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Paul | 1 Jun 2006 02:23

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Re: good gawd Brian

Brian Wolven wrote:
> The locations are just set in little XML files that look like this:
> 
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
> <inifile>
>  <wxcode>20723</wxcode>      <!-- Laurel, MD -->
>  <wxunits>english</wxunits>  <!-- Anything but "metric" gets you 
> "English" -->
>  <wxstring>Laurel</wxstring> <!-- Place name used for display purposes -->
>  <wxdebug>false</wxdebug>    <!-- Set to true to turn on debugging -->
>  <wxtimeout>10.0</wxtimeout> <!-- In seconds - set to a value 
> appropriate -->
>                              <!--   for your worst-case connection 
> speed. -->
> </inifile>
> 
> You need to edit wxcode (just a zipcode in the US), and change wxstring 
> to whatever you want this location to be called. IOW, wxstring is a 
> 'display' setting rather than a 'config' setting. I stuck that in 
> because sometimes the 'official' name for a given weather code is weird 
> or misleading. This stuff could all be plain text (and it used to be), 
> but once I started using the XML methods and grabbing the XML feeds from 
> weather.com, I just converted it all to that format. If you've got an 
> XML-smart editor it probably looks purtier, too.

I thought I did that at first, but it didn't work. But I am sure you are 
correct and I made a mistake. That is more likely.

> There's a vbscript (displayRadarImage.vbs) that goes out and grabs 
> weather images and displays them for a specified time period in a

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Hale, Paul | 1 Jun 2006 17:19

Label docked to a window zorder?

Now that I have Brian's weather map working I have added a border around
it to make a match my theme. The bad thing is that it behaves as a
normal window in regards to zorder. My label border however behaves as a
normal label and is behind everything, unless I make it always on top.
But then the map can be covered up but another window. 

Is there a way to make a window always on top or to make the label
follow the zorder of the window?

Paul Hale

 

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Immortal | 1 Jun 2006 18:36

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Re: Label docked to a window zorder?

Can you not just make the center of the border magic pink?

Hale, Paul wrote:
> Now that I have Brian's weather map working I have added a border around
> it to make a match my theme. The bad thing is that it behaves as a
> normal window in regards to zorder. My label border however behaves as a
> normal label and is behind everything, unless I make it always on top.
> But then the map can be covered up but another window. 
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> Is there a way to make a window always on top or to make the label
> follow the zorder of the window?
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Brian Wolven | 1 Jun 2006 22:47

Re: Label docked to a window zorder?

Hale, Paul wrote:
> Now that I have Brian's weather map working I have added a border around
> it to make a match my theme. The bad thing is that it behaves as a
> normal window in regards to zorder. My label border however behaves as a
> normal label and is behind everything, unless I make it always on top.
> But then the map can be covered up but another window. 
>  
> Is there a way to make a window always on top or to make the label
> follow the zorder of the window?

These commands (wndman.dll) will modify those radar display windows:

  *WndOnCreate "IEFrame" "Weather"	!parseEvars !wndSetOpacity %wnd% 
%#ThemeOpacity%# ; embedded radar display
  *WndOnCreate "IEFrame" "Weather"	!wndOnTop %wnd% "true"

%wnd% is a wndman "evar", while %#ThemeOpacity%# is an [optional] setting 
defined in my theme. I'm not sure what will happen if you set the border label 
to be always on top as well, but if you use the "behindwindow" option I think it 
ought to work. Literunner may be able to automatically hide/show that border 
label, too.

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Thermo | 9 Jun 2006 01:54

Litestep + G15 = No Volume Controls

Hello - long time (6 years) user of Litestep here.

I just got my new Logitech G15 keyboard the other day and so far I like it.
Still getting used to the key spacing and all the extra keys to the left of
the keyboard. The Fraps plugin rules.

My remaining quibble - and it's kind of a big one - is that I can't get the
volume controls to work under Litestep. It works fine under explorer shell -
nothing under Litestep. Mute doesbn't work either.

I am going to try and look for a hotkey plugin for litestep - maybe fix it
using bang commands and the programmable macro keys.

I am just wondering if anyoine found any builds or modules for litestep that
allow for correct functionality - or if anyone found a workaorund for the
problem. (One suggestion was to use winamp - but I prefer ITunes.)

Details on the keyboard can be found here:
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/CA/EN,CRID=2166,CONTENTID
=10717

Thanks in advance.

Oh ya - forgot to mention - the volume keys on my old Logitech ITouch -
using the ITouch software worked fine with Litestep.

 Thermo

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chris | 9 Jun 2006 02:05

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Re: Litestep + G15 = No Volume Controls

Thermo wrote:
> My remaining quibble - and it's kind of a big one - is that I can't get the
> volume controls to work under Litestep. It works fine under explorer shell -
> nothing under Litestep. Mute doesbn't work either.
>  
> Oh ya - forgot to mention - the volume keys on my old Logitech ITouch -
> using the ITouch software worked fine with Litestep.

Use jkey.dll and setup the vk104.txt mappings.  Also, you'll probably 
want to disable loading of any custom keyboard driver/software.  There 
are many posts about this in the litestep.net forums.

chris

(ps. if anyone wants to send me multi-media keyboards I'd try to improve 
support for them.  I don't have any, nor do I desire one, so without a 
donation, I won't ever get around to improving jkey support for those 
keyboards.)

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Steve | 9 Jun 2006 02:19

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Re: Re: Litestep + G15 = No Volume Controls

And use vbang lite for your volume settings.

chris wrote:
> Thermo wrote:
>> My remaining quibble - and it's kind of a big one - is that I can't 
>> get the
>> volume controls to work under Litestep. It works fine under explorer 
>> shell -
>> nothing under Litestep. Mute doesbn't work either.
>>  
>> Oh ya - forgot to mention - the volume keys on my old Logitech ITouch -
>> using the ITouch software worked fine with Litestep.
>
> Use jkey.dll and setup the vk104.txt mappings.  Also, you'll probably 
> want to disable loading of any custom keyboard driver/software.  There 
> are many posts about this in the litestep.net forums.
>
> chris
>
> (ps. if anyone wants to send me multi-media keyboards I'd try to 
> improve support for them.  I don't have any, nor do I desire one, so 
> without a donation, I won't ever get around to improving jkey support 
> for those keyboards.)
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Thermo | 9 Jun 2006 03:03

RE: [Bulk] Re: [Litestep] Re: Litestep + G15 = No Volume Controls

Thanks for the quick responses.  Pardon my ignorance here but is there
something intrinisic blocking the correct function of these keyboards in the
main litestep program?  

In this case the volume control is a wheel - so I dont know if the jkey
module is going to work.   

I remember trying jkey out to get my Microsoft keyboard going at work and I
don't think I ever completely got it working.  Wasn't a module problem
though - that keyboard needed the win key held down or something stupid.

I was kinda hoping someone already hacked and slashed their way through
getting this particular keyboard working.  

Thermo

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From: Steve [mailto:xcalck@...] 
Sent: June 8, 2006 8:19 PM
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Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Litestep] Re: Litestep + G15 = No Volume Controls

And use vbang lite for your volume settings.

chris wrote:
> Thermo wrote:
>> My remaining quibble - and it's kind of a big one - is that I can't 
>> get the volume controls to work under Litestep. It works fine under 
>> explorer shell - nothing under Litestep. Mute doesbn't work either.
>>

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Tim Bates | 9 Jun 2006 03:25

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Re: RE: [Bulk] Re: [Litestep] Re: Litestep + G15 = No Volume Controls

I'm pretty sure those volume wheels are still buttons as far as the 
input to the computer goes.

Thermo wrote:
> Thanks for the quick responses.  Pardon my ignorance here but is there
> something intrinisic blocking the correct function of these keyboards in the
> main litestep program?  
>
> In this case the volume control is a wheel - so I dont know if the jkey
> module is going to work.   
>
> I remember trying jkey out to get my Microsoft keyboard going at work and I
> don't think I ever completely got it working.  Wasn't a module problem
> though - that keyboard needed the win key held down or something stupid.
>
> I was kinda hoping someone already hacked and slashed their way through
> getting this particular keyboard working.  
>
> Thermo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve [mailto:xcalck@...] 
> Sent: June 8, 2006 8:19 PM
> To: litestep@...
> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Litestep] Re: Litestep + G15 = No Volume Controls
>
> And use vbang lite for your volume settings.
>
> chris wrote:
>

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chris | 9 Jun 2006 03:31

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Re: [Bulk] Re: [Litestep] Re: Litestep + G15 = No Volume Controls

Thermo wrote:
> Thanks for the quick responses.  Pardon my ignorance here but is there
> something intrinisic blocking the correct function of these keyboards in the
> main litestep program?  
> 
> In this case the volume control is a wheel - so I dont know if the jkey
> module is going to work.   
> 
> I remember trying jkey out to get my Microsoft keyboard going at work and I
> don't think I ever completely got it working.  Wasn't a module problem
> though - that keyboard needed the win key held down or something stupid.
> 
> I was kinda hoping someone already hacked and slashed their way through
> getting this particular keyboard working.  

The multi-media keyboard support is a "shell" function.  Litestep does 
not implement the functionality in this instance.

See topics covering HSHELL_APPCOMMAND and WM_APPCOMMAND:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/winui/winui/windowsuserinterface/windowing/hooks/hookreference/hookfunctions/shellproc.asp

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/winui/winui/windowsuserinterface/userinput/keyboardinput/keyboardinputreference/keyboardinputmessages/wm_appcommand.asp

Also, because some keyboard drivers/background apps perform their own 
translation of keys they interfere with the basic functionality of jKey, 
thus it is best to use a generic driver with jKey.

However, the correct solution is to implement support at the shell hook 
level (a module can do this).  But it will take someone with the time,

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