Ichthyostega | 1 Feb 03:50
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Re: Forthcomming advertisement in the next issue of the Libre Graphics

Am 31.01.2012 22:18, schrieb Benny Lyons:
> Below is my proposal for the text (I haven't bothered counting the words,
> it's just a first draft.)
...

Hi Benny,

to me it your text seems to be just fine; right now I can't find anything
missing or lacking. All important points are there, and it's quite concise
and to the point.

	-- Hermann

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Hendrik Boom | 1 Feb 04:18

Re: Forthcomming advertisement in the next issue of the Libre Graphics

On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 03:50:43AM +0100, Ichthyostega wrote:
> Am 31.01.2012 22:18, schrieb Benny Lyons:
> > Below is my proposal for the text (I haven't bothered counting the words,
> > it's just a first draft.)
> ...
> 
> Hi Benny,
> 
> to me it your text seems to be just fine; right now I can't find anything
> missing or lacking. All important points are there, and it's quite concise
> and to the point.
> 
> 	-- Hermann

Maybe contact information?

-- hendrik
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Ichthyostega | 1 Feb 05:38
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Re: Forthcomming advertisement in the next issue of the Libre Graphics

Am 01.02.2012 04:18, schrieb Hendrik Boom:
> Maybe contact information?

"visit Lumiera.org  -- join our Mailing List"

http://lumiera.org/project/contact.html

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Benny Lyons | 1 Feb 10:16
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Re: Forthcomming advertisement in the next issue of the Libre Graphics

Hi Hendrik, 

> Maybe contact information?
This is just the text proposal.  We'll be sending some graphics to accompany the advertisement.  Contact
infos will come either from the graphics, depending on which graphics, or we'll just add the lumiera.org
to the end of the add.

Cheers
Benny

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:18:14 -0500
> Von: Hendrik Boom <hendrik@...>
> An: lumiera@...
> Betreff: Re: [Lumiera] Forthcomming advertisement in the next issue of the Libre	Graphics

> On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 03:50:43AM +0100, Ichthyostega wrote:
> > Am 31.01.2012 22:18, schrieb Benny Lyons:
> > > Below is my proposal for the text (I haven't bothered counting the
> words,
> > > it's just a first draft.)
> > ...
> > 
> > Hi Benny,
> > 
> > to me it your text seems to be just fine; right now I can't find
> anything
> > missing or lacking. All important points are there, and it's quite
> concise
> > and to the point.
(Continue reading)

Ichthyostega | 6 Feb 01:36
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ANNOUNCE: Lumiera Developer Meeting, February 2012


Hi Lumiera hackers,

According to our usual habits, the next regular monthly
Lumiera developer meeting would be scheduled for

Wednesday, February 8, 2012 -- starting 20:00 UTC

The meeting will be on IRC/Freenode.net in #lumiera
Everyone is welcome. Please speak up if this schedule doesn't work for you.

	Hermann Voßeler
	(aka "Ichthyo")

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farid abdelnour | 6 Feb 09:27
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Re: ANNOUNCE: Lumiera Developer Meeting, February 2012

hi,

would you consider discussing lumiera's participation in this years gsoc?

might be nice to also try to write a roadmap or some objectives for this year.

cheers :)

2012/2/5 Ichthyostega <prg-vhE0xzMaJLylxi2N03spHA@public.gmane.org>

Hi Lumiera hackers,

According to our usual habits, the next regular monthly
Lumiera developer meeting would be scheduled for

Wednesday, February 8, 2012 -- starting 20:00 UTC

The meeting will be on IRC/Freenode.net in #lumiera
Everyone is welcome. Please speak up if this schedule doesn't work for you.

       Hermann Voßeler
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Benny Lyons | 6 Feb 16:25
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Re: ANNOUNCE: Lumiera Developer Meeting, February 2012

Hi, 
Thanks  Hermann for the reminder.

I've got two short topics:
  ---Proposal from farid abdelnour for Google Summer of Code
  ---Update on the forthcomming Libre Graphics plug for developers
Benny

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> Datum: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 01:36:17 +0100
> Von: Ichthyostega <prg <at> ichthyostega.de>
> An: LumiList <lumiera <at> lists.lumiera.org>
> Betreff: [Lumiera]   ANNOUNCE: Lumiera Developer Meeting, February 2012

> 
> Hi Lumiera hackers,
> 
> According to our usual habits, the next regular monthly
> Lumiera developer meeting would be scheduled for
> 
> Wednesday, February 8, 2012 -- starting 20:00 UTC
> 
> The meeting will be on IRC/Freenode.net in #lumiera
> Everyone is welcome. Please speak up if this schedule doesn't work for
> you.
> 
> 	Hermann Voßeler
> 	(aka "Ichthyo")
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Ichthyostega | 7 Feb 03:25
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Re: ANNOUNCE: Lumiera Developer Meeting, February 2012

Am 06.02.2012 16:25, schrieb Benny Lyons:
> I've got two short topics:
> -- Proposal from farid abdelnour for Google Summer of Code
> -- Update on the forthcomming Libre Graphics plug for developers

... while we're talking about topics...
Quite some time ago I wrote a RfC, which I'd like to "close" in some
way; maybe we'll just retract it as RfC and add it otherwise, or re-discuss
it and accept it. What do you think?

http://lumiera.org/documentation/devel/rfc_parked/UseCases.html

That's certainly a "high level" topic, nothing technical.
At that time, there was a bit of discussion, which led to adding
the Scenario (7)

Basically the question is still: do you think this kind of approach
is valid? Does it describe / cover the intended usage properly. Of course
we can't cover any use scenario, and we do intend to build a flexible
application anyway. Yet still my thinking is, that describing such
"idealised" usage patterns helps us focussing on features helpful
for the prospective user ;-)

Cheers,
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Ichthyostega.. | 8 Feb 18:34
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An observation regarding Lumiera's parallelism


Hi Lumi hackers,

since we're discussing about advertisement, and also consider GSoC, there's
an
interesting observation I want to share.

Mostly, wer're discussing our thread handling in the render engine along
the lines of
"we have isolated jobs and a scheduler, and those jobs are made to avoid
blocking".

While this is certainly true, it not the full story. When considered at a
higher,
more abstract level, what we're actually doing in our engine is some kind
of
"modified fork-join". The similarities are striking -- the major difference
is, that fork-join is a generic handling pattern and typically implemented
through general purpose libraries, while we're creating something
specialised
and dedicated here. Yet still

- we have a "backbone level", which does "fork" new sub tasks: while
playback
  is running, we won't schedule all conceivable jobs at once; rather we're
  scheduling the first chunk plus a follow-up job to schedule the next
chunk.

- we *do* join the results together. We just do it in a clever way, so to
avoid
  blocking waits. Our "join operation" is actually implemented by
comparison with
  a time of delivery / deadline. When in time, results can be dropped in,
otherwise
  they are just discarded

Thus, the most relevant difference is, that the classical fork-join pattern
uses
a stack or deque for the forked worker tasks, while we're using a priority
queue
with intelligent time-of-delivery based ordering.

Cheers,
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Christian Thaeter | 25 Feb 08:57

Question about scons and backporting asciidoc

Hi Ichthyo,

I am working again on the new builddrone implementation and come along
scons now, with autotools I can build a project in very small steps and
produce reports about these (testing with nobug here, spare your rants
about autotools :P). That is, I can check for bootstrap, configure,
make (main program), make the tests, running the tests etc.

Mostly this works in scons too, but scons has no bootstrap and
configure stage (which is good, no doubt) but still it checks for
dependencies implicitly when building. Is there some way to factor
these dependency checks out (maybe by some empty build target)? There
is no much urge for this, builddrone could just generate prettier
reports when it can build the project in small steps.

Another question: how hard would it be to backport asciidoc and put a
debian package into our depot (note: this is just informal, I didn't
even tried if the wheezy package could be installed in squeeze
already). Simon helped with setting up a improved builddrone website
 http://builddrone.pipapo.org/
and we stomped on some nasty old asciidoc bugs, which we now worked
around but it would be somewhat nice to have a fixed version installed
on our server.

	Christian
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