Any modification to zope styles does nothing

Hello All,

I am now banging my head against the wall. I have followed several tutorials 
and have been at this for hours, but any modifications I do to any *.ccs.dtml 
file does nothing. I even moved the plone_styles folder in skins to my home 
directory and restarted the instance. Nothing. I just want to see something 
happen, I don't care what. I'd be relieved to simply break my plone. If I 
don't see a change, I can't experiment. Its now been about three or four 
hours. I'm tempted to delete the entire Products directory just to see if I 
can affect a change in the appearance of the site.

I'm running Plone-2.5.3 on OS X 10.4 behind the stock apache. If anyone cares, 
the instance is at platinum.colorado.edu/Crystal. I'm running in debug mode. 
I'm still experimenting, so keep that in mind if you navigate the site.

I'm very proficient in python, and fairly proficient in html and css, and have 
read half a book on zope, so I have a reasonable feel for how it works. I'm 
not breaking my plone. The problem is--nothing is happening. I know this is 
the correct plone instance, because I have successfully installed a skin (its 
listed in the Skins configuration page) and I have put no other instances of 
plone on the computer. But I can't see any changes.

All I really want to do to change some colors and get rid of the calendar and 
the recent changes element and, of course, change the logo. I'm not so 
interested in the particulars of how to do any one of these, I'm more 
concerned about the general problem of making changes to style sheets and 
seeing the effects. I've followed the MySkin tutorial and do not want to face 
further frustration with the DIY tutorial, because its essentially the same 
as the MySkin.

Re: Any modification to zope styles does nothing

On Thu, 31 May 2007 23:07:15 -0700, James Stroud  
<jstroud@...> wrote:

> I am now banging my head against the wall. I have followed several  
> tutorials
> and have been at this for hours, but any modifications I do to any  
> *.ccs.dtml
> file does nothing.

 From what I read, you didn't mention whether you were in debug mode inside  
portal_css (there's a checkbox at the top).

Double check that first. :)

Also, do template changes show up? Try customizing document_view and put  
in some sample text, for instance.

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RE: Re: Migration from Plone 2.1.2. to Plone 2.5.3

> -----Original Message-----
> From: setup-bounces@... 
> [mailto:setup-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Maurits van Rees
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:00 PM
.........
> 
> Yes, something goes wrong in the PlonePAS install while 
> updating local role assignments.  But why?  You could search 
> for the string 'atoi' in the member and groups search form 
> and in the search form of the site. Maybe a strange username 
> or some content is in the way.  That would surprise me though.
.........

Thank you again Maurits,
(and all helped me). With your suggestions I have first searched the
"atoi" string in user/gruops and with the search folder without result,
then I have added (don't blame me, i am a very rough programmer) a
"print o.id" at line 180 of PluggableAuthService\extension\upgrade.py
and in debug mode I have found the problematic folder (or files in the
folder, I didn't investigate deeper): it isn't important so I dropped
it. The strange thing (for me) is that this folder is not in the Plone
site, it is a Zope Folder, and it didn't seem anyway corrupted. I can't
say if this folder was imported with a zexp, as M. Killerich suggested.
Michele 

Re: Re: Any modification to zope styles does nothing

On Jun 1, 2007, at 12:08 AM, Alexander Limi wrote:

> From what I read, you didn't mention whether you were in debug mode  
> inside portal_css (there's a checkbox at the top).
>
> Double check that first. :)
>

Strangely enough, I get the following (cut-and-pasted) text in the  
plone_control_panel page:

   """Note: You are running in "debug mode". This mode is intended  
for sites that are under development. This allows many configuration  
changes to be immediately evident, but will make your site run more  
slowly. To turn off debug mode, edit your zope.conf file to say  
'debug-mode off' — then restart the server process."""

However, the check box you mention is not checked. I'm not sure what  
the difference could be.

Further examination of the page reveals that ploneCustom.css is  
listed last, suggesting that style sheet precedence runs top of the  
page (lower) to bottom of the page (higher), consistent with myriad  
pages on the web...

=== several seconds elapse ===

I have now made certain that all boxes are checked on the page...

=== a couple more seconds elapse ===

Re: Migration from Plone 2.1.2. to Plone 2.5.3

Zanotti Michele, on 2007-06-01:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: setup-bounces@... 
>> [mailto:setup-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Maurits van Rees
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:00 PM
> .........
>> 
>> Yes, something goes wrong in the PlonePAS install while 
>> updating local role assignments.  But why?  You could search 
>> for the string 'atoi' in the member and groups search form 
>> and in the search form of the site. Maybe a strange username 
>> or some content is in the way.  That would surprise me though.
> .........
>
> Thank you again Maurits,
> (and all helped me). With your suggestions I have first searched the
> "atoi" string in user/gruops and with the search folder without result,
> then I have added (don't blame me, i am a very rough programmer) a
> "print o.id" at line 180 of PluggableAuthService\extension\upgrade.py
> and in debug mode I have found the problematic folder (or files in the
> folder, I didn't investigate deeper): it isn't important so I dropped
> it. The strange thing (for me) is that this folder is not in the Plone
> site, it is a Zope Folder, and it didn't seem anyway corrupted. I can't
> say if this folder was imported with a zexp, as M. Killerich suggested.
> Michele 

I saw yesterday at a client where I was doing a migration from 2.1 to
2.5 that there is a step in the upgrade that replaces the acl_users
folder from Zope (so outside your Plone site) with a new one.  Before
or during that replacement the migration seems to go through *all*

Re: Plone 2.5.1 error sending password email from join_form

I have been considering upgrading to 2.5.3, but I'm a Linux noob so I'm a bit
hesitant.  I hoped I'd get some confirmation as to why the problem happens
so I'd know if an upgrade would fix it.

I have some questions about migration, so maybe I'll post those in a
separate message rather than hijaacking this thread.

Thanks,
Bob

Alex Clark-2 wrote:
> 
> Is upgrading to 2.5.3 an option? I'm not sure what's going on but 
> I don't see the problem on my site (http://aclark.net).
> 
> 

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basic questions for minor upgrade (2.5.1 to 2.5.3)

I'm psyching myself up to migrate my Linux Plone site from 2.5.1 to 2.53. 
I'm new to Linux, so everything from making back up copies to shutting down
Plone has a learning curve. I've found some good reference sites with
specific command syntax, so I think I'm almost ready to dive in.

But before I do I need some clarification:

-  Can I upgrade straight from 2.5.1 to 2.5.3, or do I need to step to 2.5.2
first, then 2.5.3?  This isn't clear in the doc I've found.

-  The readme for the Linux Unified Installer says that "installer-based
automatic upgrades are not supported", and I'll have to copy over my Data.fs
and third-party products to a new folder.  But the upgrade doc I found on
plone.org says that if you're using "the installers", you shouldn't have to
worry about that.  I know the Windows installer just "overwrote" my existing
Plone files with the upgrades.  

It makes it sound like I've got to effectively do a new Plone installation
just to migrate.  If so, then I've got to really plan for my site to be down
a while, especially if I've got to step to 2.5.2 first. 

Thanks for any guidance, 
Bob

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Re: basic questions for minor upgrade (2.5.1 to 2.5.3)

bmoon wrote:
> -  Can I upgrade straight from 2.5.1 to 2.5.3, or do I need to step to 2.5.2
> first, then 2.5.3? 

You can upgrade straight from any supported old version (2.5.1) to the 
new version (2.5.3), the upgrade procedure will go through all 
intermediate steps.

> -  The readme for the Linux Unified Installer says that "installer-based
> automatic upgrades are not supported", and I'll have to copy over my Data.fs
> and third-party products to a new folder.  But the upgrade doc I found on
> plone.org says that if you're using "the installers", you shouldn't have to
> worry about that. 

The recommended procedure is documented in:
http://plone.org/documentation/manual/upgrade-guide

I don't think this document says that.

> It makes it sound like I've got to effectively do a new Plone installation
> just to migrate.

Yes, and move Data.fs over and so on.

 > If so, then I've got to really plan for my site to be down
> a while

You should prepare the upgrade in a test environment. Once it's all 
prepared, repeating the procedure in the production environment 
shouldn't take more than a couple of minutes downtime.

Re: Initial admin's password not working

Re: basic questions for minor upgrade (2.5.1 to 2.5.3)

René Pijlman wrote:
> 
> The recommended procedure is documented in:
> http://plone.org/documentation/manual/upgrade-guide
> 
> I don't think this document says that.
> 

Actually, my quote was from Step 3 "General Procedure" of the upgrade guide
you referenced.

René Pijlman wrote:
> 
> You should prepare the upgrade in a test environment. Once it's all 
> prepared, repeating the procedure in the production environment 
> shouldn't take more than a couple of minutes downtime.
> 

My "test environment" has been a Windows installation I had. It worked for
learning Plone, but I guess it's not a real test environment for upgrades. 
I don't have immediate access to another Linux box, and the one I have isn't
completely under my control.  I guess I'll just have to do more prep work
before I can tackle the upgrade. <sigh>

Thanks for your help,
Bob

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