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Janek Kozicki | 1 Oct 2009 09:18
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Re: latest libreb debian package problem + tabs?

> > Which themes support tabs?
> 
> Elberg-tabbed and get-s-tabbed (both shipped) AFAIK no other theme,
> sadly.

Perhaps it would make sense to rename them to tabbed-elberg and
tabbed-get-s.

Because when I was looking for tabbed themes I scrolled down the list
of themes to check if any of them started with "tab*". I suppose
that's the intuitive way.

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Christopher Roy Bratusek | 1 Oct 2009 20:02
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NEWS on 1.6.0

Hi all,

Half of the time for Sawfish 1.6 has passed, so it's time for some news
for those who didn't follow the HEAD.

(refer to ChangeLog/NEWS to know who is responsible for what)

* Removed built-in Audio Support
	- Instead we rely on an extern playbin ("/usr/bin/paplay")
	- important customization options:
		° audio-events-enabled (bool)
		° play-sample-program
			^ there's more, check OPTIONS ("audio options")
	- So we got rid of ESounD and LibAudioFile dependencies
		° Sawfish is now Deprecated-GNOME-Cruft free
			^ Project Ridley finished for Sawfish

* Themes in tar.xz and tar.lzma formats are now supported (librep .90.1)

* SawfishUI ("sawfish-ui") is now SawfishConfig ("sawfish-config")
	- modules moved from sawfish.ui.* to sawfish.cfg.*

* SawfishConfig non-ASCII string issue has been fixed
	- bug in librep < .90.2

* An own implementation of the FDO Applicationmenu is now shipped
	- it's automagically beeing used
		° if there's no customized apps-menu

* SawfishConfig/Sawfish UI improvements
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Christopher Roy Bratusek | 1 Oct 2009 22:28
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GtkComboBox in rep-gtk

Hi all,

I just implemented the GtkComboBox in rep-gtk.

But I've got one question: Should I replace the deprecated GtkCombo
Widgets in SawfishConfig by GtkComboBox or GtkComboBoxEntry Widgets?

The later is derived from the former so it takes just a few minutes to
implement it, but It's late now, so I'll do that tommorow ;)

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Chris
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Alexey I. Froloff | 1 Oct 2009 23:40
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Re: [VOTE] Moving to SF.net?

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 01:36:46PM +0200, Christopher Roy Bratusek wrote:
> Since we already host your tarballs on SF.net why not using it for all?
SF sux :-(  What about Savannah, http://savannah.nongnu.org/ ?

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Janek Kozicki | 2 Oct 2009 09:42
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Re: NEWS on 1.6.0, crash fix...

Christopher Roy Bratusek said:     (by the date of Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:02:13 +0200)

> * When entering a different WS it's now possible to display it's name
> 	- like in Enlightenment DR17

How about displaying Viewport name when changing a Viewport?

Oh, do you also plan to fix

  http://sawfish.wikia.com/wiki/Proposed_Goals#Restart_and_viewport

for 1.6.0 ? I suffer from this one too...

Maybe (just maybe..) I will sit down this sunday to fix that 

  http://sawfish.wikia.com/wiki/Proposed_Goals#Crash_fix

And I wanted to skip installing 1.6.0 now, because I have just
installed 1.5.0.

I hope that if I fix this in 1.5.0, will it be portable to 1.6.0?
How do you think?

Stupid problem, is that I can only manage one day for doing this, and
it's sunday. So waiting for some answers from the mailing list, when
I hit an obstacle when fixing this bug is not an option :/

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Jeremy Hankins | 2 Oct 2009 15:41

Re: NEWS on 1.6.0, crash fix...

Janek Kozicki <janek_listy <at> wp.pl> writes:
> Christopher Roy Bratusek said:     (by the date of Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:02:13 +0200)
>
>> * When entering a different WS it's now possible to display it's name
>> 	- like in Enlightenment DR17
>
> How about displaying Viewport name when changing a Viewport?

Viewports don't really have names, they have coordinates.  I guess you
could display those.  But wouldn't a pager make more sense?

> Oh, do you also plan to fix
>
>   http://sawfish.wikia.com/wiki/Proposed_Goals#Restart_and_viewport
>
> for 1.6.0 ? I suffer from this one too...

Yeah, me too.

> Maybe (just maybe..) I will sit down this sunday to fix that 
>
>   http://sawfish.wikia.com/wiki/Proposed_Goals#Crash_fix
>
> And I wanted to skip installing 1.6.0 now, because I have just
> installed 1.5.0.
>
> I hope that if I fix this in 1.5.0, will it be portable to 1.6.0?
> How do you think?

Hmm..  I'm not sure whether the changes I made when I added dynamic
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Janek Kozicki | 2 Oct 2009 18:47
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Re: NEWS on 1.6.0, crash fix...

Jeremy Hankins said:     (by the date of Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:41:27 -0500)

> Janek Kozicki <janek_listy <at> wp.pl> writes:
> > Christopher Roy Bratusek said:     (by the date of Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:02:13 +0200)
> >
> >> * When entering a different WS it's now possible to display it's name
> >> 	- like in Enlightenment DR17
> >
> > How about displaying Viewport name when changing a Viewport?
> 
> Viewports don't really have names, they have coordinates.  I guess you
> could display those.  But wouldn't a pager make more sense?

yes I have a pager. But you could assign names to those "coordinates"
and call viewport 1,4 "email" or such. Those would be displayed in
similar manner as assigning name "email" to workspace number 3.

> > I hope that if I fix this in 1.5.0, will it be portable to 1.6.0?
> > How do you think?
> 
> Hmm..  I'm not sure whether the changes I made when I added dynamic
> boundary mode would cause problems for that or not, but they may.  One
> difference besides dynamic viewport support itself is that in 1.6.0 each
> desktop has it's own active viewport, which should probably be saved as
> well.
> 
> There is code in viewport to save state, and it's not obvious to me why
> it's not working, though it clearly needs to be updated for dynamic
> viewport mode.  If you fix it for 1.5 I'll look at porting it to 1.6.
> Or if you don't get to it I'll take a look myself.
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Jeremy Hankins | 2 Oct 2009 20:48

Re: NEWS on 1.6.0, crash fix...

Janek Kozicki <janek_listy <at> wp.pl> writes:
> Jeremy Hankins said:     (by the date of Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:41:27 -0500)

>> There is code in viewport to save state, and it's not obvious to me
>> why it's not working, though it clearly needs to be updated for
>> dynamic viewport mode.  If you fix it for 1.5 I'll look at porting it
>> to 1.6.  Or if you don't get to it I'll take a look myself.
>
> This crash actually isn't related to viewports. It happens when some
> window is closed. And I guess it is closed in some illegal way, maybe
> when unmapped from wm. Of course closing windows in illegal way is
> illegal, but sawfish isn't supposed to crash at this. Thanks for your
> interest in the issue.

Sorry, I quoted your text badly -- I was talking about saving viewport
state across restart, not the crash.  I shouldn't have included that
part of your text in my reply.

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fuchur | 3 Oct 2009 02:43
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Re: Latest gentoo linux ebuilds

On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 00:34:51 +0200
wrote fuchur <flohtransporter <at> gmail.com>:

>On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:51:44 +0200
>wrote fuchur <flohtransporter <at> gmail.com>:
>
>>On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 03:51:25 +0200
>>wrote fuchur <flohtransporter <at> gmail.com>:
>>
>>>On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 01:09:40 +0200
>>>wrote fuchur <flohtransporter <at> gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 14:39:29 +0900 (JST)
>>>>wrote Teika Kazura <teika <at> lavabit.com>:
>>>>
>>>>>Dear Gentoo linux users,
>>>>>
>>>>>the latest ebuilds for sawfish, librep, and rep-gtk are available at:
>>>>>https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=246677
>>>>>
>>>>>Teika kazura
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>SVN/CVS repos (ebuilds) are obsolete. 
>>>>librep/sawfish/rep-gtk have moved to git.
>>>>Here you can download my git ebuilds for sawfish-git, librep-git, and rep-gtk-git (only tested on x86):
>>>>http://mitglied.lycos.de/fuchur2004/gentoo-sawfish-git-ebuilds.tar.bz2
>>>>
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Teika Kazura | 1 Oct 2009 08:14

Re: ChangeLog -> git log?

Thanks, German. Can I ask more?

1. It may not be your case, but if people have different branches,
which should be the date of hand-written ChangeLog? The day git commit
is done, or the day merge to the trunk is done? With the former, you
can easily see the relation between ChangeLog item and git/svn log
counterpart.  With the latter, suppose you want to see what happend
recently, and it suffices to read the some first lines, through the
items you've met last time.

# By the way, I put
 alias PG='git tag -f pull; git pull'
So after pull, I can see the change with 'git log pull..'

2. Commit log is more firmly attached to the change. When you done git
/ svn blame, first you see is the commit log. So it should talk more
verbosely then ChangeLog, like why the commit is desired, what lied
behind, etc. And manual ChangeLog is more concise. (So when you do
git-pull / svn update, first you read will be ChangeLog.) Am I right,
do you think?

Regards,
Teika (Teika kazura)
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