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ypsyculman | 1 Sep 2008 12:21
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Re: Who uses a vest to boost sleep systems warmth?

Your question:
Does any one hear have experience using vests for making a bag or
 quilt or pod warmer, and if so, how helpful was it? Do you feel that
 it is a lot of warmth for the weight, or not so much?
 Thanks
 Bill

REPLY:
Greetings Bill,

Yes, I use bib ski pants, and a quilted polyester vest for temps down 
to the high 30's. 
With only a fleece hoodie, (or parka/windbreaker), and double wool 
socks, and lite fleece blanket. Always a double space blanket under 
my HH SS, any time of year. The ski pants, and vest are inexpensive, 
and, compress down quite well. This combination allows good movement 
inside the hammock, and also getting up at night.  Neither items are 
expensive, purchased at discount stores, or off season, but, would 
sure use down if I could afford it. 

John

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Chuck Kime | 2 Sep 2008 18:31
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Fuzzy Update

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> Subject: Fuzzy
> To: chuck_kime <at> yahoo.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 11:47 AM
> All,
> 
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C C Wayah | 3 Sep 2008 03:49
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Fw: motorcycle or bicycle kayak


For anyone interested
There is a website for making a fold up inflatable Kayak
that weighs in at around 18 pounds.
That can be used in combination for a road trip 
Cycle, Hammock, backpack,  boat
pure heaven..

Rogene
Just go down to the motorcycle transport section.

http://yostwerks.com/InflatableMain.html

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Arye P. R. | 3 Sep 2008 17:31
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Re: Fw: motorcycle or bicycle kayak

that's nice. But what I really need is a set of pontoons, a drive system and a tiller for the rudders (for
steering). that can be carried on and  attached to the bike so one can 'cycle on water'.... and 2 masts to set a
hammock on. I figure being able to do 30 knots will suffice as there is more than enough power for that from
the cycle.

 Sapere Aude,

Arye P. Rubenstein

Imagination is more important than knowledge...
It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education... Albert Einstein

----- Original Message ----
From: C C Wayah <ccwayah@...>
To: hammockcamping@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2008 8:49:58 PM
Subject: [Hammock Camping] Fw: motorcycle or bicycle kayak

For anyone interested
There is a website for making a fold up inflatable Kayak
that weighs in at around 18 pounds.
That can be used in combination for a road trip 
Cycle, Hammock, backpack,  boat
pure heaven..

Rogene
Just go down to the motorcycle transport section.

http://yostwerks. com/InflatableMa in.html
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Ralph Oborn | 3 Sep 2008 18:54
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Re: Fw: motorcycle or bicycle kayak

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Arye P. R. <aprarye@...> wrote:

> that's nice. But what I really need is a set of pontoons, a drive system
> and a tiller for the rudders (for steering). that can be carried on and
>  attached to the bike so one can 'cycle on water'.... and 2 masts to set a
> hammock on. I figure being able to do 30 knots will suffice as there is more
> than enough power for that from the cycle.
>
>  Sapere Aude,

30 knots is pretty fast

35 mph or 55 kph

This is faster than the QE II on transatlantic crossings.

Ralph

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Arye P. R. <aprarye@...> wrote:

> that's nice. But what I really need is a set of pontoons, a drive system
> and a tiller for the rudders (for steering). that can be carried on and
>  attached to the bike so one can 'cycle on water'.... and 2 masts to set a
> hammock on. I figure being able to do 30 knots will suffice as there is more
> than enough power for that from the cycle.
>
>  Sapere Aude,
>
> Arye P. Rubenstein
>
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Arye P. R. | 3 Sep 2008 21:06
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Re: Fw: motorcycle or bicycle kayak

that's 30 top speed I'll run at 15-20. 
Power to weight ratio I venture is much lower for the QE or any other cruse ships. I want to get there in
daylight. The motorcycle is 600# and has some 60+HP.  I'm figuring two pontoons and some rollers to xfer
power from the rear wheel to one or two props. one more thing... either totally self contained with a
trailer or NO trailer as I'll have no where to park it when cruising the Caribbean. 
Otherwise I'll go for a 35-45ft multihull with a place to park the bike on deck.

Sapere Aude,

Arye P. Rubenstein

Imagination is more important than knowledge...
It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education... Albert Einstein

----- Original Message ----
From: Ralph Oborn <Ralph.oborn@...>
To: hammockcamping@...
Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2008 11:54:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] Fw: motorcycle or bicycle kayak

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Arye P. R. <aprarye <at> ameritech. net> wrote:

> that's nice. But what I really need is a set of pontoons, a drive system
> and a tiller for the rudders (for steering). that can be carried on and
>  attached to the bike so one can 'cycle on water'.... and 2 masts to set a
> hammock on. I figure being able to do 30 knots will suffice as there is more
> than enough power for that from the cycle.
>
>  Sapere Aude,
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kwpapke | 4 Sep 2008 03:14
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Re: Who uses a vest to boost sleep systems warmth?

--- In hammockcamping@..., "ypsyculman" <ypsyculman <at> ...>
wrote:

> Always a double space blanket under my HH SS, any time of year.

??? I am a diehard SB user over the Underpad of my HH Supershelter,
but have not heard of using a *double* SB before.

How and why do you use two?

--Kurt

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ypsyculman | 4 Sep 2008 23:39
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Re: Who uses a vest to boost sleep systems warmth?

 Always a double space blanket under my HH SS, any time of year.

 ??? I am a diehard SB user over the Underpad of my HH Supershelter,
 but have not heard of using a *double* SB before.

 How and why do you use two?

Kurt

REPLY:
Two SB's taped together, one on the other with packing tape around 
the edges makes them  more durable, and, adds a little stiffness, so 
it stays put better.It moves around to cover the entry opening quite 
easily.  The SB is much larger than the hammock at the head end, and 
folds out between the hammock and over the undercover. It does not 
however add any heat advantage. A small piece of something (like the 
yellow pack towel) under the hips may be needed to absorb moisture 
from condensation that is easily transfered there from compression. 

I had origonally tried getting into the taped together SB's. As you 
can guess, it didn't take long to become very wet from condensation. 
I plan to try using a SB on top on my next trip, with a lite fleece 
blanket. 

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kwpapke | 6 Sep 2008 19:26
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Re: Who uses a vest to boost sleep systems warmth?

Thanks for explaining how you've used 2 SB's together.

--- In hammockcamping@..., "ypsyculman" <ypsyculman <at> ...>
wrote:
> I plan to try using a SB on top on my next trip, with a lite fleece 
> blanket.

I suspect this will perform similarly to when you slept between the
taped SB's, i.e. act as a vapor barrier and you will have condensation
problems.

--Kurt

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Cara Lin Bridgman | 8 Sep 2008 04:00

JRB nests & Hennessey Hammock at 3500 m and 0-10*C

Just finished a 5-day trip in which 4 of the nights were at >3400 m 
(11,000 ft)in elevation.  Nighttime lows were 0-10*C (32-50*F).  Being 
cold in the hammock was not necessarily correlated with temperature. 
There was a huge correlation with getting the right fit between JRB nest 
and the HH.  In fact, I had to tinker with the adjustments (quilt 
drawstrings and bungees) several times each night--no such thing as 
getting the thing adjusted once and having it work for the whole trip.

I found cold drafts leaking past the JBR Nest drawstrings and down 
between the nest and the HH.  Bungees seemed to stretch.  I'm trying to 
figure out if that stretch was a function of elevation (high), 
temperature (low), humidity (high with lots of rain), or all 3.  There 
wasn't much wind.  My elastic hairties, which usually last several 
weeks, had to be replaced each day.  So, there was something about the 
conditions of this trip which were hard on elastic.

If the JRB nest was adjusted right, it was toasty, even to about 
0*C--and I sleep cold.  In fact, I was astounded at how well the JRB 
No-Sniveler pumped the heat back to me!

By the way, the Nest was velcroed to itself, so I was swinging it out of 
the way to get into and out of the hammock.  Before the trip, I did the 
DIY Under Quilt Foot End Draw Cord Modification here: 
<http://jacksrbetter.com/index_files/DIY.htm>.  It did help.

The snag was getting the JRB Nest adjusted properly.  I use it or the 
No-Sniveler as an underquilt in my top-loading hammock at home--never 
have any problems.

Part of the problem on this trip, was that the Nest didn't seem to be
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