Missing German Translation String for "we can send you a new one" (password)

At /login_form there‘s a missing translation in German (French, i.e.  
works) for the string "we can send you a new  
one" (label_click_here_to_retrieve).

The string is there in plone-de.po though it‘s marked as fuzzy.

Plone 3.3rc5
plone.app.locales 3.3.3

http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/9413

The thing is, that it's not a missing translation, this string just  
doesn't show up. Or am I missing something? Maybe someone can have a  
look and find out what's wrong.

Martin
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day 
trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on 
what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with 
Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july

Re: Missing German Translation String for "we can send you a new one" (password)

Strings marked as fuzzy does not show up.

Am 06.08.2009 um 11:33 schrieb Martin Stadler:

> At /login_form there‘s a missing translation in German (French, i.e.
> works) for the string "we can send you a new
> one" (label_click_here_to_retrieve).
>
> The string is there in plone-de.po though it‘s marked as fuzzy.
>
> Plone 3.3rc5
> plone.app.locales 3.3.3
>
>
>
> http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/9413
>
> The thing is, that it's not a missing translation, this string just
> doesn't show up. Or am I missing something? Maybe someone can have a
> look and find out what's wrong.
>
>
>
> Martin
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008  
> 30-Day
> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and  
> focus on
> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with

Re: Missing German Translation String for "we can send you a new one" (password)

I see.

I think the translation for
     "If you have forgotten your password, we can send you a new one."
with
     "Sollten Sie Ihr Passwort vergessen haben, fordern Sie ein neues  
an."
is ok and not too fuzzy. I tried to remove the "fuzzy" comment and  
restartet Zope but the string still didn't show up. Do I have to clear  
some cache?

What do you think of the translation? What would be the process to  
remove the fuzzy comment from the official version?

Martin

Am 06.08.2009 um 11:46 schrieb Jan Ulrich Hasecke:

> Strings marked as fuzzy does not show up.
>
> Am 06.08.2009 um 11:33 schrieb Martin Stadler:
>
>> At /login_form there‘s a missing translation in German (French, i.e.
>> works) for the string "we can send you a new
>> one" (label_click_here_to_retrieve).
>>
>> The string is there in plone-de.po though it‘s marked as fuzzy.
>>
>> Plone 3.3rc5
>> plone.app.locales 3.3.3

Re: Missing German Translation String for "we can send you a new one" (password)

Am 06.08.2009 um 12:56 schrieb Martin Stadler:

> I see.
>
> I think the translation for
>    "If you have forgotten your password, we can send you a new one."
> with
>    "Sollten Sie Ihr Passwort vergessen haben, fordern Sie ein neues  
> an."
> is ok and not too fuzzy. I tried to remove the "fuzzy" comment and  
> restartet Zope but the string still didn't show up. Do I have to  
> clear some cache?
>
> What do you think of the translation? What would be the process to  
> remove the fuzzy comment from the official version?

The real problem is that it is simple wrong. The password is not sent  
to the user in a default configuration.

You will get a link to a page where you can set a new one.

So it would be better to extend the ticket in this sense.

juh

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Re: Missing German Translation String for "we can send you a new one" (password)

Ok, I got it to work by
  1. delete var/instance/pts where all the .mo files are generated
  2. restart Zope twice to generate new .mo files and switch to the  
correct language again

Am 06.08.2009 um 12:56 schrieb Martin Stadler:

> I see.
>
> I think the translation for
>     "If you have forgotten your password, we can send you a new one."
> with
>     "Sollten Sie Ihr Passwort vergessen haben, fordern Sie ein neues
> an."
> is ok and not too fuzzy. I tried to remove the "fuzzy" comment and
> restartet Zope but the string still didn't show up. Do I have to clear
> some cache?
>
> What do you think of the translation? What would be the process to
> remove the fuzzy comment from the official version?
>
> Martin
>
>
> Am 06.08.2009 um 11:46 schrieb Jan Ulrich Hasecke:
>
>> Strings marked as fuzzy does not show up.
>>
>> Am 06.08.2009 um 11:33 schrieb Martin Stadler:
>>

Re: Missing German Translation String for "we can send you a new one" (password)

Am 06.08.2009 um 13:21 schrieb Jan Ulrich Hasecke:

>
> Am 06.08.2009 um 12:56 schrieb Martin Stadler:
>
>> I see.
>>
>> I think the translation for
>>   "If you have forgotten your password, we can send you a new one."
>> with
>>   "Sollten Sie Ihr Passwort vergessen haben, fordern Sie ein neues  
>> an."
>> is ok and not too fuzzy. I tried to remove the "fuzzy" comment and  
>> restartet Zope but the string still didn't show up. Do I have to  
>> clear some cache?
>>
>> What do you think of the translation? What would be the process to  
>> remove the fuzzy comment from the official version?
>
> The real problem is that it is simple wrong. The password is not  
> sent to the user in a default configuration.
>
> You will get a link to a page where you can set a new one.
>
> So it would be better to extend the ticket in this sense.
>
> juh

If the UI or the original English wording, respectively, is broken  

Re: Missing German Translation String for "we can send you a new one" (password)

Am 06.08.2009 um 13:29 schrieb Martin Stadler:
> If the UI or the original English wording, respectively, is broken  
> that can't be the problem of the translation. Still, a correct  
> translation of something that is wrong in the original is better  
> than just let the user read the wrong English term, I think.
>

Agreed. The problem is that each time the original string is altered  
the msg get the tag fuzzy. This is to inform the translators that they  
should check the translation accordingly.

We never tried to "translate" the original strings because they are  
often bad. We often had to write from scratch looking for what is  
really happening.

I removed the fuzzy and checked it into svn.

> Also I wouldn't say the translation is fuzzy if the original message  
> is fuzzy or plain wrong.
>
> Of course you're right that this should be fixed in the original  
> template but as a user I wouldn't be too confused if it reads that  
> I'll get a new password but they tell me how to set up a new one  
> myself instead.
>

Looking into the original messages would be a nice task for the tune- 
ups.

Re: Missing German Translation String for "we can send you a new one" (password)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day 
trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on 
what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with 
Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july

_______________________________________________
Plone-i18n mailing list
Plone-i18n@...
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-i18n

Portuguese Translation of Plone Manual

Hello all!

	I am Felipe Roquette, I own a Brazilian company devoted to create
beautiful, functional and easy to use websites. This semester we decided
that we would focus our development towards Plone based websites.
        I saw the Plone 3 User Manual at plone.org and I have some
questions:
        - is there a portuguese version of this manual?
        - is there someone translating this manual to portuguese?
        - am I aloud to contribute with a portuguese translation?
        I read at [1] that "All content is copyright Plone Foundation
and the individual contributors.", is this a restricted copyright
license? Or is a copyright more like the GNU Free Documentation License
[2]?
        I am asking all that because we need a portuguese version of
this manual for our clients/users and we are thinking to translate this
manual (only if it is possible of course). We also would like to make it
available at the plone.org.

[1] http://plone.org/documentation/manual/plone-3-user-manual
[2] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-doc.html

Greetings,
Felipe Roquette

________________________________________________________________________
Krei Tecnologia Ltda
www.krei.com.br

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day 
trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on 
what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with 
Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july

Translation of collective.amberjack

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day 
trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on 
what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with 
Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july

_______________________________________________
Plone-i18n mailing list
Plone-i18n@...
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-i18n