new production server - buildout or source?

I'm setting up a new production server and I'm not quite sure if I should go
the source path or use buildout.  I've been using zope/plone for a few years
and have always built from source and dropped all my addons into the product
folder of the instance. I'm very comfortable with this method but sounds
like I should be moving to buildout. I have very little buildout experience
but have a couple of test instances on my server at home and it seems to
work ok.  I'm just not real clear or sure how to move the buildout to
production.  I've read a number of howto documents and posts in the forums
but still need a little advice.  Seems like most of the things I've read
tell you how to get a server running via buildout but not how to move to
production etc...  Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks
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Re: new production server - buildout or source?

ikcarr wrote:
> 
> I'm setting up a new production server and I'm not quite sure if I should
> go the source path or use buildout. 
> 

Installing most third-party products without a buildout is a P.I.T.A
nowadays - they're all eggified now.

On the other hand, using buildout makes everything much simpler even
compared to "unpack it into Products folder" approach.

To move from dev to production you do:

svn co svn://my.svn.server/thecoolsite/trunk/buildout
cd buildout
python2.4 bootstrap.py
bin/buildout -c production.cfg
bin/instance start

and that should be it. Transferring any updates from your dev machine to
production is as simple as

(...you may or may not want to do "bin/instance stop" here)
svn up
bin/buildout -c production.cfg
bin/instance restart

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Re: plone & zope on ubuntu

Why not make a dynamic virtualbox and avoid the closed nature to
appliances from a proprietary business model.

On Sep 30, 9:55 am, Chris Barnes <ch...@...> wrote:
> pozitronios wrote:
> > Uninstalled it and tried a fresh install using the unified installer. (ref:
> >http://plone.org/documentation/tutorial/installing-plone-3-with-the-u...)
>
> > But still cannot load localhost on my browser
>
> Actually, I had a GREAT thought this morning (note: I am NOT the one to
> do this, as I don't have the expertise)
>
> I use VMWare (alot).  On VMWare's website there are hundreds of
> "appliances" - basically a down-loadable (free) image of an OS
> preconfigured for some particular purpose.   Eg: an Ubuntu server w/
> apache & postfix already installed and configured (configured as much as
> it can be, w/o site specific info).
>
> Thus my idea:
> It would be *really nice* to have a VMWare appliance with Ubuntu (or
> Fedora or both) with apache, postfix, and PLONE  (with apache already
> configured to use PLONE).
>
> Question: how hard would this be?  Ie. is there so much configuration
> that it would be prohibitively difficult to create such an appliance?
>
> PS: having it setup to use https would be REALLY nice, but getting
> certificate information might be too much ask in a generic install.
>

Re: Load balancing with ZEO behind Apache on a Win 2.3k server

Hyperthreading may work for some computer processes, but it comes with
overhead that can negate any gains. It is virtual: The "real" processor must
act as traffic cop to allow time slices from two virtual processors. In the
case of Plone, you are better off turning off HT so the native processor can
run at full speed.

Dan

Alberto Lopes wrote:
> 
> Dear Laurence, 
> 
> Thank you very much for your response.  It helped me already, but I've
> still got some questions, and I hope you can help me learn a little more:
> 
> 1 - Why does turning off HT help?
> 
> 
> 

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Google analyitics

hello all
I want to use Google Analytics Product for Plone 2.5
I've installed Product, but don't know, how t use it.
can anyone tell me its usage/ how to use it, as it's README doesn't contains
anything .

Thanks

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Re: Google analyitics

Take the script given by google and paste as indicated.

By navigating such: zmi  "plonesite"/portal_skins/plone_templates/
main_template . . . adding to
bottom after having pressed customize ::::

       <metal:footer use-macro="here/footer/macros/portal_footer">
          Footer
        </metal:footer>

        <metal:colophon use-macro="here/colophon/macros/colophon">
          The colophon area - contains details about the production of
          the site. Typically "powered by" buttons, standards, tools
used.
        </metal:colophon>
      </metal:block>

    </div>
<script src="http://www.google-analytics.com/urchin.js" type="text/
javascript">
</script>
<script type="text/javascript">
_uacct = "UA-1161061-1";
urchinTracker();
</script>
</body>
</html>
</metal:page>

On Oct 6, 5:53 am, monks <mayankmat...@...> wrote:

Re: plone and vista

 Hi everyone,

I have Vista Business Edition, don't wanna change to XP again. So the story
come like this. First I've installed ZOPE 2.11.1, which is supposed to be
the latest version by now. Then for curiosity pourposes I've intall XAMPP so
I can used apache, and my sql for other CMS. Now I'm trying to see how Plone
Works. So I've installed Plone 3.0. (I'm new with this also) as I understand
this Plone has already a Zope version, and now I'm going to uninstall my
first Zope. I hope this works, but just following the last post, about
running Plone as Administrator, I did so, and for some WEIRD reason, In the
Plone Controller, status said: Plone is not running so I clicked on START
PLONE button, and when I changed tabs it went back again to not running!,
and if it doesn't change, when I click on View PLONE it goes to
http://localhost/xampp/.

well that's about it,  I'm hopping to make this work after I install all
over again! But if somebody has done all of these before, it could be a lot
of help telling me what to do next.

Please somebody write back! I wish there could be a HOW-TO install PLONE for
beginners, step by step, There's a big need for that!

Thank you all

best regards
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Re: plone and vista

I did it! :clap: 

I've uninstalled the Zope I had first and then change the port so I could
keep my xampp and now I see plone an the ZMI =^D

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ZEO cluster filestorage and blobstorage security when zeoserver effective-user = zeo and when client1 shared-blob = on

I'm not sure whether this message is better suited to
plone-developers@... or
setup@... but here
goes...

Experimenting with Plone-3.1.5.1-ex-r2-UnifiedInstaller from launchpad

Re
<http://dev.plone.org/plone/browser/Installers/UnifiedInstaller/trunk/HISTORY.txt?rev=22529>:

> - Set up root-install cluster to run ZEO and clients under
> separate user ids. Don't allow clients access to filestorage.

and <http://dev.plone.org/plone/changeset/22467>:

> Tighten cluster security by using a different user for ZEO;
> restructure var/ so that clients don't need to write to anything
> but their own subdirectories. 

If we plone.app.blob to the mix, and 
if (I guess) ZEO clients should similarly be denied access to blobstorage, 
then focusing on
<http://dev.plone.org/plone/browser/Installers/UnifiedInstaller/trunk/buildout_templates/cluster.cfg?rev=22688#L318>
lines 318 and 319 one *might*:

-    chown -R ${zeoserver:effective-user}
${buildout:directory}/var/filestorage
-    chmod 700 ${buildout:directory}/var/filestorage
+    chown -R ${zeoserver:effective-user}

Shibboleth and Plon