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Paul Rensing | 6 Nov 2003 21:02
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Problem with sawfish and Evolution

Hi,

I am not signed up for the list, so please email me directly.

I have a problem running Evolution if I use sawfish as my window manager
(which I like very much). With evolution 1.4 (based on Gnome 2.x) and
sawfish 1.3 (from Fedora Core 1 ;-), the whole X screen locks up if I do
the following:
 - open a new mail message.
 - move the cursor to just over the "CC:" field, but leave the keyboard
focus in the To: field.
 - start typing an address. 
After a few characters, evo pops up a choice list. At that point, there
seems to be a problem with focus. My whole screen will be locked up, but
the computer keeps running. I can't get sawfish to shift focus to any
other window. 

To fix the symptom, I use Cntl-Alt-F1 to get a console screen and kill
evolution. Everything is OK.

I don't get the problem with metacity (which I am not fond of). Also, if
I make sure the mouse cursor is above the To field (so that the
completion pop-up does not hit it), I don't have a problem.

Hope someone can reproduce this and help.

	Thanks,

		Paul Rensing
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Jason Rhinelander | 6 Nov 2003 22:49
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Re: Problem with sawfish and Evolution

That's odd, I'm using sawfish 1.3 with Evolution 1.4.5 without this
problem.  Perhaps this is something that was fixed between 1.4 and
1.4.5?  I seem to remember there were a few other focusing issues
(though not errors like you described) that have been fixed since.

On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 12:02, Paul Rensing wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am not signed up for the list, so please email me directly.
> 
> I have a problem running Evolution if I use sawfish as my window manager
> (which I like very much). With evolution 1.4 (based on Gnome 2.x) and
> sawfish 1.3 (from Fedora Core 1 ;-), the whole X screen locks up if I do
> the following:
>  - open a new mail message.
>  - move the cursor to just over the "CC:" field, but leave the keyboard
> focus in the To: field.
>  - start typing an address. 
> After a few characters, evo pops up a choice list. At that point, there
> seems to be a problem with focus. My whole screen will be locked up, but
> the computer keeps running. I can't get sawfish to shift focus to any
> other window. 
> 
> To fix the symptom, I use Cntl-Alt-F1 to get a console screen and kill
> evolution. Everything is OK.
> 
> I don't get the problem with metacity (which I am not fond of). Also, if
> I make sure the mouse cursor is above the To field (so that the
> completion pop-up does not hit it), I don't have a problem.
>
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kin | 7 Nov 2003 00:18
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another key binding question

Hi,

I want to be able to bind the key sequence "control  <at> " in emacs.
This sequence is again somehow hidden.

I ran xev, pressed and hold the control and shift keys, and saw
the key-down events for shift and control, but xev reported no
new events when I pressed 2.

I do not define it in the my .sawfishrc or sawfish's key
shortcuts.

Any idea who may be claiming the key sequence?

Thanks.

-kin
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c.marschalek | 7 Nov 2003 14:17

Start something from sawfishrc


hi everyone!

i cant seem to find out how to simply start a program from within sawfishrc
so it gets executed everytime I logon using sawfish!

thanks for any help!

regards cm
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Thomas de Grenier de Latour | 7 Nov 2003 14:49
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Re: Start something from sawfishrc

On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:17:40 +0100
c.marschalek <at> schrack-seconet.com wrote:

> i cant seem to find out how to simply start a program from within
> sawfishrc so it gets executed everytime I logon using sawfish!

You can use:

 (system "your-program &")

But I'm not sure it is such a good idea, because the rc file will be
re-read if for instance you restart sawfish, and then launch this apps
again. What about starting them from ~/.xinitrc instead?

--

-- 
TGL.
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Paul Rensing | 7 Nov 2003 16:21
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Re: Problem with sawfish and Evolution

I realized that I left out some details that are probably important.

I am using point-to-focus. 

Another symptom: I have Cntl-Alt-LeftArrow (and -RightArrow) set to move
the current application to the workspace. When the completion window
pops up and gets into the bad state, if I press Cntl-Alt-LeftArrow, only
the pop-up window moves, as if it is its own app, not part of Evo.

	Paul Rensing

On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 16:49, Jason Rhinelander wrote:
> That's odd, I'm using sawfish 1.3 with Evolution 1.4.5 without this
> problem.  Perhaps this is something that was fixed between 1.4 and
> 1.4.5?  I seem to remember there were a few other focusing issues
> (though not errors like you described) that have been fixed since.
> 
> On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 12:02, Paul Rensing wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I am not signed up for the list, so please email me directly.
> > 
> > I have a problem running Evolution if I use sawfish as my window manager
> > (which I like very much). With evolution 1.4 (based on Gnome 2.x) and
> > sawfish 1.3 (from Fedora Core 1 ;-), the whole X screen locks up if I do
> > the following:
> >  - open a new mail message.
> >  - move the cursor to just over the "CC:" field, but leave the keyboard
> > focus in the To: field.
> >  - start typing an address.
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Paul Rensing | 7 Nov 2003 16:22
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Re: Problem with sawfish and Evolution

Forgot to mention. I am using Evo 1.4.5 too (the latest from
RedHat/Fedora).

	Paul

On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 16:49, Jason Rhinelander wrote:
> That's odd, I'm using sawfish 1.3 with Evolution 1.4.5 without this
> problem.  Perhaps this is something that was fixed between 1.4 and
> 1.4.5?  I seem to remember there were a few other focusing issues
> (though not errors like you described) that have been fixed since.
> 
> On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 12:02, Paul Rensing wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I am not signed up for the list, so please email me directly.
> > 
> > I have a problem running Evolution if I use sawfish as my window manager
> > (which I like very much). With evolution 1.4 (based on Gnome 2.x) and
> > sawfish 1.3 (from Fedora Core 1 ;-), the whole X screen locks up if I do
> > the following:
> >  - open a new mail message.
> >  - move the cursor to just over the "CC:" field, but leave the keyboard
> > focus in the To: field.
> >  - start typing an address. 
> > After a few characters, evo pops up a choice list. At that point, there
> > seems to be a problem with focus. My whole screen will be locked up, but
> > the computer keeps running. I can't get sawfish to shift focus to any
> > other window. 
> > 
> > To fix the symptom, I use Cntl-Alt-F1 to get a console screen and kill
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Paul Rensing | 7 Nov 2003 16:31
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Re: Problem with sawfish and Evolution

OK. more info. The bug seems to be associated strictly with setting the
focus mode to "enter-exit". If I change it to "enter-only" or "click",
it does not appear to happen.

	Paul

On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 16:49, Jason Rhinelander wrote:
> That's odd, I'm using sawfish 1.3 with Evolution 1.4.5 without this
> problem.  Perhaps this is something that was fixed between 1.4 and
> 1.4.5?  I seem to remember there were a few other focusing issues
> (though not errors like you described) that have been fixed since.
> 
> On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 12:02, Paul Rensing wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I am not signed up for the list, so please email me directly.
> > 
> > I have a problem running Evolution if I use sawfish as my window manager
> > (which I like very much). With evolution 1.4 (based on Gnome 2.x) and
> > sawfish 1.3 (from Fedora Core 1 ;-), the whole X screen locks up if I do
> > the following:
> >  - open a new mail message.
> >  - move the cursor to just over the "CC:" field, but leave the keyboard
> > focus in the To: field.
> >  - start typing an address. 
> > After a few characters, evo pops up a choice list. At that point, there
> > seems to be a problem with focus. My whole screen will be locked up, but
> > the computer keeps running. I can't get sawfish to shift focus to any
> > other window. 
> >
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Marshall Perrin | 8 Nov 2003 05:27

viewports and the workspace switcher


I'm running sawfish with GNOME 2.2 on a Debian "testing" system
(sawfish package 1.3+cvs2003102; gnome-panel 2.2.2.2-2, if you want the
gory details...)

I've edited my .sawfishrc to enable the use of viewports instead of
workspaces, since I like to be able to span windows across multiple
viewports or drag them between virtual desktops with the mouse. By and
large this works great and I've happily replicated the functionality I had
back in GNOME 1.4. However, there are two minor annoyances I've noticed.
I don't know if these are sawfish bugs or gnome-panel bugs.

1) Viewports are drawn in the pager with the wrong proportions!
They're much narrower than the actual proportions of my screen. In other
words, if you'll pardon some bad ascii art, the workspace switcher looks
like this:

+-+-+-+
| | | |
| | | |
+-+-+-+
| | | |
| | | |
+-+-+-+

and I'd rather it look like this:

+--+--+--+
|  |  |  |
+--+--+--+
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Christian Marillat | 8 Nov 2003 09:27
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Re: viewports and the workspace switcher

Marshall Perrin <mperrin <at> heartofgold.bantha.org> writes:

> I'm running sawfish with GNOME 2.2 on a Debian "testing" system
> (sawfish package 1.3+cvs2003102; gnome-panel 2.2.2.2-2, if you want the
> gory details...)
>
> I've edited my .sawfishrc to enable the use of viewports instead of
> workspaces, since I like to be able to span windows across multiple
> viewports or drag them between virtual desktops with the mouse. By and
> large this works great and I've happily replicated the functionality I had
> back in GNOME 1.4. However, there are two minor annoyances I've noticed.
> I don't know if these are sawfish bugs or gnome-panel bugs.

Viewports has been removed in GNOME 2.x. You have two possibilities :

1) Use desktop instead of viewport

2) Use a pager who works with viewport "apt-get install sawfish-pager"

Christian
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