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Kammerer, Eric | 28 Aug 2002 21:57
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RE: NB 904

My wife got a pair for our last hike, her first in trail runners. She liked
them better than her boots, especially the fit. She has narrow heels and a
wide forefoot which the wider NB shoes seem to handle well. Her only
complaint is endemic to shoes in general -- too much sand in the shoes.
Since you're already used to trail runners, that shouldn't be a problem.

Eric
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Shon Stephens | 28 Aug 2002 22:24

gvp g4 pics

can anyone send me some digital pics of their g4 from muliple angles and some close-ups of the straps, strap
connection points, pad-holders, and side pockets?

thanks,
shon
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rhd101 | 28 Aug 2002 22:26
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Re: RE: NB 904

Has she tried using low gaiters for keeping sand out?

john

In a message dated 8/28/02 2:59:05 PM,
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>too much sand in the shoes
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David Chinell | 28 Aug 2002 22:59
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RE: PUR filter, opinions please...

I've owned and used one for almost two years. Works great.
Easy to pump. The
setup makes it pretty easy to manage the hoses etc.

Bear
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James R Bennett | 28 Aug 2002 23:01
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Re: gvp g4 pics

have you gone to gvpgear.com  ?
also, keep in mind that you can order a pack to suit your needs.
-han

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> shon
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Todd Pytel | 29 Aug 2002 00:34
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Re: PUR filter, opinions please...

tom_paines_ghost wrote:

> http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?
> productId=2298&storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&langId=-1
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> On sale at REI for $47. What are peoples experience with this filter?

The Hiker is the standby pump filter for solos/small groups not 
requiring massive capacity, viral purification, or total field 
maintainability. Lots and lots of people (myself included) have used 
them happily. Good flow rate, very easy pump, relatively light, and a 
clogged filter can at least be temporarily cleared in the field.

Of course, grav-feed filters and chemicals are other options, but the 
Hiker is a safe way to go with a pump unless you have special needs. The 
price is definitely good - I'm surprised it's on sale. Perhaps PUR is 
releasing a new model soon?

Todd
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engr_38 | 29 Aug 2002 00:44

speaking of nut cases......

There exists an excellent critical review of Ray Jardine book "beyond 
backpacking" at www.backpackinglight.com/index/article.asp?did=103.
The author takes a critical look at some of the wild claims made by 
Jardine such as miles you can hike given your pack weight, use your 
inner positive energy  vibrations (like Neddie Flanders) to repell 
bugs, trekking pole accumulated weight, total loft loss of sleeping 
bags, ability to see at night and other such nonsense. What 
studies/emperical data does he base these claims?  By the way Ray 
Jardine claims to have recieved and engineering dergee from Northorp 
University. Well that is not a real engineering University. It is 
like Eaton technical Instute or Truckmasters. To claim he is an 
engineer is like a chiropractor touting he is a Doctor.
keith
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dladigin | 29 Aug 2002 01:35

Re: PUR filter, opinions please...

"tom_paines_ghost" <tom_paines_ghost@...> wrote: 
> On sale at REI for $47. What are peoples experience with this 
filter?

This is a superb filter, and I only hope that Katadyn, which absorbed 
PUR in July of last year, will continue to market the Hiker model, 
which is a pleasure to use.

A replacement Hiker element alone is usually $30, so the $47 price 
tag is a real bargain. If you don't buy one, you should buy two! :^) 
Really, it's a great filter!   Regards,  Don L.
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cruzrguy | 29 Aug 2002 01:59
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Re: speaking of nut cases......

I enjoyed Beyond Backpacking...it certainly was key in tipping over 
some of my "sacred (backpacking)cows".  I have a lot of respect for 
Jardine.  I also took some of what was in the book with a grain of 
salt.  Some of his methods never will work for me.  I am glad to see 
this critical review and I am looking forward to reading it.  I 
printed it out and I'll fold it in half and I'll store it in my copy 
of Beyond Backpacking.  From what I read so far it looks to be a 
good review.  

Thanks for providing it...although I think you are being a bit too 
harsh to refer to Jarding as a "nut case".  He deserves more respect 
than that.

Tracy 

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> There exists an excellent critical review of Ray Jardine 
book "beyond 
> backpacking" at www.backpackinglight.com/index/article.asp?did=103.
> The author takes a critical look at some of the wild claims made 
by 
> Jardine such as miles you can hike given your pack weight, use 
your 
> inner positive energy  vibrations (like Neddie Flanders) to repell 
> bugs, trekking pole accumulated weight, total loft loss of 
sleeping 
> bags, ability to see at night and other such nonsense. What 
> studies/emperical data does he base these claims?  By the way Ray 
> Jardine claims to have recieved and engineering dergee from 
Northorp
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wksmith1000 | 29 Aug 2002 02:06
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Dancing Light Gear Ultralight Rain Pants

Late Sat. night (around 11 PM) I ordered a pair of ultralight sil-
nylon rain pants and two bottle holders from Dancing Light Gear & 
Crafts by sending an email from the website.  I paid with PayPal.
http://www.trailquest.net/
I received an USPS Priority Mail package today (Wed.) with my order 
inside.  Man, that was fast.  They advertised up to a four week wait 
for the pants since they sew them up after you order.

The website advertised weights of 2 to 2.5 oz for the pants and 0.5 
oz for the included stuffbag.  Weights on my scale for size 37" hip, 
30" inseam was 2.4 oz for the pants and 0.2 oz for the 4.5" x 7.5" 
sil-nylon stuffbag.
These are basic no frills (no zippers, flys, or venting) ultralight 
waterproof rain pants with elastic around the leg cuffs and waist.  
The waist elastic has a nice cordlock adjustment.  The sewing was of 
good quality.  I'm very pleased with the pants.  I plan on using them 
this winter in cold rainly conditions.  In the summer they would be 
too hot, but who needs rain pants in the summer.
If you order a set of these pants, read the sizing info VERY 
carefully.  They sent me the size I ordered and they are almost too 
tight.  They fit well but I thought I was ordering oversize.  We guys 
aren't used to ordering by HIP size.  :) 

The bottle holders are coated nylon bags sized to hold 1 L water 
bottles with 1" webbing sewn on the top edge to make a side loop and 
another loop on the bottom.  A drawstring with cordlock will close 
the bags around the body of the bottle.  Good rugged bags.  Weight on 
my scale was 0.7 oz each.  I plan to use them on my pack shoulder 
straps.
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