Merging mailing lists ...

Hi MoinMoin fans and developers,

I am planning to merge both mailing lists, esp. merging this one into the
users one.
There is a main reason for that - there is not much traffic on this list
that is really about development (esp. because we (the core team) do not
use it for this matter) but many questions by users which got confused and
chose the wrong list.

If you have any objections, just speak. Otherwise I will try to merge the
subscribers of this list into the main one in the next days, mark this one
read-only (for archive purposes) and correct the references on the wiki.

Kind regards,
Alexander

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MathML support?

Hello,

     I have been using MoinMoin as the web for my freshman
general physics course.  The latex parser is very useful
in writing exercises and solutions.  Thanks for everyone
that makes this working so nicely!  (In case you are curious,
see http://ping.phys.ntu.edu.tw/course/GPB2-2004/Exercise5.)

     Now I'd like to go one step further for next semester.
I wish to use the itex2MML tool to convert TeX-like math
markups into MathML, similar to the blog page
http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/blog/archives/000541.html

     For this to really work nicely, it has to work both
in blocks (like {{{#!math some math here}}} ) as well as
inline (like $\gamma \ge 1$ for any $\beta$.).  It seems
this has to go into wiki.py by introducing inline math
markups like $$... $$.  This may break the line-parsing
scheme in wiki.py.

     Am I thinking something totally crazy, or this is
a good thing to do?  I'm starting to write a math.py
parser (block mode only).  Your advices are appreciated.

Regards,
Ping

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writing a moin parser

are there any docs anywhere on writing a moin parser?  i.e. how a
parser fits in with the rest of moin, the interfaces, etc.

our users would like to be able to use a simpler wiki markup language
like in jspwiki.

thanks!

-jacob

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Automated Page Creation

Hi All,

I have been using http messages to create pages in a MoinMoin wiki under 
1.2.4.  Essentailly pretending to be a browser.  Now that the wiki has 
been upgraded to 1.3.4, my Python scripts no longer work because the 
various forms and methods have changed.

So, before I go and fix my scripts, I thought that I should check to see 
if there's a better way.

I have taken a very brief look at WikiRPC, but could not find a way of 
creating an attachment, so abandoned it. 

I've also tried to get PageEditor.SaveText to work, but will need an 
example or something.  All PageEditor constructors want a Request and 
all Request constructors want a Wiki Instance as a parameter.  Any 
examples out there or better ideas?

Craig

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Re: Re: integrating images

On 8 Jun, 2005, at 6:31, moin-devel-request <at> lists.sourceforge.net wrote:

>
>>> Doing a search for `image' in the default help pages of MoinMoin
>>> gives no hint how to integrate images into wiki pages.  Here I
>>> don't mean how to add an external link but how and where to put
>>> images into /usr/share/moin/mywiki (by the superuser).  Are there
>>> any guidelines or recommendations?
>>
>> There are basically 3 methods for showing an image:
>
> Thanks, but this doesn't really answer my question.  Assume that I
> want to integrate hundreds of images into my wiki, I wonder about the
> ideal location to store them?  What about
> <prefix>/moin/mywiki/data/img?  IMHO it should be a location *within*
> the `moin' tree.

Its not clear what is "integrate hundreds of images into my wiki". 
Describe how you are going to use the images in the wiki. Are you going 
to show them on one page? few pages?

>
>>   * use attachment:myimage.png
>
> Isn't the use of `attachment' deprecated due to potential security
> problems?

No its not.

Automated Page Creation

mirroring a MoinMoin wiki

Is there an easy way to mirror a MoinMoin wiki in a statical way, this
is, to get a non-editable snapshot which could be used, say, as a
local documentation of an API to be distributed with a library?

    Werner

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integrating images

Doing a search for `image' in the default help pages of MoinMoin gives
no hint how to integrate images into wiki pages.  Here I don't mean
how to add an external link but how and where to put images into
/usr/share/moin/mywiki (by the superuser).  Are there any guidelines
or recommendations?

    Werner

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[ moin-Feature Requests-832309 ] improve GUI with vector graphics

Feature Requests item #832309, was opened at 2003-10-29 12:34
Message generated for change (Comment added) made by alexanderweb
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Category: None
Group: None
>Status: Closed
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Markus Elfring (elfring)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: improve GUI with vector graphics

Initial Comment:
Do you use VML or SVG files for the icons and diagrams 
in the user interface?
- http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Overview.htm8
  http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/07/16/svg-
prescod.html

- http://www.w3.org/TR/NOTE-VML
  http://www.vector.org.uk/v164/vml164.htm
  http://www.vmlsource.com/

http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/vml/shape
/introduction.asp

- SVG Zone - Demos
  http://www.adobe.com/svg/demos/main.html
  http://www.adobe.com/svg/community/external.html

- Zimmer frei? - Dynamisch dynamische SVG 
Vektorgrafiken erstellen

http://entwickler.com/itr/online_artikel/psecom,id,332,n
odeid,69.html

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Comment By: Alexander Schremmer (alexanderweb)
Date: 2005-06-05 16:26

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We will reopen this issue when there is stable browser support.

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Re: Moin-devel digest, Vol 1 #585 - 1 msg

On 3 Jun, 2005, at 6:25, moin-devel-request <at> lists.sourceforge.net wrote:

> IMHO one of the weakest points in MoinMoin is how wiki.py parses the
> input.  Using regular expressions simply doesn't work properly for
> nested balanced expressions, and we have already far too many
> exceptions which nested expressions work, and which not.

Many exceptions?

>
> What do you think of using a completely different paradigm, namely to
> do bison-like parsing of the input data to get the appropriate tokens?

May be interesting, the current parser is a big mess, the current 
parser state is "fix here, break there".

> BTW, is any other part of MoinMoin dependent on wiki.py?  I mean, can
> I simply replace the HTML generating engine with a different one,
> similar to the `colorizing' parsers for other languages like C or C++?
> Where can I find the documentation of the affected interface?

wiki.py is a plugin - you can replace it with your parser.

Note that many people want to change the wiki syntax, specially the 
linking syntax. Maybe it better work first the syntax, and only then 
check what it the best way to parse it.

There is already a discussion on new parsers in the wiki, try to search 
for it.

Best Regards,

Nir Soffer

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handling paragraphs as long lines

IMHO one of the weakest points in MoinMoin is how wiki.py parses the
input.  Using regular expressions simply doesn't work properly for
nested balanced expressions, and we have already far too many
exceptions which nested expressions work, and which not.

What do you think of using a completely different paradigm, namely to
do bison-like parsing of the input data to get the appropriate tokens?

To use a solution in pure Python the following looks very promising:

  http://lava.net/~newsham/pyggy/html/pyggy.html

BTW, is any other part of MoinMoin dependent on wiki.py?  I mean, can
I simply replace the HTML generating engine with a different one,
similar to the `colorizing' parsers for other languages like C or C++?
Where can I find the documentation of the affected interface?

    Werner

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