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Nick Rothwell | 2 May 22:33
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SnipSnap stirs

I posted a message a few weeks ago asking about the state/availability  
of the SnipSnap source code, and since there was recently a spate of  
postings about moving away from SnipSnap, I thought I'd follow up.

I've got a copy of the fork made by Paulo Abrantes (http://www.pabrantes.net 
), and it compiles cleanly apart from a handful of deprecation  
warnings. (It uses a JAR of Radeox, but I have that in source form as  
well - I've not tried building it yet.)

The build process is geared towards standalone operation using Jetty,  
but it's possible to punt the JARs and configs of an instance into  
Tomcat without too much difficulty; I now have it running in Tomcat 6.  
(It might also be possible to do the initial config from Tomcat as  
well - I didn't try that, and I'd expect the setup and copying scripts  
for Jetty to mess things up a bit - but new instance creation seems to  
work fine.)

Connection to MySQL works fine - after years of Mckoidb, it's nice to  
be able to run an SQL client and see what's going on - and I managed  
to import a few site XMLs happily, apart from one or two wrinkles to  
do with entity encoding.

It's not 100% plain sailing - there were a few false starts and some  
EL tag whines while I moved things around - but my feeling at this  
stage is that the SnipSnap code base is pretty serviceable. I don't  
know how it *works*, but that's an issue for another day.

I think Paulo deserves the credit for keeping SnipSnap alive - I don't  
know if he's on this list, but I've dropped him a line to see what his  
plans are.
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Scott Heaberlin | 3 May 00:41
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Atlassian Confluence (was Re: SnipSnap stirs)

I believe someone on this list mentioned that Atlassian Confluence was
based on SnipSnap and perhaps provides an import-from-snipsnap-xml
feature.

Has anyone on this list done that?  Any success / horror stories?

-Scott Heaberlin

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Nick Rothwell <nick <at> cassiel.com> wrote:
> I posted a message a few weeks ago asking about the state/availability of
> the SnipSnap source code, and since there was recently a spate of postings
> about moving away from SnipSnap, I thought I'd follow up.
>
>  I've got a copy of the fork made by Paulo Abrantes
> (http://www.pabrantes.net), and it compiles cleanly apart from a handful of
> deprecation warnings. (It uses a JAR of Radeox, but I have that in source
> form as well - I've not tried building it yet.)
>
>  The build process is geared towards standalone operation using Jetty, but
> it's possible to punt the JARs and configs of an instance into Tomcat
> without too much difficulty; I now have it running in Tomcat 6. (It might
> also be possible to do the initial config from Tomcat as well - I didn't try
> that, and I'd expect the setup and copying scripts for Jetty to mess things
> up a bit - but new instance creation seems to work fine.)
>
>  Connection to MySQL works fine - after years of Mckoidb, it's nice to be
> able to run an SQL client and see what's going on - and I managed to import
> a few site XMLs happily, apart from one or two wrinkles to do with entity
> encoding.
>
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Jay Ballinger | 3 May 01:12
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Re: SnipSnap stirs

I, too, have a modified SnipSnap running for our workgroup wiki. I've 
taken 1.0b2 and stripped out the jetty stuff to make it work as a war 
running on Tomcat, or Resin, or whatever. There was a little pain in 
there with older code standards and techniques, but I do have the source 
and an ant script.

I would truly like to see a community grow up around a reborn SnipSnap. 
There are features I would like to see added and tweaked that I am sure 
would be beneficial to others. I remember the emails flying around about 
a Sourceforge repository, but have never seen any movement.

I'll keep a candle burning for the day that development of SnipSnap 
continues in some fashion. I would be more than happy to participate in 
the new development, but feel unsure about leading the open source effort.

+ jay

Nick Rothwell wrote:
> I posted a message a few weeks ago asking about the state/availability 
> of the SnipSnap source code, and since there was recently a spate of 
> postings about moving away from SnipSnap, I thought I'd follow up.
> 
> I've got a copy of the fork made by Paulo Abrantes 
> (http://www.pabrantes.net), and it compiles cleanly apart from a handful 
> of deprecation warnings. (It uses a JAR of Radeox, but I have that in 
> source form as well - I've not tried building it yet.)
> 
> The build process is geared towards standalone operation using Jetty, 
> but it's possible to punt the JARs and configs of an instance into 
> Tomcat without too much difficulty; I now have it running in Tomcat 6.
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Andreas John | 3 May 09:11

Re: SnipSnap stirs

Hi All,
I am using Paulos branch for several months now with success. It's a 
great branch, he maintains. The only reason he branched was, that noone 
gave him cvs write access to any of the snip* - projects. but I 
rechecked today and see him being a member of snipsnip: 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/snipsnip/

Let's check which one is the better branch ;)

Best Regards,
derjohn

Nick Rothwell wrote:
> I posted a message a few weeks ago asking about the state/availability 
> of the SnipSnap source code, and since there was recently a spate of 
> postings about moving away from SnipSnap, I thought I'd follow up.
> 
> I've got a copy of the fork made by Paulo Abrantes 
> (http://www.pabrantes.net), and it compiles cleanly apart from a handful 
> of deprecation warnings. (It uses a JAR of Radeox, but I have that in 
> source form as well - I've not tried building it yet.)
> 
> The build process is geared towards standalone operation using Jetty, 
> but it's possible to punt the JARs and configs of an instance into 
> Tomcat without too much difficulty; I now have it running in Tomcat 6. 
> (It might also be possible to do the initial config from Tomcat as well 
> - I didn't try that, and I'd expect the setup and copying scripts for 
> Jetty to mess things up a bit - but new instance creation seems to work 
> fine.)
>
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Nick Rothwell | 4 May 14:28
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Re: SnipSnap stirs


On 3 May 2008, at 00:12, Jay Ballinger wrote:

> I, too, have a modified SnipSnap running for our workgroup wiki.  
> I've taken 1.0b2 and stripped out the jetty stuff to make it work as  
> a war running on Tomcat, or Resin, or whatever. There was a little  
> pain in there with older code standards and techniques, but I do  
> have the source and an ant script.

I'm still doing things manually by an "ant dist" and some manual  
unpacking - I don't totally have my head round the distribution format  
yet, and am wary of breaking things. Luckily, it seems to run self- 
contained inside a single Tomcat webapp - I don't need to make  
anything global (which would almost certainly break lots of stuff  
since I want to run Cocoon in the same Tomcat instance). So far, so  
good...

	-- N.

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Nick Rothwell | 4 May 14:30
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Re: SnipSnap stirs


On 3 May 2008, at 08:11, Andreas John wrote:

> but I rechecked today and see him being a member of snipsnip: http://sourceforge.net/projects/snipsnip/

Yep - no files there, unfortunately.

It also appears that the old site, snipsnap.org, is dead. There's a  
lot of content there, so it would be good to get a last, final, export  
of that to bring up as an archive.

	-- N.

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