Basic questions re: LinguaPlone

Hello,

I've been reading the LP documentation, but I have some really newbie
questions about it that I'm not quite getting an answer to. 

When you install LP, are all languages magically available to your site, or
do you have to specifically say "I want to turn on French, Spanish and
Swahili?" 

Does it differentiate between Spanish from Spain vs Spanish from Mexico vs
Spanish from Guatemala? If not, can I override the base Spanish stuff to be
regionally correct? 

Does it magically translate my content? I assume no, since there is a
mysterious i18ndude app out there. Speaking of which, I can't figure out how
to install it. I have not found any directions on how to install yet... I'm
on Mac OSX and a bit new to python and don't how to use eggs.

Many thanks!

- Veda
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Re: Basic questions re: LinguaPlone

By the way, I do see this in the documentation, but I don't understand what
this means. Also, what is the Cheese Shop? 

You can simply install it via "easy_install i18ndude".

Some small refinements to setup.py. i18ndude is now registered in the
      Cheese Shop and you can get the current development version just by
      typing 'easy_install i18ndude' :)
      [hannosch] 

Thanks,

- Veda

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Re: Basic questions re: LinguaPlone

vedawms wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've been reading the LP documentation, but I have some really newbie
> questions about it that I'm not quite getting an answer to. 
> 
> When you install LP, are all languages magically available to your site, or
> do you have to specifically say "I want to turn on French, Spanish and
> Swahili?" 

in your plone contol panel there should be a language configuration 
settings where you can decide which languages are supported in your site.

> 
> Does it differentiate between Spanish from Spain vs Spanish from Mexico vs
> Spanish from Guatemala? If not, can I override the base Spanish stuff to be
> regionally correct? 

There is a setting to whether these should be honored. I don't quite 
know the effect it has for language negotiation, though.

> Does it magically translate my content? I assume no, since there is a
> mysterious i18ndude app out there. Speaking of which, I can't figure out how
> to install it. I have not found any directions on how to install yet... I'm
> on Mac OSX and a bit new to python and don't how to use eggs.

LP doesnt translate content. Neither does i18ndude. i18ndude helps you 
find untranslated strings in your templates ( say if you are building a 
product) to make for easier translation of user-interfaces.

Re: Basic questions re: LinguaPlone

Gotcha...

And I think I've got the eggs thing straight too.

Thanks!

- Veda
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Re: Translation of static content

Hi,

it is imperative for me that my original question is being addressed. 
I've sighted much other material including D.Convents suggested ones but 
found no useful material. Please answer my original question if possible...

Origninal question:

if ve static portlets created due to plone.org howto. now i ve to add 
2nd language translation. however portlet logic does not include that. 
So, some conditions have to be added. For example for the 2nd language:
<div tal:condition="python:request.other.get ('LANGUAGE', 'de') == 'de'">

BUT:
how do i access the (for example german) title and body in that specific 
language of an object?

i assume i ve to add something to this line:
<span tal:content="here/title_or_id">Title</span>

but i dont know where TALES expressions are documented nor which 
commands to add after the "here/" expression. Any help would be greatly appreciated???

thanks,
lr

Plone is 2.1
LinguaPlone 0.8.5
LanguageTool 0.7

Trouble with switching languages

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Error when trying to translate

Hi there,
I'm getting the following error message when I'm trying to translate my 
types:

Traceback (innermost last):
   Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 114, in publish
   Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
   Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 40, in call_object
   Module Products.CMFFormController.FSControllerPythonScript, line 109, 
in __call__
   Module Products.CMFFormController.Script, line 141, in __call__
   Module Products.CMFCore.FSPythonScript, line 108, in __call__
   Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 311, in __call__
   Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 348, in _bindAndExec
   Module Products.CMFCore.FSPythonScript, line 164, in _exec
   Module None, line 12, in createTranslation
    - <FSControllerPythonScript at /isesite/createTranslation used for 
/isesite/geschaftsfelder-und-marktbereiche/geschaftsfelder-und-marktbereiche>
    - Line 12
   Module Products.LinguaPlone.I18NBaseObject, line 121, in addTranslation
AttributeError: translation_mutator

I checked with a folderish type that is closely related to ATFolder 
(just two additional boolean fields). Apparently the error is related to 
using the index attribute on the boolean fields and then making those 
fields languageIndependent (see code below). I have this error on 
another type which does not have any indexes in it, but I thought I'd go 
one by one... does anybody know how I can solve the issue? Do I have to 
create a mutator (whatever that is)?
Greets
Christian

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Translating files

Hi,

I have a bunch of Word files; files which lose their formatting if I  
post them as plain text. I was thinking about uploading them as files  
and "translating" them with linguaplone, but somehow the files are  
language agnostic; the only thing I can translate is the description.  
Is there a way to post different files for each language?

A.

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Re: Translating files

On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:33:31 -0800, Arnór Kristjánsson  
<addi <at> addihetja.com> wrote:

> I have a bunch of Word files; files which lose their formatting if I
> post them as plain text. I was thinking about uploading them as files
> and "translating" them with linguaplone, but somehow the files are
> language agnostic; the only thing I can translate is the description.
> Is there a way to post different files for each language?

By default, Files are treated as being language-independent. If you want  
language-dependent files, you have to change the schema definition or  
create your own type that does this.

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