E R | 31 Oct 07:12 2014
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How To Terminate sh cmd from apps in menu.xml?

Hi,

I want to run some apps to /dev/null in menu.xml, so I have like this
example below;

<command>sh -c "icecat &gt; /dev/null 2&gt;&amp;1"</command>

But if run the command like this I see in htop the application name
running and sh too.

I forgot who it was just recently showed me how to stop sh from
running when using commands in the autostart.sh, but not sure how to
apply this to the menu.xml command.

All I understand is that I need an ampersand & on the end of the
command, something like this?

<command>sh -c "icecat &gt; /dev/null 2&gt;&amp;1 &"</command>

Thanks
Mii
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Ian Zimmerman | 28 Oct 06:18 2014

Re: make the root-menu appear at a fixed location when opening it with a keyboard shortcut, possible?

On Mon, 6 Oct 2014 20:42:35 +0200,
Mikael Magnusson <mikachu <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> http://comm.it.cx/cgit/openbox/patch/?id=8124401

That patch broke my build, so I amended it:

https://github.com/nobrowser/openbox-least-overlap/commit/d359d480e134debd1a2ec4408c72495b766ea0fc

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Micha | 26 Oct 12:10 2014
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Can't get rid of icons in Debian menu !

Yesterday, I was looking into the Debian-menu after a long time,
to see, if it was right, that it displays icons.
I switched the icons on in the rc.xml, and voila, they are there.
Then I switched them off, but now, they won't go away anymore !
I copied the debian-menu.xml into my local one again, updated
the menu, but no success.
Can't really remember, if the icons are displayed in the Debian-menu,
no matter, what setting is in the rc.xml.
Or do I have to delete them manually in the debian-menu.xml ?

Micha

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Frank McCormick | 24 Oct 17:47 2014
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New problems


I dl'ed and installed openbox-menu in Debian Sid, and set it up using 
openbox's menu editor as a pipe menu.

I have tried various combinations (-x for the xfce menu items and
-g for the Gnome menu)  but most of the categories when I call it up in
Openbox are (null).

Is anyone running this under Openbox?

Thanks

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Micha | 24 Oct 13:59 2014
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Howto highlight menuitems and howto use disabled menuitems in pipemenus ?

In the inbuild menus, there is at least highlighting with bold text.
I've tried to achieve highlighting menuitems in my pipemenus
with ANSI escape sequences and Xml-tags, neither are working.
Is it possible at all, to have the items colored and/or bold displayed ?

And how can I take use of the "disabled" formatting ?

Micha
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Frank McCormick | 23 Oct 01:36 2014
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how to change language for pipemenus

Strange problem today I have never run across before. I inserted a
pipemenu in my menu today- it works...but displays in Italian. I have
exported LANG=en_US.UTF8 and LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF8 in the environemnt
in ~/.config/openbox but nothing changes.

All the other menu items are in English.

I must be missing something.
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E R | 19 Oct 03:50 2014
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I Have Two Instances Of 'autostart.sh Running...

Hi Everyone,

My specs;
Slackware 14.1 x86_64
Openbox 3.5.2

When I look at htop I am seeing that autostart.sh is running twice

sh /home/foo/.config/openbox/autostart.sh
sh /home/foo/.config/openbox/autostart.sh

Why am I getting two instances of this instead of one?

Thank you
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Frank McCormick | 18 Oct 17:32 2014
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Re: Problems starting Openbox

   Well I found the problem and it wasn't where I was looking :)

I ran the openbox autostart files which on my machine are in 
/usr/lib/i386-gnu...using the --list parameter.

The first one listed all the files it looked at but none were set to run 
for various reasons.
The second python related autostart file did the same thing but I 
discovered it was running Marco, the Mate desktop. Looking through
marco's desktop file (which was incomplete) I noticed there was no
"OnlyShowIn" or "NotShowIn" entries! So it was being started...no wonder
the whole system crashed :) I still don't know why the Marco Desktop 
file was incomplete, but it is now.

In the process I now know more about Desktop files than I ever wanted to 
know :)

Thanks and sorry for the noise.

On 10/18/2014 11:03 AM, Dana Jansens wrote:
> You looked at these?
> ~/.cache/openbox/openbox.log
> ~/.xsession-errors
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> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Frank McCormick <beacon <at> videotron.ca
> <mailto:beacon <at> videotron.ca>> wrote:
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>     I installed openbox on my machine a few months ago, but haven't
>     really used it very much since then. I am running Debian Sid, and
>     about a month ago switched it to the new init system SystemD. I
>     don;t know whether this is related to my problem.
>     Yesterday I tried starting up open box to do a little customization
>     and found it wouldn't run. It seems to open up, displays the
>     background, then crashes to the computer returns to lightdm.
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>     I reduced the local startup menu to almost nothing but to no avail.
>     The strange thing is if I run openbox itself and not
>     openbox-session, it starts and runs fine, but of course nothing in
>     the auto-start files gets run.
>
>     I have checked the logs but there are no clues there as to what is
>     happening.
>
>     Does anyone have a clue as to whats going on or where I might start
>     looking. There are a few remnants of SystemD on the computer such as
>     systemd-logind...but I don;t see the connection there.
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Walter Alejandro Iglesias | 11 Oct 22:42 2014

Full screen windows auto raise using sloppy focus

Hi everyone,

Openbox is the only window manager that let me do what I want, except
for some details.  In order of relevance I'd like to:

  1. Avoid full screen windows "auto raise" when the pointer enters on
them (using sloppy focus).

  2. Avoid forced key accelerators in menus, and to be able to navigate
them using vi keys (a bit slower but more reliable).

  3. To have some "never focus" option for apps like xload, xbiff.

If it already exists ways to accomplish some of the above please let me
know.

Thanks!

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Micha | 10 Oct 20:38 2014
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Re: make the root-menu appear at a fixed location when opening it with a keyboard shortcut, possible?

Am 06.10.2014 20:42, schrieb Mikael Magnusson:
> On 6 October 2014 15:03, Micha <maria.huana <at> gmx.de> wrote:
>> Nice, that you have such a high opinion of us !
> Can't blame me for having some small hope. Anyway, I realized that
> although it is very simple to add a simple option to just use an
> absolute number, it was a bit more work to use the existing code that
> allows you to say things like 2/3 and -500 to put stuff at 2/3rds of
> the specified desktop, aligned from the right edge on so on, so I took
> pity on you guys and implemented it.
>
> http://comm.it.cx/cgit/openbox/log/?h=work top six commits here, or
> squashed into a single patch here,
> http://comm.it.cx/cgit/openbox/patch/?id=8124401
>
> I've only tested this lightly, so let me know if something breaks. The
> specified position will not take effect for mouse binds, and will not
> take effect if the menu shown is client-menu (it always shows up under
> the titlebar of the window it belongs to).
>
Not my topic here, but I think, someone should acknowledge your patch
at least, well done !

Though not obvious, but there are situations, where placing a menu e.g. at
the center can become handy.
When you watch fullscreen videos, or you are working inside a window, maybe
you shove the mouse pointer out of your view.
If you now call a menu by shortcut, you first have to search around the 
screen
edges, to find the menu.  Here a fixed shortcut-menu position is useful.

Frankly, I've not tested the patch, I don't even know, which is the 
current OB version.

Keep on with your great work,

Micha

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Alexey Korop | 10 Oct 18:16 2014
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ToggleShowDesktop exclutions

Hi, All

   For some reason I use Conky windows in "own_window_type normal" mode.
In this case ToggleShowDesktop operation switch Conky windows
visibility, which is undesirable.
   Is there a way to leave the Concy windows visible despite their
"normal" mode?
   Perhaps it would be wiser not to toggle the visibility of windows
with hints "undecorated,below,skip_taskbar,skip_pager"?

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