Ville Saari | 1 Feb 04:16 2005
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Re: Re: anime encoding (VHS tape)

On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 11:51:16AM -0500, D Richard Felker III wrote:

> this is not "normal interlaced"... if it's pal and you see combing, it
> means it was framerate-converted from telecined ntsc, and the result
> will be absolutely horrible.

Not necessarily. It might just be that it was telecined top-field-first
and the capture card combined fields into frames bottom-field-first or
vice versa. If this is the case, then -vf phase helps.

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 Ville
D Richard Felker III | 1 Feb 06:20 2005

Re: Re: [-] Re: [-] XV display too wide

On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 05:04:57PM -0300, Julián Nuñez wrote:
> Matthias Wieser wrote:
> 
> >>>>Why xawtv works is also clear: it always assumes square pixels.
> >>>>       
> >>>>
> >>>...which is probabyl right for >95% of mplayer users.
> >>>     
> >>>
> >>which assuming 4:3 monitor aspect probably is, too.
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >No. Probably 50% of all displays bought in the last year do not have an 
> >aspect ratio of 4:3. More and more notebooks tend to have 15:9 displays 
> >and all 17" and 19" TFT displays do have a 4:5 aspect ratio.
> > 
> >
> Uh, I may be living in another world, but here in Argentina we barely
> know what TFT displays are. 99.9% of users use 4:3 displays.

i agree totally, and i'm living in the usa. why the hell would i have
bought a monitor in the past year, or even the past 10 years? there's
no point in ever replacing one unless it dies. and 4:5 aspect, what
the fuck?! that's nonsense. i assume you mean 5:4, but even that's bad
because it's horrible for playing movies. 16:9 might be nice, but...

rich
D Richard Felker III | 1 Feb 06:22 2005

Re: Re: anime encoding (VHS tape)

On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 05:16:17AM +0200, Ville Saari wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 11:51:16AM -0500, D Richard Felker III wrote:
> 
> > this is not "normal interlaced"... if it's pal and you see combing, it
> > means it was framerate-converted from telecined ntsc, and the result
> > will be absolutely horrible.
> 
> Not necessarily. It might just be that it was telecined top-field-first
> and the capture card combined fields into frames bottom-field-first or
> vice versa. If this is the case, then -vf phase helps.

good point. actually i sort of consider this a type of "pulldown"...
any conversion of progressive content to a format for display on an
interlaced device is pulldown from my standpoint. and vf_pullup should
be able to reverse it, although i expect vf_phase is better for this
specific case.

anyway thanks for jumping in.

rich
faxmodem | 1 Feb 09:24 2005
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input_pnm: read error

Hi,

Trying to read some SGI vid, I get this streaming/flooding error message:

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input_pnm: got message from server while reading stream:
You need to obtain a new player to play this clip. Please point your web
browser to http://www.real.com and download the latest RealOne Player from
RealNetworks.
 Once you have installed it you should try this clip again.
--

Here's the source of the vid:

http://mfile.akamai.com/7772/rm/sgi.download.akamai.com/7772//Products/Altix3000/Altix-P_300.rpm
pnm://a1627.v77721.c7772.g.vr.akamaistream.net/ondemand/7/1627/7772/v0001/sgi.download.akamai.com/7772/Products/Altix3000/Altix-P_300.rm

I guess it's my win32 codecs which are too old?
jarek darnowski | 1 Feb 10:42 2005
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Re: is fbdev broken ?


> yes, someone committed lots of idiotic nonsense to the fbdev vo
> modules to display 'subtitles below the movie' or something
dumb like
> that. if someone can identify the specific cvs commits that did
this
> i'll look them up and reverse them sometime.
> 
> rich

last 100% working fbdev (in my oppinion) was in mplayer 0.92.
starting from the initial version of 1.0, when fbdev2 was
introduced, -vo fbdev was broken :( can anyone fix this ?

of course i can still use 0.92 but it lacks lots of features and
is incopatible with most modern containers and codecs.

broken -vo fbdev in *all* 1.0 versions makes no sense for me to
use it, because i'm mainly using framebuffer console.

also tdfxfb doesn't work for me. is anyone engaged in development
of this video module nowdays or the project is dead ? 

Jarek
Matthias Wieser | 1 Feb 13:47 2005
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Re: [-] XV display too wide

Hi,
Am Dienstag, 1. Februar 2005 06:20 schrieb D Richard Felker III:
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 05:04:57PM -0300, Julián Nuñez wrote:
> > Matthias Wieser wrote:
> > >No. Probably 50% of all displays bought in the last year do not have
> > > an aspect ratio of 4:3. More and more notebooks tend to have 15:9
> > > displays and all 17" and 19" TFT displays do have a 4:5 aspect
> > > ratio.
> >
> > Uh, I may be living in another world, but here in Argentina we barely
> > know what TFT displays are. 99.9% of users use 4:3 displays.
>
> i agree totally, and i'm living in the usa. why the hell would i have
> bought a monitor in the past year, or even the past 10 years?

Because an old 14" CRT is dying? 

Btw.: Apple has updated it's line of powerbooks. 4 out of 5 models do not 
have a display aspect ratio of 4:3. ( http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ )

There are at least three options for a media player:
1. Assume 4:3 monitor
2. Assume square pixels
3. Ask X11 about resolution and size of the monitor

The first one only works with certain monitors. The second one works on 
all monitors when the user has selected a sane resolution. The third one 
always works unless the user writes crap into his XF86Config. All 
applications I know of use either option 2 or option 3.

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Mark Lanett | 1 Feb 18:26 2005

Re: power down after playback/encoding finished

mencoder ... && [sudo] [/sbin/]shutdown -h now
D Richard Felker III | 1 Feb 21:04 2005

Re: Re: is fbdev broken ?

On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 10:42:46AM +0100, jarek darnowski wrote:
> 
> > yes, someone committed lots of idiotic nonsense to the fbdev vo
> > modules to display 'subtitles below the movie' or something
> dumb like
> > that. if someone can identify the specific cvs commits that did
> this
> > i'll look them up and reverse them sometime.
> > 
> > rich
> 
> last 100% working fbdev (in my oppinion) was in mplayer 0.92.
> starting from the initial version of 1.0, when fbdev2 was
> introduced, -vo fbdev was broken :( can anyone fix this ?
> 
> of course i can still use 0.92 but it lacks lots of features and
> is incopatible with most modern containers and codecs.
> 
> broken -vo fbdev in *all* 1.0 versions makes no sense for me to
> use it, because i'm mainly using framebuffer console.

you should never use fbdev anyway. it tears, and there's no way to fix
it. use vidix or another overlay-based driver; anything else is
useless.

> also tdfxfb doesn't work for me. is anyone engaged in development
> of this video module nowdays or the project is dead ? 

it's supposed to work. what problem do you have with it?

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D Richard Felker III | 1 Feb 21:08 2005

Re: Re: [-] XV display too wide

On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 01:47:49PM +0100, Matthias Wieser wrote:
> Hi,
> Am Dienstag, 1. Februar 2005 06:20 schrieb D Richard Felker III:
> > On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 05:04:57PM -0300, Julián Nuñez wrote:
> > > Matthias Wieser wrote:
> > > >No. Probably 50% of all displays bought in the last year do not have
> > > > an aspect ratio of 4:3. More and more notebooks tend to have 15:9
> > > > displays and all 17" and 19" TFT displays do have a 4:5 aspect
> > > > ratio.
> > >
> > > Uh, I may be living in another world, but here in Argentina we barely
> > > know what TFT displays are. 99.9% of users use 4:3 displays.
> >
> > i agree totally, and i'm living in the usa. why the hell would i have
> > bought a monitor in the past year, or even the past 10 years?
> 
> Because an old 14" CRT is dying? 

then get a used 17" crt that works for $5 or so at a surplus auction.
continually consuming more and more resources for the sake of having
the latest and greatest (actually the most hideously broken, in the
case of computer gear) stuff is plain stupid.

> Btw.: Apple has updated it's line of powerbooks. 4 out of 5 models do not 
> have a display aspect ratio of 4:3. ( http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ )

figures it would be an apple user saying these things......

> There are at least three options for a media player:
> 1. Assume 4:3 monitor
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Alex Rada | 1 Feb 21:09 2005
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Re: User has no permission...


>this is NOT THE ENTIRE MESSAGE.
>without any useful info from you, i have no idea what the problem is.
>the terminal type thing is definitely irrelevant though.
>
>rich
>  
>
Hi all,
This is the entire message I get when I launch mplayer as user:
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MPlayer 1.0pre6-3.3.4 (C) 2000-2004 MPlayer Team
CPU: Intel Pentium M Banias (Family: 6, Stepping: 5)
Detected cache-line size is 64 bytes
CPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1
Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX MMX2 SSE SSE2

Linux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied
Try adding "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to your system 
startup scripts.
Terminal type `rxvt' is not defined.
Playing ecce_bombo_divx.avi.
AVI file format detected.
VIDEO:  [DIVX]  720x576  24bpp  25.000 fps  800.1 kbps (97.7 kbyte/s)
Clip info:
 Software: MEncoder 1.0pre5-3.3.4
==========================================================================
Cannot find codec for audio format 0x55.
Read DOCS/HTML/en/codecs.html!
==========================================================================
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