Bruce Whealton | 1 Nov 2011 23:33
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[foaf-dev] Semantic MediaWiki and FOAF Project application help

Hello,
         I have a couple applications where I want to add the ability use some of the properties of the FOAF namespace.  So, this is both a Semantic MediaWiki issue and a FOAF and related vocabularies issue.
The first question is foaf related.  I thought of using foaf: Organization to represent everything I have in mine.  However, it doesn’t seem that a business that is a sole proprietorship is an Organization.  I thought I could extend the vocabulary and add Company, but what would company be a sub-class of?   
Specific example: A resource directory of services, organizations, agencies and etc. that services the needy and homeless.  A Church isn’t logically a Company.  However, they both are sub-classes of foaf:Group which is a subclass of foaf:Agent. 
So, to model this with Semantic Templates, should I have a separate template for each type of foaf:Agent, such as business, church, agency?  I think it would be better to have a field for type of Agent, or type of Group.
First, regarding SMW, what do you need to say that a page about a person is represented by the class foaf:Person.  I was using a Category of Category: Foaf:Person.   I also have [[imported from::foaf:Person]] inside the Category page, however the documentation does not say that should be done.  If one must use this in Properties, why not in Categories.  How does one specify that every member of this Category is a foaf:Person?
Thanks,
Bruce
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Dan Brickley | 11 Nov 2011 12:11

[foaf-dev] Fwd: [TinkerPop] FOSDEM 2012 - welcome

I'm not sure if I'll make it to FOSDEM next year, ... but for those
who will, this should be an interesting room. --Dan

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Date: 11 November 2011 11:08
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Hi all,
Pere Urbon and Jordi Valverde are organizing a graph processing room
at FOSDEM , see http://fosdem.org/2012/devrooms_for_2012

If anyone is feeling like OSS, beers, NOSQL, graphs and good relations
- let people know here!

Thanks Pere and Jordi - you guys rock it.

Cheers,

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Aidan Hogan | 17 Nov 2011 17:38
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[foaf-dev] FOAF functional datatype properties

Hi folks,

Just a not-so-quick email about FOAF functional datatype properties, namely

	foaf:age, foaf:birthday, foaf:gender

I'm wondering if it might make sense for the FOAF documentation to be a 
little more explicit/strict on what forms the values of these properties 
should take?

If a person has two slightly different values for the same such property 
(e.g., "Male", "male", "male" <at> en for gender; or "12-04", "12-4", 
"--12-04"^^xsd:gMonthDay for birthday; or so forth) this causes an 
inconsistency. Actually, this is great: we've been using this for 
figuring out when smushing goes wrong (e.g., smushing male and female 
users of opera).

However, I think the FOAF documentation should make it a little clearer 
what values it expects for these properties to avoid inadventent 
clashes. There is some guidance for gender and for birthday in the docs, 
so maybe it's sufficient to highlight the importance of keeping to 
recommended values, and maybe to discourage use of language tags for 
gender, make datatype (or lack thereof) recommendations explicit, etc.

Find attached stats extracted from use of these properties from the BTC 
11 corpus; a summary:
* foaf:age is very rarely used.
* foaf:gender is mainly used by opera and hi5, and keeps largely to 
"male"|"female" values; few language tags at the moment
* foaf:birthday is mainly used by hi5, but breaks the spec 
recommendation for "MM-DD" values, having instead e.g., "1-1", "3-12".

In summary, it's not a big problem at the moment, but it might be a good 
time to clarify issues around these properties earlier rather than 
later, and to emphasise the importance of consistency in values.

Cheers,
Aidan

P.S.,
Aside from legacy data, my preferences would be:
* a nonNegativeInteger value for age (or deprecate the property since it 
tends to go stale)
* a gYearMonth for birthday, and
* "male"|"female"|<other lowercase value> for gender. [no language tags]

...but it might be too late for that.
=====preds 3=====
http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/gender	1082195
http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/birthday	730825
http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/age	8
=====age values 7=====
21	2
26	1
45	1
8	1
From curl 2	1
abracadabra	1
indeterminate	1
=====gender values 11=====
male	586019
female	496103
	45
Male	8
male	8
male	4
female	3
m	2
Female	1
female	1
male	1
=====birthday values 378=====
1-1	39299
2-14	3304
12-31	2981
10-10	2446
2-2	2432
3-1	2432
1-10	2428
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9-1	2365
5-1	2347
8-1	2324
5-5	2311
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5-10	2286
6-6	2273
6-1	2268
3-3	2258
7-7	2255
2-1	2254
1-20	2246
8-10	2234
3-10	2216
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8-8	2187
1-15	2178
4-10	2169
4-20	2154
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9-9	2125
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2-10	2085
9-19	2084
7-10	2082
12-1	2078
9-27	2069
9-20	2064
1-2	2060
12-25	2052
9-22	2052
5-15	2051
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4-15	2039
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9-8	1932
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1-3	1916
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8-7	1901
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7-12	1882
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7-4	1880
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3-5	1878
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2-3	1876
3-16	1876
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10-6	1869
8-4	1869
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3-19	1867
8-6	1866
12-17	1865
6-12	1865
3-11	1864
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1-16	1861
1-24	1859
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8-19	1858
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5-8	1811
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8-9	1810
4-8	1809
11-8	1808
7-2	1808
3-12	1807
3-9	1806
3-4	1805
5-4	1805
6-22	1805
6-25	1805
2-26	1804
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1-8	1803
10-22	1802
2-12	1801
2-23	1801
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7-13	1800
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7-8	1796
5-23	1795
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10-23	1790
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12-15	1786
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2-16	1779
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9-3	1777
9-4	1777
7-9	1774
11-2	1773
3-29	1773
5-29	1772
6-8	1772
7-21	1770
12-16	1769
8-2	1769
6-27	1766
7-6	1766
3-7	1765
11-24	1763
10-7	1760
11-19	1759
12-3	1758
3-6	1758
4-21	1758
6-19	1757
12-8	1756
6-4	1756
11-6	1755
2-7	1751
7-31	1749
5-30	1746
3-30	1745
10-21	1743
11-26	1740
4-2	1740
11-12	1739
6-3	1739
11-9	1738
11-21	1737
12-27	1737
12-13	1735
7-3	1735
12-29	1734
2-9	1733
2-4	1731
10-13	1730
11-30	1729
7-30	1726
6-2	1725
12-26	1723
12-6	1722
10-11	1719
12-19	1718
12-2	1718
12-22	1717
11-14	1716
4-29	1715
10-19	1712
11-29	1711
11-7	1708
10-27	1707
11-3	1703
12-7	1699
12-4	1693
12-23	1692
2-8	1677
2-13	1674
3-31	1658
5-31	1656
12-11	1654
12-9	1645
12-30	1640
8-31	1629
2-29	383
03-24	2
09-09	2
09-18	2
10-01	2
03-31	1
05-02	1
05-30	1
07-26	1
07-29	1
09-29	1
1981-10-07	1
1981-11-25	1
=====age datatypes 1=====
none	8
=====gender datatypes t3=====
none	1082183
http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#Literal	11
http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string	1
=====birthday datatypes 2=====
none	730824
http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#gMonthDay	1
=====age language tags 1=====
none	8
=====gender language tags 2=====
none	1082190
en	5
=====birthday language tags 2=====
none	730824
en	1
=====age domain 3=====
mit.edu	5
ianmcorvidae.net	2
hu-berlin.de	1
=====gender domains 42=====
hi5.com	974322
opera.com	105227
johngoodwin.me.uk	2559
kasei.us	21
gnoss.com	11
myopenlink.net	10
vu.nl	5
hu-berlin.de	2
mindswap.org	2
nickshanks.com	2
openlinksw.com	2
openrdf.org	2
aelius.com	1
anjeve.de	1
b4mad.net	1
barkingiguana.com	1
bblfish.net	1
darcus.name	1
eyaloren.org	1
f00die.com	1
fcns.eu	1
fgiasson.com	1
gnowledge.org	1
ibiblio.org	1
idehen.name	1
inria.fr	1
kanzaki.com	1
kuruman.org	1
ldodds.com	1
mmt.me.uk	1
pipian.com	1
proofile.org	1
reallywow.com	1
semantic-web.at	1
simon-reinhardt.de	1
soton.ac.uk	1
staticfree.info	1
tramp.name	1
uni-leipzig.de	1
wchulseiee.net	1
webr3.org	1
wikier.org	1
=====birthday domains 15=====
hi5.com	730808
deri.ie	2
ianmcorvidae.net	2
myopenlink.net	2
bblfish.net	1
fcns.eu	1
fgiasson.com	1
jenitennison.com	1
mit.edu	1
pipian.com	1
proofile.org	1
tramp.name	1
wchulseiee.net	1
webr3.org	1
wikier.org	1
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