Re: How to auto-launch XMeeting upon login

>> I tried to add it to the list of programs launched at startup, but
>> then it opens up its window, which I find inconvenient, so I checked
>> the "start hidden" flag (still in the system preferences, in the user
>> management part, in the startup application for the user) but it made
>> no difference.
>> 
>> So, how am I supposed to let XMeeting start whenever I login, yet
>> without opening a window (or at least starting iconified)?

> Have you tried login script to:
> 	open -g /Applications/XMeeting/XMeeting.app

No.  Where would I put that?  I don't know of any "login script"
under macosx.
Is there something equivalent to .Xclients or .xsession under macosx?

> ...not sure if you can AppleScript launching the app then closing
> windows and sending to the back?

Shouldn't it be part of the normal features of XMeeting to obey the
"start hidden" flag (if possible)?  It seems like the most obvious way
to use XMeeting (unless you only ever use it to call normal phones: how
else do your correspondants manage to reach you if you don't always
start XMeeting at login)?

        Stefan

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Re: How to auto-launch XMeeting upon login

Stefan Monnier <monnier@...> wrote:
>

>> Have you tried login script to:
>> 	open -g /Applications/XMeeting/XMeeting.app
>
> No.  Where would I put that?  I don't know of any "login script"
> under macosx.
> Is there something equivalent to .Xclients or .xsession under
macosx?

<http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/BPSystemStartup/Articles/CustomLogin.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/20002134-111735 
 >

>> ...not sure if you can AppleScript launching the app then closing
>> windows and sending to the back?
>
> Shouldn't it be part of the normal features of XMeeting to obey the
> "start hidden" flag (if possible)?  It seems like the most obvious way
> to use XMeeting (unless you only ever use it to call normal phones:  
> how
> else do your correspondants manage to reach you if you don't always
> start XMeeting at login)?
>
>
>        Stefan

Not sure...I'm not very good with Applescript. :)

Don

Re: How to auto-launch XMeeting upon login

Until then, you can create a quick 'automator application' that launches
xMeeting and minimizes it... should take no more than 5 minutes to
create and tweak. 

Edson

> > Shouldn't it be part of the normal features of XMeeting to obey the
> > "start hidden" flag (if possible)?  It seems like the most 
> obvious way
> > to use XMeeting (unless you only ever use it to call normal 

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Re: How to auto-launch XMeeting upon login

>>> Have you tried login script to:
>>> open -g /Applications/XMeeting/XMeeting.app
>> 
>> No.  Where would I put that?  I don't know of any "login script"
>> under macosx.
>> Is there something equivalent to .Xclients or .xsession under macosx?

>
<http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/BPSystemStartup/Articles/CustomLogin.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/20002134-111735 

Don't see anything equivalent: all the scripts are run as root, so
clearly not applicable here.

>>> ...not sure if you can AppleScript launching the app then closing
>>> windows and sending to the back?
>> 
>> Shouldn't it be part of the normal features of XMeeting to obey the
>> "start hidden" flag (if possible)?  It seems like the most obvious way
>> to use XMeeting (unless you only ever use it to call normal phones:  
>> how
>> else do your correspondants manage to reach you if you don't always
>> start XMeeting at login)?

> Not sure...I'm not very good with Applescript. :)

I wasn't talking about Applescript.  I was talking about what the
out-of-the-box behavior of XMeeting should be.

        Stefan

Re: How to auto-launch XMeeting upon login

> Until then, you can create a quick 'automator application' that launches
> xMeeting and minimizes it... should take no more than 5 minutes to
> create and tweak. 

Except it'll take a lot more than 5 minutes for me to explain to my
parents how to do it (I'm using ekiga myself, the xmeeting users are an
ocean away).

        Stefan

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Re: Problems on Mac OS X 10.5

Hello,

On 26.12.2007, at 20:11, Friedhelm Wolf wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I just started using XMeeting on Mac OS X Leopard.
> I'm using a German sip proxy from a voip service provider, called  
> Arcor.
>
> I have two questions:
> 1. It's possible for people to call me on this account (registering
> works). However, every 2 Minutes, the call is interrupted. Any
> experiences with that?

No, no specific experiences with that. Except the knowledge that the  
SIP stack used for 0.3.4 is still quite buggy. Things should improve  
when the next release (finally) comes out.
It would be helpful if you can provide me a debug log.
>
> 2. It is not possible for me to call other people.
> When I dial the number, it just does not make any progress.
> (see log file : http://www.dre.vanderbilt.edu/~fwolf/xmeeting.log).

You only get the first response from the server. It might be a  
Firewall problem or something else.

I rather put my (spare) time into making a new release available,  
using a more modern, less buggy SIP stack. If the problems still  
persist then, we'll have to see.

Re: How to auto-launch XMeeting upon login

Hello,

On 31.12.2007, at 00:26, Stefan Monnier wrote:

>
> I tried to add it to the list of programs launched at startup, but  
> then
> it opens up its window, which I find inconvenient, so I checked the
> "start hidden" flag (still in the system preferences, in the user
> management part, in the startup application for the user) but it made
> no difference.
>
> So, how am I supposed to let XMeeting start whenever I login, yet
> without opening a window (or at least starting iconified)?

This is a software limitation of XMeeting: The application is  
currently designed to be always visible. That's why even the "start  
hidden" flag doesn't work. This will need to be altered, but lack of  
time is the current obstacle...

Hannes

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Re: How to auto-launch XMeeting upon login

>> I tried to add it to the list of programs launched at startup, but then
>> it opens up its window, which I find inconvenient, so I checked the
>> "start hidden" flag (still in the system preferences, in the user
>> management part, in the startup application for the user) but it made
>> no difference.
>> 
>> So, how am I supposed to let XMeeting start whenever I login, yet
>> without opening a window (or at least starting iconified)?

> This is a software limitation of XMeeting: The application is currently
> designed to be always visible.

Hmm... that's not quite accurate: I can iconify it just fine in which
case it's not really visible.  So if the "start hidden" was interpreted
as "start iconified" I'd be satisfied.

> That's why even the "start hidden" flag doesn't work.  This will need
> to be altered, but lack of time is the current obstacle...

Fair enough.  Thanks for the answer,

        Stefan

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