Thomas Mohaupt | 2 Jun 10:49
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Re: snipsnap-users Digest, Vol 16, Issue 6

> > Hi,
> > I was thinking of using snipsnap for my research
> > study. Does anyone knows how to use/write macro to
> > parse xml file? Let say i have an XML file (i.e
> > announcement) and would like to display it in
> > snipsnap. The macro will be able to display the
> > announcement (an xml file) in the snipsnap
> > environment.
> > Anyone have any suggestion how can i do that?

Hi,

you may try my xsl macro, see http://www.snipsnap.org/space/ThoMo

ThoMo

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Håkan Sjögren | 12 Jun 09:03
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Re: Upload large files

I have problem uploading files larger than 15 Mb (e.g. a zip or rar-file). The upload starts (as I can see on our router) but suddenly ends. I then have a blank screen with the address field http://{server-name}/snipsnap/exec/upload


Is there a voluntary limitation or is this a bug?
-Håkan
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Matthias L. Jugel | 12 Jun 09:56
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Re: Upload large files

I guess your web browser has a timeout. it uploads the file but fails  
to receive data during that time as the file is processed by the  
upload servlet.

Leo.

On 12.06.2006, at 09:03, Håkan Sjögren wrote:

> I have problem uploading files larger than 15 Mb (e.g. a zip or rar- 
> file). The upload starts (as I can see on our router) but suddenly  
> ends. I then have a blank screen with the address field http:// 
> {server-name}/snipsnap/exec/upload
>
> Is there a voluntary limitation or is this a bug?
> -Håkan
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Jan Galinski | 14 Jun 15:10

State of Development

Hi everyone ,

I just installed snipsnap and want to use it as a personal "keep and
manage" tool for notes, ideas, tutorials etc.
I have some ideas for further dev (like latex export, some macros,
syntax extensions) but after looking at snipsnap.org and radeox.org I
am beginning to doubt that this project is still alive.

So my question: Is there continuous development of snipsnap and
radeox? Can one expect that an active community will share themes,
macros , discuss directions and so on?
I dont want to store all my information in a dead system and migrate
in a few month.

Thanks
Jan
Jan Grant | 14 Jun 17:26
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Re: State of Development

On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Jan Galinski wrote:

> Hi everyone ,
> 
> I just installed snipsnap and want to use it as a personal "keep and
> manage" tool for notes, ideas, tutorials etc.
> I have some ideas for further dev (like latex export, some macros,
> syntax extensions) but after looking at snipsnap.org and radeox.org I
> am beginning to doubt that this project is still alive.
> 
> So my question: Is there continuous development of snipsnap and
> radeox? Can one expect that an active community will share themes,
> macros , discuss directions and so on?
> I dont want to store all my information in a dead system and migrate
> in a few month.

I think the problem is that snipsnap has never really geared up to 
working with external collaborators: whatever source-code 
reorganisations are required to make this possible just don't appear to 
have happened.

The above statement may not be true: however it reflects my perception 
as a developer who would be interested in getting involved with the 
project. I think that perception needs addressing as the top priority if 
snipsnap is to gain any momentum.

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Ryan Barrett | 14 Jun 19:33
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Re: State of Development

On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Jan Grant wrote:

>> So my question: Is there continuous development of snipsnap and radeox?
>> Can one expect that an active community will share themes, macros ,
...
> I think the problem is that snipsnap has never really geared up to working
> with external collaborators: whatever source-code reorganisations are
> required to make this possible just don't appear to have happened.

sadly, jan is right. there's a solid collection of themes, macros, and
knowledge about using and running snipsnap, but the community seems to be on
life support at best.

i've considered migrating a few times, but there aren't any killer bugs or
missing features (for me) that have made it worth the migration headache.
still, if you're starting from scratch, i can't recommend snipsnap in good
conscience when movabletype, wordpress, twiki, etc. are so much more active
and supported.

on a related note, here's a quick list i put together when i first looked
around for alternatives to snipsnap:

http://ryan.barrett.name/blog_wiki_packages_after_snipsnap

-Ryan

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Dirk Riehle | 14 Jun 19:54

Re: State of Development

Hi all,

if you want to meet the developers of SnipSnap, you can do so at this 
year's Wiki Symposium, see

http://www.wikisym.org/ws2006/

(Please note: Early registration deadline June 19 approaching!)

I'm bringing this up because WikiSym is the place where we might make 
a standardized wiki markup and a standardized data interchange format happen.

Dirk

At 14.06.2006, Jan Galinski wrote:
>Hi everyone ,
>
>I just installed snipsnap and want to use it as a personal "keep and
>manage" tool for notes, ideas, tutorials etc.
>I have some ideas for further dev (like latex export, some macros,
>syntax extensions) but after looking at snipsnap.org and radeox.org I
>am beginning to doubt that this project is still alive.
>
>So my question: Is there continuous development of snipsnap and
>radeox? Can one expect that an active community will share themes,
>macros , discuss directions and so on?
>I dont want to store all my information in a dead system and migrate
>in a few month.
>
>Thanks
>Jan
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Dirk Riehle | 14 Jun 19:55

Re: State of Development

So, Matthias and Stephan are obviously quite busy. (So busy, they 
didn't even advertise the Wiki Symposium here, which they are helping.)

I'm curious to ask the community on this list. Should these two guys 
go out and find a corporate sponsor that employs them fulltime to 
work on SnipSnap (or something like it)?

What would that mean for a license change? Away from GPL (for 
SnipSnap) towards what? What would you like to see to make SnipSnap a 
successful OSS project the way you like it.

Thanks,
Dirk

At 14.06.2006, Jan Grant wrote:
>On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Jan Galinski wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone ,
> >
> > I just installed snipsnap and want to use it as a personal "keep and
> > manage" tool for notes, ideas, tutorials etc.
> > I have some ideas for further dev (like latex export, some macros,
> > syntax extensions) but after looking at snipsnap.org and radeox.org I
> > am beginning to doubt that this project is still alive.
> >
> > So my question: Is there continuous development of snipsnap and
> > radeox? Can one expect that an active community will share themes,
> > macros , discuss directions and so on?
> > I dont want to store all my information in a dead system and migrate
> > in a few month.
>
>I think the problem is that snipsnap has never really geared up to
>working with external collaborators: whatever source-code
>reorganisations are required to make this possible just don't appear to
>have happened.
>
>The above statement may not be true: however it reflects my perception
>as a developer who would be interested in getting involved with the
>project. I think that perception needs addressing as the top priority if
>snipsnap is to gain any momentum.
>
>
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Matthias L. Jugel | 14 Jun 20:51
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Re: State of Development

Hello,

actually, we still develop on SnipSnap and try to find the best way  
to handle the project in future. Our difficulty is that most projects  
we have to work for at the moment do not involve SnipSnap. The idea  
Dirk has would help alot either keeps us working full-time at the  
project. We have different directions possible, ranging from plain  
team communication to knowledge management.

What we offer right now is that interested parties can help  
development by taking over certain modules of SnipSnap. We are in the  
process of extracting modules, like the storage backend (for  
different dbs etc.), some of the macro packages and one of the big  
issues is the web frontend which must move to a better framework.

Leo.

On 14.06.2006, at 19:55, Dirk Riehle wrote:

> So, Matthias and Stephan are obviously quite busy. (So busy, they
> didn't even advertise the Wiki Symposium here, which they are  
> helping.)
>
> I'm curious to ask the community on this list. Should these two guys
> go out and find a corporate sponsor that employs them fulltime to
> work on SnipSnap (or something like it)?
>
> What would that mean for a license change? Away from GPL (for
> SnipSnap) towards what? What would you like to see to make SnipSnap a
> successful OSS project the way you like it.
>
> Thanks,
> Dirk
>
>
>
> At 14.06.2006, Jan Grant wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Jan Galinski wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone ,
>>>
>>> I just installed snipsnap and want to use it as a personal "keep and
>>> manage" tool for notes, ideas, tutorials etc.
>>> I have some ideas for further dev (like latex export, some macros,
>>> syntax extensions) but after looking at snipsnap.org and  
>>> radeox.org I
>>> am beginning to doubt that this project is still alive.
>>>
>>> So my question: Is there continuous development of snipsnap and
>>> radeox? Can one expect that an active community will share themes,
>>> macros , discuss directions and so on?
>>> I dont want to store all my information in a dead system and migrate
>>> in a few month.
>>
>> I think the problem is that snipsnap has never really geared up to
>> working with external collaborators: whatever source-code
>> reorganisations are required to make this possible just don't  
>> appear to
>> have happened.
>>
>> The above statement may not be true: however it reflects my  
>> perception
>> as a developer who would be interested in getting involved with the
>> project. I think that perception needs addressing as the top  
>> priority if
>> snipsnap is to gain any momentum.
>>
>>
>> --
>> jan grant, ISYS, University of Bristol. http://www.bris.ac.uk/
>> Tel +44 (0)117 3317661   http://ioctl.org/jan/
>> Donate a signature: http://ioctl.org/jan/sig-submit
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On 15.06.2006, at 00:16, Jan Galinski wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Judging by all these cornerstones I will give it a try. Someone should
> post a "ping" message on the radeox page though, the main page still
> reads 2004
> .

The reason for the Radeox page not beeing updates has been answered  
by Stephan before. Radeox is feature-complete from our point of view.  
It is customizable, modular and already used in many projects. Might  
be a good idea to state that on the website.

Leo.

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