Discussions related to the use of Hammocks as sleep and shelter systems when backpacking and camping.

marta_clark | 1 Aug 2005 02:59

Re: wet weather testing

I've still got the hammock set up in the woods behind the house.  Now 
I've got a sock tied on one end and a full bandana tied on the other 
end.  It never did rain hard enough today to see is a bigger piece of 
cloth is the answer.  (Maybe my little strips of banadana were simply 
too small.)  Maybe tonight or tomorrow we'll get another gully-
washer.  In the meantime, I'll drop by the outdoor store and pick up 
a couple of carabiners to be ready for the next experiment.  I might 
cut the lines on each end of the hammock and sew in a carabiner.  It 
would also be useful for hanging things from.

Marta

--- In hammockcamping@..., "slowhike" <slowhike <at> y...> 
wrote:
>    marta... sorry to hear that the slited lid didn`t work. water is 
> determaned stuff,isn`t it? i would still suggest considering 
> caribiners. i don`t think i`ve been in near as heavy of rain as 
some 
> of your trips (standing indian), but i`ve been through some pretty 
> good rains & never seen any sign of rain finding it`s way past the 
> biners. i got them in the rock climbing section at the local 
> outfitters & they weigh just under 1 & 1/2 oz each. i don`t 
remember 
> the weight rating but it was way up there. mabey over 1000?  they 
> remain attached to the loops on each end of my hammock & then 
webbing 
> (w/ a loop tyed in the end) attaches to the other end of the 
> caribinner & continues to the tree. i don`t see any way that water 
can 
> make its way past the binner. it would have to travel back up

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Ed Speer | 1 Aug 2005 04:17

August 2005 Issue of Hammock Camping News now available

The August 2005 Issue of Hammock Camping News has just been published.  
See it free at:  
http://www.hammockcamping.com/Newsletters/2005/Aug2005.htm

The feature article is Hammock Safety while our upcoming hammock 
hangers campout is covered in another article.

These free newsletters are published 4 times a year and the next one is 
scheduled for Jan 1, 2006.  You can sign up to automatically receive 
each issue or you can find all past issues online at:  
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Happy Hammocking....Ed

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Ed Speer | 1 Aug 2005 04:26

RE: the ongoing saga of wet-weather testing

Marta, sorry to hear about your ongoing problems with rain getting into your
hammock.  I've tried many different solutions and have always had excellent
success with the simple solution of tying socks or bandanas onto the straps
to serve as drip catchers.  I know you've tried this already with poor
results, but I suspect the rain got pass the bandana because it was tied too
loose or tied in such a manner that the webbing strap folded back onto
itself, thus allowing water to soak past the bandana.  Your next post
suggests you're trying this again-hope it works this time!  ..Ed

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Subject: [Hammock Camping] the ongoing saga of wet-weather testing

It seemed like the perfect opportunity--heavy rains possible off and 
on all weekend.  (Alas, I missed some real downpours during the week 
when I was at work.)  My son had eaten enough Pringles to give me the 
requisite plastic caps.  

The rain started this morning as I was getting home from doing

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Rick | 1 Aug 2005 04:43

Re: August 2005 Issue of Hammock Camping News now available

Thanks for the plug for my book in the newsletter Ed. 

Rick

Ed Speer wrote:

> The August 2005 Issue of Hammock Camping News has just been published. 
> See it free at: 
> http://www.hammockcamping.com/Newsletters/2005/Aug2005.htm
>
> The feature article is Hammock Safety while our upcoming hammock
> hangers campout is covered in another article.
>
> These free newsletters are published 4 times a year and the next one is
> scheduled for Jan 1, 2006.  You can sign up to automatically receive
> each issue or you can find all past issues online at: 
> http://www.hammockcamping.com/Newsletters/NEWS.html
>
> Happy Hammocking....Ed
>
> Moderator, Hammock Camping List
> Author, Hammock Camping The Complete Guide
> Editor, Hammock Camping News
> Owner, Speer Hammocks Inc
>
>
>
>
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Coy | 1 Aug 2005 05:23

Re: August 2005 Issue of Hammock Camping News now available

good article on hammocking safty.  Thanks!  saw the 12th SEHHA
announced.  I have to work that weekend.  shucks. 

Coy Boy PS the print/layout seemed different.  I didn't check previous
editions to varify. 

--- In hammockcamping@..., "Ed Speer" <ed <at> s...> wrote:
> The August 2005 Issue of Hammock Camping News has just been published.  
> See it free at:  
> http://www.hammockcamping.com/Newsletters/2005/Aug2005.htm
> 
> The feature article is Hammock Safety while our upcoming hammock 
> hangers campout is covered in another article.
> 
> These free newsletters are published 4 times a year and the next one is 
> scheduled for Jan 1, 2006.  You can sign up to automatically receive 
> each issue or you can find all past issues online at:  
> http://www.hammockcamping.com/Newsletters/NEWS.html
> 
> Happy Hammocking....Ed
> 
> Moderator, Hammock Camping List
> Author, Hammock Camping The Complete Guide
> Editor, Hammock Camping News
> Owner, Speer Hammocks Inc

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marta_clark | 1 Aug 2005 12:41

Re: the ongoing saga of wet-weather testing

I think it was more that the pieces of cloth I was using were too 
small.  I had torn very thin strips of bandana cloth and tied them on 
the straps.  They didn't really form any sort of dike against the 
water, which just rushed right across and through them.

Marta

--- In hammockcamping@..., "Ed Speer" <ed <at> s...> wrote:
> Marta, sorry to hear about your ongoing problems with rain getting 
into your
> hammock.  I've tried many different solutions and have always had 
excellent
> success with the simple solution of tying socks or bandanas onto 
the straps
> to serve as drip catchers.  I know you've tried this already with 
poor
> results, but I suspect the rain got pass the bandana because it was 
tied too
> loose or tied in such a manner that the webbing strap folded back 
onto
> itself, thus allowing water to soak past the bandana.  Your next 
post
> suggests you're trying this again-hope it works this time!  ..Ed
> 
>  
> 
> Moderator, Hammock Camping List
> Author, Hammock Camping, The Complete Guide
> 
> Editor, Hammock Camping News

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Dave Womble | 1 Aug 2005 14:32

Re: the ongoing saga of wet-weather testing

Marta,

After your first post, I happened to be looking a webbing for tree 
attachments... so I looked at the rain issue as well.  I just used a 
hose pipe with the water turned low and put the water on the trees 
(one smooth bark and one rough bark) just above the webbing... 
figured this would be about as bad as it could get, was on demand and 
somewhat repeatable.  Note that I just used 1" polypropylene webbing 
I got at WalMart, from the weight I'm guessing about 490 lb breaking 
strength. I tried several things; other pieces of webbing sewn as 
drip stoppers, a 1.5 inch descender ring in between webbing, bowline 
knot finishing off non-cinching wraps around the tree and socks tied 
to the webbing.  Nothing worked as well as the synthetic material 
socks-- all the other techniques were dependent on orientation, the 
rate at which the water came down the webbing and/or how long it had 
been coming down the webbing (they sometimes seemed to perform a 
little differently when they were saturated).  I was particularly 
disappointed in the 1.5" descender rings (about 1/2 ounce each?) as I 
thought for sure they would totally solve the problem; they didn't 
have enough 'uphill' to them because of the hammock sag angle to 
handle anything more than drips; they couldn't handle higher volumes 
of water, it that case the stream of water would bridge it.

Just thought I would pass this along, good luck with your testing.

Youngblood

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Chinell, David F (GE Infrastructure | 1 Aug 2005 16:10

RE: hammock adjustments

My two cents...

I've tried the metal tensioners for tarp guys, and they work fine. But I went back to using a tautline hitch
because it's just more satisfying to me. In fact, I usually untie all my rigging and retie it each time,
rather than leaving it on the gear. More practice.

I use double D-rings or O-rings attached with a water knot on my tree straps. I run the hammock strap through
the rings like a belt, and don't even tie a safety knot. It works fine for me, but others have reported
slipping. Maybe it's just the kind of materials used.

(For pictures of a similar setup: http://tinyurl.com/9hhtq )

Either way, I think this may be my favorite solution. By positioning the rings just inside the tarp
coverage, they also act as drip stoppers.

This last weekend I had another idea though. One tree was much thicker than usual, and my tree strap kept
slipping as there wasn't enough strap to make enough loops. So I imagined a simple strap with a water knot
loop on one end. The strap goes around the tree and through this loop (several times around if the tree is
thin enough).

Then there's a bridging part that consists of two pairs of O-rings linked together by -- ? Maybe a sewn loop of
strap or maybe a metal link. The tree strap goes on one pair of rings, the hammock strap goes on the other.
This has the advantage of allowing a firm and certain grip on the tree, an adjustable distance of the rings
away from the tree, and a sliding adjustment for the hammock.

But this gets awfully gear-oriented again. Still, it's always nice to dream. Especially nice to dream
swinging in my hammock while the rain pelts down on my tarp.

Bear

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Sandy Kramer | 1 Aug 2005 17:08

Re: hammock adjustment

errr...tube shape?  tis not hollow but has a hole at each end to allow for rope adjustment

slowhike <slowhike@...> wrote:   sandy... you called the
adjustment bar a "tube".  is it hollow?  
looking at the photos, it appeared to be a solid "bar" of aluminum w/ 
a hole in the center, which would be much stronger than a hollow tube 
w/ a hole in the center. it seams this would be an easy, quick way to 
adjust the sag in a hammock w/o untying the webbing from the tree. i 
may have to get one & experiment w/ a combonation of webbing (tree 
end) & rope (hammock end).    thanks...slowhike

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Sandy Kramer | 1 Aug 2005 17:10

Re: hammock adjustments

yes, it's the "bitter end" that slides thru the "tube" and you adjust the rope right there (ie without having
to untie the wrap around the tree).

slowhike <slowhike@...> wrote:  i wouldn`t mind having a
quicker way to readjust.  that`s why the little bar caught my atention. ...slowhike

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