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JimSabis | 1 Dec 2002 01:14
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Re: Rain/Wind pants

In a message dated 11/30/2002 4:34:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
drsm@... writes:

> After my late October hike-in-the-rain in the Smoky's, I'm looking for a 
> pair of waterproof pants to carry in place of my wind pants. I use a poncho 
> for rain, but when the temps drop below 50, I would like something that 
> also covers the legs. Any thoughts?
> 
> 

Marmot Precip pants work well, are reasonably rugged, inexpensive and light 
at 7 oz.

I have a pair I might be willing to sell. I've used them twice. I like them, 
but they are too short for my 34" inseam.

My other (much heavier duty) pants are Arc Teryx Beta LT's. Really excellent 
fit (ordered tall size) and rugged while still reasonably light. but *very* 
expensive and certain overkill for warm weather conditions.

Jim S.

Jim S.

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Jonathan Guessford | 1 Dec 2002 01:30
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Re: I hate to open this Pandora's box.. but.. *creeek*

I use only the large pan which holds 40 ounces and I made a lid  from 
aluminum flashing with a thumb screw handle that weighs .4 ounces. The lid 
seats tight enough to pick the pot up by the thumb screw with two and a half 
cups of water in it. The total weight for the lid and pan is 5.4 ounces. So 
as you see I carry less weight than if  I was carrying the snow peak Trek 
1400. I could purchase the snow peak and make my own lid and I suppose it 
would be a bit lighter but than again so would my wallet!

>From: Alex Tweedly <alex@...>
>Reply-To: BackpackingLight@...
>To: BackpackingLight@...,BackpackingLight <at> yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [BackpackingLight] I hate to open this Pandora's box..  but.. 
>*creeek*
>Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 22:27:58 +0000
>
>At 02:45 30/11/2002 -0500, Jonathan Guessford wrote:
> >The gsi hard anodized double boiler set weighs less than titanium and 
>costs
> >about $16 US. Check them out on the gsi web page I love mine.
>
>By all accounts, it's a great pan - but how does it "weigh less than
>titanium" ?
>
>The Snow Peak Trek 1400 is similar in size, but approx 12% lighter.
>     similar means : bigger pan (24% larger) and smaller "lid" (about 20%
>smaller).
>
>So it's easy to see the GSI as better value at just over 1/3rd the price -
>but it doesn't seem to weigh less that comparable titanium gear.
>
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J Cornelius | 1 Dec 2002 01:35
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Re: Rain/Wind pants

is that offer to sell open to anyone??  I'd be interested
Jodi

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Date: Saturday, November 30, 2002 7:15:00 PM
To: BackpackingLight@...
Subject: Re: [BackpackingLight] Rain/Wind pants

In a message dated 11/30/2002 4:34:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
drsm@... writes:

> After my late October hike-in-the-rain in the Smoky's, I'm looking for a 
> pair of waterproof pants to carry in place of my wind pants. I use a
poncho 
> for rain, but when the temps drop below 50, I would like something that 
> also covers the legs. Any thoughts?
> 
> 

Marmot Precip pants work well, are reasonably rugged, inexpensive and light 
at 7 oz.

I have a pair I might be willing to sell. I've used them twice. I like them,

but they are too short for my 34" inseam.

My other (much heavier duty) pants are Arc Teryx Beta LT's. Really excellent
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David &AdamSchwartz | 1 Dec 2002 01:37
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Re: Re: Sportsmans guide pack


> I always add a strap to any pack that doesn't come
> with one to give me an 
> easy way to hang it up.  This keeps me from having
> to lean over to get things 
> out and also keeps the pack cleaner since it is up
> off the ground.  No - I 
> don't carry the pack with the "handle" but it does
> also help when loading it 
> in the car or a trailer.
> 
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Thanks.--I-still-have-a-lot-rto-learn.
Adam

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David &AdamSchwartz | 1 Dec 2002 01:31
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Re: Torso Length

--- dladigin <dladigin@...> wrote:
> David &AdamSchwartz <schwrtz5@...> wrote:
> > How-do-you-measure-torso-exactly?
> 
> Hi Adam,
> 
> You'll need someone to help with this. Use a
> flexable tape measure. 
> The torso length is the length along the spine from
> the bony bump at 
> the base of the back of the neck (technically the
> top of the 7th 
> cervical vertebrae) down to the highest point of the
> hipbone (the top 
> of the pelvic girdle.) That hipbone point will be
> found at the top of 
> the sides of the hips, and it needs to be
> transferred to the spine 
> for measuring. Most people (and backpacks) fall in
> the ranges 
> indicated in the following table.   Best,  Don L.
>  
> extra small  14"-15 1/2"
> small        16"-17 1/2"
> medium       18"-19 1/2"
> large        20" plus 
------------------------------------
 Thanks.
=)
Adam
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Gregg Spoering | 1 Dec 2002 01:27
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Re: Re: featherlight vs dragonfly

Thanks Carol, I guess that's why the Dragonfly seems to be the most
coveted jacket.
Best,
Gregg

cmcrooker wrote:

>  Gregg,
> A while back Photon did a comparison and wrote in to BPL.  I had a
> copy on file so here it is again....
>
> Message 60397 of 60421  |  Previous | Next  [ Up Thread ]
>                   Message Index          Msg #
>
> From:  Don Johnston <djohnston@...>
> Date:  Sun Aug 25, 2002  1:54 pm
> Subject:  Photon test - Light breathable shells
>
> Time for a Photon test.
> Why the test: Wondered about water penetration, saturation, water
> resistance and drying speed. My Dragonfly has been trying to make me
> think it is useful in wider variety of conditions than other shell
> layers I have tried. I wanted to subject several items to the same
> tests to see how they compare side by side.
>
> Tested:
> 1) Montane Featherlite smock - Pertex not certain which. Microlite?
> This model is currently available.
>
> 2) Patagonia Dragonfly pullover - 0.95-oz. 15-denier nylon fabric
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BenSimms | 1 Dec 2002 01:43
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Re: Rain/Wind pants

Jerry,
       As one who was involved in the early testing of the RainShield suits, 
I can attest to their excellent water shedding ability and their extreme 
light weight.  I feel that it is important to note for anyone contemplating a 
purchase that these garments are somewhat suceptible to snags (especially the 
lightweight 2 layer material) and it can be troublesome to put pants on over 
shoes or boots since none I've ever seen in the RainShield line have zippers 
or velcro openings at the bottom of the legs.  This feature by the way was 
one of my suggestions to RainShield which wasn't accepted by them.
       Ben

In a message dated 30-Nov-02 17:51:19 Eastern Standard Time, 
jerrygoller@... writes:

> Good one, they, and Rain Shields, are also reviewed on BGT.
> Jerry

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BenSimms | 1 Dec 2002 01:46
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Re: Re: Sportsmans guide pack

In a message dated 30-Nov-02 19:39:37 Eastern Standard Time, 
schwrtz5@... writes:

> I always add a strap to any pack that doesn't come
> > with one to give me an 
> > easy way to hang it up.  This keeps me from having
> > to lean over to get things 
> > out and also keeps the pack cleaner since it is up
> > off the ground.  No - I 
> > don't carry the pack with the "handle" but it does
> > also help when loading it 
> > in the car or a trailer.
> > 
> ------
> Thanks.--I-still-have-a-lot-rto-learn.
> Adam
> 
Never quit learning!
       Ben

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Jonathan Guessford | 1 Dec 2002 01:56
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Re: I hate to open this Pandora's box.. but.. *creeek*

By the way I belive that the trekk pot holds 47 ounces making it only about 
17.5% larger than the gsi......lol

>From: Alex Tweedly <alex@...>
>Reply-To: BackpackingLight@...
>To: BackpackingLight@...,BackpackingLight <at> yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [BackpackingLight] I hate to open this Pandora's box..  but.. 
>*creeek*
>Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 22:27:58 +0000
>
>At 02:45 30/11/2002 -0500, Jonathan Guessford wrote:
> >The gsi hard anodized double boiler set weighs less than titanium and 
>costs
> >about $16 US. Check them out on the gsi web page I love mine.
>
>By all accounts, it's a great pan - but how does it "weigh less than
>titanium" ?
>
>The Snow Peak Trek 1400 is similar in size, but approx 12% lighter.
>     similar means : bigger pan (24% larger) and smaller "lid" (about 20%
>smaller).
>
>So it's easy to see the GSI as better value at just over 1/3rd the price -
>but it doesn't seem to weigh less that comparable titanium gear.
>
>-- Alex.
>
>
>
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JimSabis | 1 Dec 2002 02:03
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Re: Rain/Wind pants

In a message dated 11/30/2002 7:36:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
dojers@... writes:

> is that offer to sell open to anyone??  I'd be interested
> Jodi
> 
> 

Sure - contact me off list.

Jim S.

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