Prabath Siriwardena | 2 Jan 2008 20:52
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[OpenID] OpenId4Java maven repo

Hi;

The latest release 0.9.3 available in a maven repo does not have
Infocard support.

Is there a SNAPSHOT version available in a maven repo with the Infocard support?

Thanks & regards.

- Prabath
Sutra Zhou | 2 Jan 2008 21:16
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Re: [OpenID] OpenId4Java maven repo

http://alchim.sourceforge.net/download/snapshots/org/openid4java/

2008/1/3, Prabath Siriwardena < siriwardena.prabath <at> gmail.com>:
Hi;

The latest release 0.9.3 available in a maven repo does not have
Infocard support.

Is there a SNAPSHOT version available in a maven repo with the Infocard support?

Thanks & regards.

- Prabath
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Hans Granqvist | 3 Jan 2008 15:44
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[OpenID] Continuous OpenID

One of my itches with web authentication is the need to
enter identity info, be it user/pass or an OpenID URL,
everywhere I want to be identified. So tedious! I should
only have to enter it once and be done.

There have been a few attempts at solving this by having
the browser auto-fill fields for you, but that normally only
works so-so (and you still have to enter the identity info
once).

I've tooled around on a version of authentication that:

* Uses OpenID protocol messages. Existing libraries should work.
* Lets you enter your OpenID URL once and be done.
* Removes all redirects from the browser.
* Continuously logs you in to every site (should you so desire).

It's worth noting that the protocol could be simplified on the RP
side to not use OpenID at the RP at all, which might be good or
bad for general OpenID adoption.

Have a look at
http://commented.org/blog/2008/1/3/continuous-openid.html
for the full protocol. I'm sure the thoughts are not entirely new and
that the protocol can be improved.

Thanks,
Hans
Peter Williams | 3 Jan 2008 16:40
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Re: [OpenID] Continuous OpenID

yup - from the blog, you essentially re-invented the artifact mode of reliance. Once invoked, RP goes pick
up the assertion token from the OP, as deposited there earlier .

 
I believe the artifact mode is much under-rated - even in the practicising SAML community. While the
artifact flow itself has pros and cons, the dynamics of the underlying token management are what are
interesting. Reusing tokens, getting yetersdays tokens, getting shared tokens, etc etc. are where the
opportunities lie. Its a little less compelling in openid, where tokens are signed using the association
channels' HMAC keying (which limits token resolution possisbilities, somewhat!), rather than
asymmetric keys and dig sigs.

 
________________________________

From: general-bounces <at> openid.net on behalf of Hans Granqvist
Sent: Thu 1/3/2008 6:44 AM
To: openid-general General
Subject: [OpenID] Continuous OpenID

One of my itches with web authentication is the need to
enter identity info, be it user/pass or an OpenID URL,
everywhere I want to be identified. So tedious! I should
only have to enter it once and be done.

There have been a few attempts at solving this by having
the browser auto-fill fields for you, but that normally only
works so-so (and you still have to enter the identity info
once).

I've tooled around on a version of authentication that:

* Uses OpenID protocol messages. Existing libraries should work.
* Lets you enter your OpenID URL once and be done.
* Removes all redirects from the browser.
* Continuously logs you in to every site (should you so desire).

It's worth noting that the protocol could be simplified on the RP
side to not use OpenID at the RP at all, which might be good or
bad for general OpenID adoption.

Have a look at
http://commented.org/blog/2008/1/3/continuous-openid.html
for the full protocol. I'm sure the thoughts are not entirely new and
that the protocol can be improved.

Thanks,
Hans
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John Kemp | 3 Jan 2008 16:49

Re: [OpenID] Continuous OpenID

Peter Williams wrote:
> yup - from the blog, you essentially re-invented the artifact mode of
> reliance. Once invoked, RP goes pick up the assertion token from the
> OP, as deposited there earlier .

There's a little more than that though. I also saw an OpenID-like
authentication protocol between the UA and the IdP - something like the
Liberty ID-WSF Authentication and SSO Service
(http://www.projectliberty.org/liberty/content/download/3439/22943/file/liberty-idwsf-authn-svc-2.0-errata-v1.0.pdf)
which is based on SASL (and thus allows several different authentication
methods).

Cheers,

- John

> 
> 
> I believe the artifact mode is much under-rated - even in the
> practicising SAML community. While the artifact flow itself has pros
> and cons, the dynamics of the underlying token management are what
> are interesting. Reusing tokens, getting yetersdays tokens, getting
> shared tokens, etc etc. are where the opportunities lie. Its a little
> less compelling in openid, where tokens are signed using the
> association channels' HMAC keying (which limits token resolution
> possisbilities, somewhat!), rather than asymmetric keys and dig sigs.
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: general-bounces <at> openid.net on behalf of Hans Granqvist Sent:
> Thu 1/3/2008 6:44 AM To: openid-general General Subject: [OpenID]
> Continuous OpenID
> 
> 
> 
> One of my itches with web authentication is the need to enter
> identity info, be it user/pass or an OpenID URL, everywhere I want to
> be identified. So tedious! I should only have to enter it once and be
> done.
> 
> There have been a few attempts at solving this by having the browser
> auto-fill fields for you, but that normally only works so-so (and you
> still have to enter the identity info once).
> 
> I've tooled around on a version of authentication that:
> 
> * Uses OpenID protocol messages. Existing libraries should work. *
> Lets you enter your OpenID URL once and be done. * Removes all
> redirects from the browser. * Continuously logs you in to every site
> (should you so desire).
> 
> It's worth noting that the protocol could be simplified on the RP 
> side to not use OpenID at the RP at all, which might be good or bad
> for general OpenID adoption.
> 
> Have a look at 
> http://commented.org/blog/2008/1/3/continuous-openid.html for the
> full protocol. I'm sure the thoughts are not entirely new and that
> the protocol can be improved.
> 
> Thanks, Hans _______________________________________________ general
> mailing list general <at> openid.net 
> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/general
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Peter Williams | 3 Jan 2008 20:23
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Re: [OpenID] Continuous OpenID

I read the Liberty document quickly. I think it said:

Be a web service client and engage in a SASL dialogue with a token mint to negotiate the type and value of
tokens required...for subsequent presentation to a web service provider using SOAP extension headers.

1. when the SASL provider (aka token mint) is a "discovery" service, the concept of operations is
openid-like - controlling via a discovery protocol the issuance of authorization to release and use
tokens (including crypto session tokens, presumably).  In openid...one says something similar:
without completing XRD-based name discovery before openid auth (or after in the cardspace auth case),
the RP is not authorized under the policy (controlling this NTCB) to process the token.

2. when the SASL provider is an SSO (rather than the discovery) service, the service does not seem
particularly openid-like.

 
________________________________

From: John Kemp [mailto:john <at> jkemp.net]
Sent: Thu 1/3/2008 7:49 AM
To: Peter Williams
Cc: Hans Granqvist; openid-general General
Subject: Re: [OpenID] Continuous OpenID

Peter Williams wrote:
> yup - from the blog, you essentially re-invented the artifact mode of
> reliance. Once invoked, RP goes pick up the assertion token from the
> OP, as deposited there earlier .

There's a little more than that though. I also saw an OpenID-like
authentication protocol between the UA and the IdP - something like the
Liberty ID-WSF Authentication and SSO Service
(http://www.projectliberty.org/liberty/content/download/3439/22943/file/liberty-idwsf-authn-svc-2.0-errata-v1.0.pdf)
which is based on SASL (and thus allows several different authentication
methods).

Cheers,

- John

>
>
> I believe the artifact mode is much under-rated - even in the
> practicising SAML community. While the artifact flow itself has pros
> and cons, the dynamics of the underlying token management are what
> are interesting. Reusing tokens, getting yetersdays tokens, getting
> shared tokens, etc etc. are where the opportunities lie. Its a little
> less compelling in openid, where tokens are signed using the
> association channels' HMAC keying (which limits token resolution
> possisbilities, somewhat!), rather than asymmetric keys and dig sigs.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: general-bounces <at> openid.net on behalf of Hans Granqvist Sent:
> Thu 1/3/2008 6:44 AM To: openid-general General Subject: [OpenID]
> Continuous OpenID
>
>
>
> One of my itches with web authentication is the need to enter
> identity info, be it user/pass or an OpenID URL, everywhere I want to
> be identified. So tedious! I should only have to enter it once and be
> done.
>
> There have been a few attempts at solving this by having the browser
> auto-fill fields for you, but that normally only works so-so (and you
> still have to enter the identity info once).
>
> I've tooled around on a version of authentication that:
>
> * Uses OpenID protocol messages. Existing libraries should work. *
> Lets you enter your OpenID URL once and be done. * Removes all
> redirects from the browser. * Continuously logs you in to every site
> (should you so desire).
>
> It's worth noting that the protocol could be simplified on the RP
> side to not use OpenID at the RP at all, which might be good or bad
> for general OpenID adoption.
>
> Have a look at
> http://commented.org/blog/2008/1/3/continuous-openid.html for the
> full protocol. I'm sure the thoughts are not entirely new and that
> the protocol can be improved.
>
> Thanks, Hans _______________________________________________ general
> mailing list general <at> openid.net
> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/general
>
>
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Thomas Huhn | 3 Jan 2008 23:33
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[OpenID] SpreadOpenID.org launched

Hi everyone!

Carsten Poetter and me are trying to give OpenID a kick start into 2008 and we hope to have your full support:

We have launched http://spreadopenid.org today, a site that is dedicated to supporting users in finding 'their' provider and understanding what are the important facts in this decision process.

The goal of Spread OpenID is to complement the official OpenID.net site with content that cannot be found there (at least not presented in the same way). The intended audience is the average internet user.

At this time the key feature of the site is an OpenID provider comparison that is built on a survey we did among a number of well known providers.

Some of the providers we had sent the survey to didn't reply, some did not want to participate. Nevertheless we hope to add more providers to the list in an ongoing process.

As there has been some delay between the survey and the launch of Spread OpenID, there might have been changes in the meantime. So please send an email if you think something should be corrected.

If you're missing a provider on our list, just propose it to us and we'll see if this one is interested to join our survey.

We're thankful for every link love we can get, esp. from sites accepting OpenID logins and looking for a way to provide their users with an easy way to find 'their' OpenID provider.

If there's somebody out there with some graphic skills, we would also appreciate your ideas and your help in creating some badges that people can put on their blog to show their support for Spread OpenID.

We're looking forward to hear your feedback. Please use admin [at] spreadopenid [.] org to get in touch.

Happy new year!

Thomas & Carsten

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Pierre LEVY | 4 Jan 2008 01:43
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[OpenID] Lutece Java Portal provides OpenID authentication module

Hi,

I'm happy to let you know that our Java open source portal, named 
Lutece, now supports OpenID using the latest version of OpenID4Java 
library.

I'm quite sure very few people has heard about this tool, so let me 
introduce it to you in few words.
- Lutece is made by the city of Paris, and runs more than 40 sites 
(Internet/Intranet/Extranet) of the city
- Over 100 French cities or companies are using Lutece
- We hope to be a reference plate-form in France for local government 
entities
- The new release 2 is available in English . We hope to have soon 
overseas users (we have already some Canadians users but French spoken ;-))

A good entry point to discover roughly Lutece is to see metrics on Ohloh 
and follow some links provided on this site.
http://www.ohloh.net/projects/7203?p=lutece

Here is the link of the OpenID authentication module project (providing 
JIRA, SVN, Continuum tools)
http://dev.lutece.paris.fr/plugins/module-mylutece-openid/

The Lutece team and I wish you all a very Happy New Year.and a  lot  of 
success with OpenID

Thanks for your great work.

Very Sincerely

Pierre LEVY
City of Paris
Senior software engineer
Lutece Project Lead
Snorri | 4 Jan 2008 01:51
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Re: [OpenID] Lutece Java Portal provides OpenID authentication module

I thank Pierre for her valuable work!

Take this opportunity to discover Lutece :)

Cheers

-Snorri

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Hi,

I'm happy to let you know that our Java open source portal, named 
Lutece, now supports OpenID using the latest version of OpenID4Java 
library.

I'm quite sure very few people has heard about this tool, so let me 
introduce it to you in few words.
- Lutece is made by the city of Paris, and runs more than 40 sites 
(Internet/Intranet/Extranet) of the city
- Over 100 French cities or companies are using Lutece
- We hope to be a reference plate-form in France for local government 
entities
- The new release 2 is available in English . We hope to have soon 
overseas users (we have already some Canadians users but French spoken ;-))

A good entry point to discover roughly Lutece is to see metrics on Ohloh 
and follow some links provided on this site.
http://www.ohloh.net/projects/7203?p=lutece

Here is the link of the OpenID authentication module project (providing 
JIRA, SVN, Continuum tools)
http://dev.lutece.paris.fr/plugins/module-mylutece-openid/

The Lutece team and I wish you all a very Happy New Year.and a  lot  of 
success with OpenID

Thanks for your great work.

Very Sincerely

Pierre LEVY
City of Paris
Senior software engineer
Lutece Project Lead
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tom | 4 Jan 2008 11:10
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[OpenID] Clarifiction Spec 1.1 v 2.0

Hi All,

Spec 1.1: 4.4.2 - check_authentication, response parameters include 
openid.mode / Value = id_res
Spec 2.0: 11.4.2.2 - check_authentication, response parameters DO NOT 
include openid.mode

We think Spec 2.0: 11.4.2.2 should include openid.mode

Can someone clarify if the spec is wrong or whether it is left out on 
purpose?

Thanks

Tom

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