> g...> wrote:
>> I'm looking for a light (duh!) container than can
> hold 4-6L of water
>> and have some means to hang it from a tree branch.
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> 
> I have used the Sterns Water sack, 2 1/2 gallon capacity with a spigot and a
> handle that allows you to hang it from a tree branch. The only thing is the
> spigot tends to leak after a season of use but it's cheap to replace. The bag
> costs 8.99 at Campmor. I like it, esp if there's several in the party.
> 
> Blissful
-----------------------
1. Buy a five-liter box of wine (on sale for under $10).
2. Send it to me.  I'll send back the five-liter bladder.
3. Take a couple of plastic grocery sacks (or as many as give you comfort);
poke a hole through the layer of them at the appropriate place.
4. Pull spout/plug from bladder and fill with water.
5. Insert bladder in sacks, with spout protruding from the hole.  Hang as
desired.

Ken "Anything I can do to help" Maddox
Hood River, Oregon, USA

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Yellow Jacket | 2 Oct 2005 03:05
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Re: Flushing Seychelle in-line filter...

On 10/1/05, Yellow Jacket <yellowjacketlite@...> wrote:
> On 10/1/05, Yellow Jacket <yellowjacketlite@...> wrote:
> > I just purchased a Seychelle in-line filter and after reading the
> > instructions I'm completely confused.
>
> I'm beginning to think I have a dud.

But wait, there's more...

After looking at this picture (http://tinyurl.com/d2ly9), I realized
my filter core does not have the outer (first) layer of filter
material (shown as a lighter color in the link).  Only the black inner
material.

So, I'm guessing mine is a manufacturer defect.
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