Jim Ley | 2 Aug 12:00 2005

Re: isPrimaryTopicOf and homepage


"Masahide Kanzaki" <post@...> wrote in 
message news:11579.6028906063$1122651501@...
> But if a homepage is the 'page' that contains information about a person 
> or
> organization etc.,

I think this would be a bad idea, homepage is one of the human readable 
IFP's that exist, and the only one that many groups will have - they're 
easily noticeable when wrong, unlike sha1sum's etc.  It shouldn't matter 
what people have at their homepage, just that it is a homepage, and groups 
and individuals should not be forced to create an information page just so 
they can use homepage.

foaf:homepage should be as wide as possible to encompass as many different 
interpretations as possible, as long as they're all IFP's to the 
person/group it doesn't matter what's there.

> A quick search shows that many people use foaf:homepage for their sites'
> top page (as I do), while some others for their profile pages...

both should be reasonable uses I think.

Jim. 

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Leo Sauermann | 5 Aug 11:31 2005

CFP: WS on the Semantic Desktop <at> ISWC - Last Call + Extended Deadline 8th August

============================CALL FOR PAPERS============================

                            1st Workshop on
                         The Semantic Desktop

          Next Generation Personal Information Management
                and Collaboration Infrastructure

                                at the
                 International Semantic Web Conference
                   6 November 2005, Galway, Ireland

                      http://www.semanticdesktop.org

                   Extended Deadline: 8th of August 2005

=======================================================================
[Important Dates and Submission Details]
=======================================================================
* Submissions due:               August 8, 2005 (extended date)
* Notification for acceptance:   September 1, 2005
* Camera ready due:              October 7, 2005
* Workshop date:                 November 6, 2005

Please follow the style guides according the Springer LNCS format
outlined at:
http://www.springeronline.com/sgw/cda/frontpage/0,11855,5-164-2-72376-0,00.html 

Technical papers should have max. 15 pages including references,
position papers should not exceed 5 pages. Papers can be associated
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Leo Sauermann | 5 Aug 11:35 2005

CFP: WS on the Semantic Desktop <at> ISWC - Last Call + Extended Deadline 8th August

============================CALL FOR PAPERS============================

                            1st Workshop on
                         The Semantic Desktop

          Next Generation Personal Information Management
                and Collaboration Infrastructure

                                at the
                 International Semantic Web Conference
                   6 November 2005, Galway, Ireland

                      http://www.semanticdesktop.org

                   Extended Deadline: 8th of August 2005

=======================================================================
[Important Dates and Submission Details]
=======================================================================
* Submissions due:               August 8, 2005 (extended date)
* Notification for acceptance:   September 1, 2005
* Camera ready due:              October 7, 2005
* Workshop date:                 November 6, 2005

Please follow the style guides according the Springer LNCS format
outlined at:
http://www.springeronline.com/sgw/cda/frontpage/0,11855,5-164-2-72376-0,00.html 

Technical papers should have max. 15 pages including references,
position papers should not exceed 5 pages. Papers can be associated
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Julian Bond | 8 Aug 10:52 2005

Wanted: Sample code for vcard to FOAF conversion

I was just looking at the VCard file exported by Skype. I wondered if 
anyone had written any code to convert Vcard to FOAF?

I'm hearing of more and more people who are using Skype and have dropped 
their other IM programs. Is it time for a foaf:skypeChatID ??

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Dan Brickley | 8 Aug 11:02 2005
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Re: Wanted: Sample code for vcard to FOAF conversion

Julian Bond wrote:

> I was just looking at the VCard file exported by Skype. I wondered if 
> anyone had written any code to convert Vcard to FOAF?
>
> I'm hearing of more and more people who are using Skype and have 
> dropped their other IM programs. Is it time for a foaf:skypeChatID ??

I'd support that. Anything with that scale of usage is worth the price 
of a new property,
I think. There's the question of whether they've a (proper) URI scheme, 
or plain string
property is best. I lean towards using just the string...

Dan

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Danny Ayers | 8 Aug 17:11 2005
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Re: responding to a new wave of anti-RDF sentiment

Hi Jo,

I'd have responded sooner, but missed the post until now - Gmail
filtering is too hard for me ;-)

The negative press issue just shot back up my own list after hearing
the Adam Bosworth MySQL presentation [1] (essentially "RSS is the
future data model for the Web"). He dismisses SW ideas, despite his
own suggestions being pretty close to a watered-down (full of holes)
version of the same thing. The annoyance being his dismissal is based
pretty much entirely on misconceptions (e.g. one big ontology). Very
frustrating.

Anyhow I agree 100% with your points, some random comments:

'why-rdf' - yep, that's probably the best angle for tutorial-like
material. I remember a while back a thread on xml-dev ending with a
line like "ok, I totally understand RDF technology. I just don't see
why I should use it in preference to...", which leads to -

'why not xml?' - I'm not sure how often this can be tackled head-on,
but is probably always a good starting point for RDF-exposure bearing
in mind that the SW stack includes XML and generally syntax is
secondary to good data. And XSLT.

cartoons - yes please!  I reckon anything visually appealing works
wonders. The speech bubble conversation thing someone did ages ago was
pretty good (can't find link, sorry) . Also may take a bit of hunting
down but the Semaview one-page RDF intros (PDFs) were pretty nice.
Then of course the little FOAFsters are a masterpiece.
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Julian Bond | 8 Aug 22:01 2005

Re: Wanted: Sample code for vcard to FOAF conversion

Dan Brickley <danbri@...> Mon, 8 Aug 2005 10:02:23
>Julian Bond wrote:

>> I'm hearing of more and more people who are using Skype and have 
>>dropped their other IM programs. Is it time for a foaf:skypeChatID ??
>
>I'd support that. Anything with that scale of usage is worth the price 
>of a new property,
>I think. There's the question of whether they've a (proper) URI scheme, 
>or plain string
>property is best. I lean towards using just the string...

At the moment they use callto:julian.bond or callto://julian.bond There 
are rumours afoot that they will be adding other potential URLs eg
skype:+18005550000
skype:+18005550000/call
skype:echo123/call
skype:echo123/chat
skype:echo123
skype:echo123/voicemail
skype:user1;user2/chat (creates multichat)
skype:user1;user2/call (create conference call)
skype:echo123/add (add to contactlist; show authorization)
skype:echo123/sendfile (open sendfile dialog to skypename)

http://www.skypejournal.com/blog/archives/2005/08/skype_links_com.php

So yes, a simple string is probably best in the RDF and the UI can 
convert that into whatever's needed.

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Neil Phillips | 10 Aug 10:51 2005

rdf and publishing job vacancies


Hi,

Apologies for the vague nature of my question, but it seems to be a specific
example of the more general question (rss/rdf/xml) that's been floating
around recently on this list.

A large not for profit organisation I've helped out in the past is looking
to re-design their jobs vacancy board to have better searching facilities,
and it makes sense that they should try and provide the data in more than
just html (their database has got the job vacancy detail broken down field
by field).

So.. it would be easy for them to publish their jobs as an RSS feed, I was
just wondering what the current thinking is in publishing in a more
semanticially useful way.

I'd done some work on this in the past (hence their question to me) at
http://www.jobble.org/examples.asp, but I'm still unclear whether it makes
more sense to add stuff like location to an RSS feed (it seems that some
search engines are moving in the direction of using geolocation in RSS feeds
for blogs and this would be a good fit), or whether if jobs were published
more formally there would be services in the near future which would consume
such a feed.

I'd be really grateful for any thoughts as to the best formats to publish
jobs in now, and in the near future (it'll be difficult to persuade them to
publish extra stuff for which there are no largish data consumers).

Cheers,
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John Breslin | 25 Aug 15:55 2005

Opinion on "Next Set of Entries"

Hi all -

A short question for you -

CaptSolo and I are writing SIOC [1] exporters for some discussion 
systems like WordPress, Drupal [2], etc.

Basically, if a Forum block shows a list of the posts it contains, and a 
Post shows a list of its replies, I've just limited this to 15 items at 
the moment.  Then a seeAlso could be used to link to the next set of 
posts/replies.

Avoiding any RSS comparisons (!), can you tell me what you think would 
be the best way to reference those next 15 items?

Some options are: to just select the next 15 posts; to start from the 
1st (earliest) post and start numbering from there; or to do some kind 
of date-range-select thing.  At the moment, I just use the first option, 
but obviously if pages are cached and new posts are added then something 
gets displaced...

e.g. (the first number is the forum ID, the second is the starting point 
for the next set of items)

<rdfs:seeAlso rdfs:label="Posts 15 to 30" 
rdf:resource="http://localhost/drupal/sioc/forum/1/15"/>

Hope it's clear what I'm looking for - thanks in advance for your ideas,

John.
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Danny Ayers | 27 Aug 10:42 2005
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BPEL4People

May be of interest:

[[
An informal specification describing a proposed extension to the Web
Services Business Process Execution Language (WS-BPEL) has been
released by IBM and SAP AG in the form of a white paper WS-BPEL
Extension for People — BPEL4People. The paper describes business
scenarios where users are involved in business processes and defines
appropriate extensions to WS-BPEL to address these.
]]
http://xml.coverpages.org/ni2005-08-26-a.html

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