Re: Plone's a cms OK why doesn't fss or some such other beast come preinstalled?

Yes, but in the meantime http://plone.org/products/plone.app.blob
seems overly complex.  Or that the documentation is.

On Aug 31, 4:52 pm, "Alexander Limi" <l...@...> wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:04:07 -0700, Dale DeWitt  
>
> <dewittd...@...> wrote:
> > I suppose I could repeat the subject line; but why.  Is it a matter of
> > keeping things as simple as possible or is there really not a lot of
> > demand for an object database set for outside storage out of the box?
>
> Because FSS is a hack, and the problem has been solved properly in the  
> latest version of ZODB, shipping with Zope 2.11. See  http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7822for details.
>
> The next major version of Plone will have this by default.
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Re: Plone's a cms OK why doesn't fss or some such other beast come preinstalled?

--On 31. August 2008 14:52:28 -0700 Alexander Limi <limi@...> wrote:

> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:04:07 -0700, Dale DeWitt
> <dewittdale@...> wrote:
>
>> I suppose I could repeat the subject line; but why.  Is it a matter of
>> keeping things as simple as possible or is there really not a lot of
>> demand for an object database set for outside storage out of the box?
>
> Because FSS is a hack, and the problem has been solved properly in the

FSS is _not_ a hack. It uses the proper Archetypes storage API and is very 
mature and working reliably since years - however using blobs are the 
future.

-aj

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Re: Caching toLocalizedTime

>> Since toLocalizedTime is being called constantly,
>
> Jup, but usually with different timestamps.

Still, between 10% and 20% cache hits.

>> logging a deprecation
>
> You're talking of Plone 2 dot something?

Yes, latest 2.5 .. we have a lot of sites still on 2 ..

> So "optimizing" a little brick with in a huge wall is unlikely to help you much.

True, true ..

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Re: Plone's a cms OK why doesn't fss or some such other beast come preinstalled?

--On 31. August 2008 14:04:07 -0700 Dale DeWitt
<dewittdale@...> 
wrote:

> I suppose I could repeat the subject line; but why.  Is it a matter of
> keeping things as simple as possible or is there really not a lot of
> demand for an object database set for outside storage out of the box?

There is basically no need to ship FSS with Plone out-of-the-box. Using 
zc.buildout you can setup Plone with FSS with some lines of configuration.
THere are recipes for iw.fss.

-aj

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Re: Caching toLocalizedTime

--On 1. September 2008 13:08:02 +0700 Jean Jordaan
<jean.jordaan@...> 
wrote:

>>> Since toLocalizedTime is being called constantly,
>>
>> Jup, but usually with different timestamps.
>
> Still, between 10% and 20% cache hits.
>
>>> logging a deprecation
>>
>> You're talking of Plone 2 dot something?
>
> Yes, latest 2.5 .. we have a lot of sites still on 2 ..
>
>> So "optimizing" a little brick with in a huge wall is unlikely to help
>> you much.
>
> True, true ..

Go and profile  Doing performance optimizations without a
dedicated analysis of your application is worthless. You need to know where 
your hotspots are.

Andreas

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Re: Export impor a whole Site

Shani Oren schrieb:
> Hi All,
> 
> I upgraded my site to 3.1.5.1 and then I tried (actualy just to see if I 
> can do that as a disaster recovery strategy) import the entire site from 
> my 3.0.6 release. But that does not work
> 
for desaster recovery you best use a whole Data.fs file.
The chances that you can downgrade a site however are small. independent of what 
method migth use.
robert

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Re: Export impor a whole Site

I have used a data.fs file to migrate upward on a number of previous
occasions, the only real issue is customisations. If you have third
party products or page customisations these will likely break, so it
really depends on what your site is for. As mine is content delivery the
content is normally not an issue, I also have not had to use FSS so I
cant comment on that.

Regards

Chris

Shani Oren schrieb:
> Hi All,
> 
> I upgraded my site to 3.1.5.1 and then I tried (actualy just to see if

> I can do that as a disaster recovery strategy) import the entire site 
> from my 3.0.6 release. But that does not work
> 
for desaster recovery you best use a whole Data.fs file.
The chances that you can downgrade a site however are small. independent
of what method migth use.
robert

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Re: automatic change folder id by Plone

You claim that Plone changes the shortnames for a given object after having 
it created using invokeFactory(portal_type, id='12345') and then edited 
through-the-web?

-aj

--On 1. September 2008 09:34:09 +0200 Mirco Angelini
<mirco1985@...> 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I created a series of folder through a python script setting id as a
> number and title as a phrase.
> But if I save the folder, even without having made changes, through the
> edit of Plone it change the id and sect instead of my number the title of
> the folder.
> But then if I make further changes to Title id is always the same.
> Is fault that I put a number as id and Plone don't like it???
> Someone knows me explain this behavior and perhaps as not to be??
>
> Mirco Angelini

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Re: Firefox3 / Kupu problems still there in Plone3.1.5.1

Hi Sam,

Well after I cleared the cache Kupu stoped working at all.

All I get now in both FF and IE is just a blank edit box and nothing
works (I can't even go to HTML mode)

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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:34:49 +0300, Shani Oren wrote:

> FYI to however is working on this. After an Upgrade to Plone 3.1.5.1, 
> Kupu issues w Firefox 3.0 are still there - I cannot open the Images 
> or Intranel links boxes.

I always tell my clients using Kupu after upgrades to refresh their
cache (for FF, shift-reload while editing) as I suspect old Kupu
libraries can hang around. I've seen Kupu problems suddenly go away
after doing this.

--Sam.

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