Ichthyostega | 7 Nov 16:16
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[ANNOUNCE] (monthly) Lumiera Developers meeting


Hello all,

according to our usual habits, the next Lumiera developer meeting
would be scheduled for

Wednesday November 11, 2009  20:00 UTC

The meeting will be held on IRC: freenode.net in #lumiera

Please speak up, if this schedule doesn't work for you.

	Hermann Vosseler
	(aka "Ichthyo")

Ichthyostega | 9 Nov 07:59
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mailing list test


please ignore....
Christian Thaeter | 9 Nov 10:37

Re: mailing list test

Ichthyostega wrote:
> please ignore....
ignoring doesnt work :) (ml should work again now)

somehow mailman died, i install a cron scipt which restarts it when died

	Christian
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Ichthyostega | 11 Nov 23:50
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Website / Documentation structure


Hello all,

at our dev.meeting, we just had an discussion, with some interesting ideas
regarding how to organise all the content for the (future) website. We really
should try to get this discussion going. uWiki makes progress, but, anyway
we have lots of content lying somewhere in the jungle of websites, asciidoced
content, tiddlyWikis, GIT trees. But a clever structure is really something
we should discuss and settle down upon soon....

Cheers,
Hermann V.

+--------------------------------+
Shortened IRC transcript.....

<raffa> ichthyo: I don't think so. It was really about content structure.
<raffa> Made around the asciidoc day.
<raffa> By someone very active then.
...
<ichthyo> wasn't this outline written by you

<ichthyo> "possible workflow tasks?"
<ichthyo> http://lists.lumiera.org/pipermail/lumiera/2009-February/000733.html
....
<daylife> and the website needs to get some clean split between the public
front-end of the website and the documentation-tree where everything can be
found...because at the moment the thing's a mess. i can't really find anything...
....
<andrewjames> the t.o.c. is useful sometime to reinitate a conversation of the
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Andreas Braml | 12 Nov 14:32
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Re: Website / Documentation structure

Hi!

Am Mittwoch 11 November 2009 23:50:20 schrieb Ichthyostega:
> at our dev.meeting, we just had an discussion, with some interesting ideas
> regarding how to organise all the content for the (future) website.

Sorry that I couldn't make it, but I'm on vacation right now (return of the 
modem - yay!)

> We 
> really should try to get this discussion going. uWiki makes progress, but,
> anyway we have lots of content lying somewhere in the jungle of websites,
> asciidoced content, tiddlyWikis, GIT trees. But a clever structure is
> really something we should discuss and settle down upon soon....

As I said, I'm on vacation right now but I have already set aside enough time 
to get going with the Lumiera documentation effort once I'm back.

> +--------------------------------+
> Shortened IRC transcript.....
>
> <raffa> ichthyo: I don't think so. It was really about content structure.
> <raffa> Made around the asciidoc day.
> <raffa> By someone very active then.

Well, I tossed around ideas how to restructure the content then, but wouldn't 
dare to call this "very active". So - no, couldn't possibly have been me ;)

I will put some thinking into all this when I'm done with vacationing. Expect 
more around 2009-11-23.
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Wouter Verwijlen | 14 Nov 01:32
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Re: Website / Documentation structure

Yes, here's my adjusted proposal for the website structure:

 GENERAL/PUBLIC-SECTION
    - News
    - What is Lumiera and why the world needs Lumiera
    - How You Can Help (programming or any other jobs/tasks, donating)
    - Contact
    (to be added in the future: Screenshots, Download, Shop)

 DEVELOPER-SECTION
    - Where to start (=homepage of dev section; includes Links (git, doxygen....))
    - Development Documentation - everything discussed and proposed before
    &n bsp;   - workgroup oriented structure like: Core, Proc, GUI, Workflow, Website&Wiki, PR, ...
    - Status / reports
    - Concepts and whitepapers
    - Technical docs, specs
    - Roadmap

One of the most important parts for now is, as discussed, the development documentation. This I think could be structured via the different workgroups that were (or were they not?) created. The first three of these aren't actually workgroups (yet), but are the main sectors in which development takes place right now, i.e. backend, proc-layer and gui. Add to that the workflow-workgroup and (yet to be created?) website&wiki workgroup and possibly a PR workgroup (please correct me here), and we ll have our main categories. For the workflow workgroup I proposed a TOC a while back (in february), which could still be used.

So far my thoughts on this matter. Feel free to discuss.

Kind regards,
wouter - daylife

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Hello all,

at our dev.meeting, we just had an discussion, with some interesting ideas
regarding how to organise all the content for the (future) website. We really
should try to get this discussion going. uWiki makes pr ogress, but, anyway
we have lots of content lying somewhere in the jungle of websites, asciidoced
content, tiddlyWikis, GIT trees. But a clever structure is really something
we should discuss and settle down upon soon....

Cheers,
Hermann V.

+--------------------------------+
Shortened IRC transcript.....

<raffa> ichthyo: I don't think so. It was really about content structure.
<raffa> Made around the asciidoc day.
<raffa> By someone very active then.
...
<ichthyo> wasn't this outline written by you

<ichthyo> "possible workflow tasks?"
<ichthyo> http://lists.lumiera.org/pipermail/lumiera/2009-February/000733.html
....
<daylife> and the website needs to get some clean split between the public
front-end of the website and the documentation-tree wh ere everything can be
found...because at the moment the thing's a mess. i can't really find anything...
....
<andrewjames> the t.o.c. is useful sometime to reinitate a conversation of the
site structure
<andrewjames> it is more what a user would expect as an introduction to lumiera

<daylife> anyway, here's my idea as for the entire website structure:
<daylife>  PR FRONT-END
<daylife>     - News
<daylife>     - What _is_ Lumiera and why the world _needs_ Lumiera
<daylife>     - How You Can Help (programming, donating)
<daylife>     - Contact
<daylife>  DEVELOPER-SECTION
<daylife>     - Documentation
...
<ichthyo> for the developer-section, maybe...
<ichthyo>  - status / reports
<ichthyo>  - links (git, doxygen....)
<ichthyo& gt;  - concepts and whitepapers
<ichthyo>  - technical docs, specs

<daylife> *c&p'd it ichthyo
[2009-11-11 23:40:59] |<-- daylife has left kornbluth.freenode.net ("Ik ga weg")

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Christian Thaeter | 20 Nov 02:29

YaCy Search on our Server

I always wanted to try out YaCy, last Monday on OpenExpo here I met the
developers and we took some time and set it up on our server.

Take a look at:
 http://git.pipapo.org:8080/

Now you can do all your searchs you never wanted g00gle to know about.

Well, seriosuly this is just an experiment, running under its own
vserver. Soon we may create few custom search engines (a open-video one
for sure) and hook them up with the other vservers (lumiera, cinelerra)
 as frontend.

	Christian
Richard Nespithal | 20 Nov 09:48

Compile lumiera

Hi everybody,

I tried to compile lumiera today; all dependencies are installed but
the main lumiera package failed:

/usr/include/gavl/gavltime.h:275: error: 'uint64_t' does not name a type

Does anybody know how to fix this?
Burkhard Plaum | 20 Nov 11:05
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Re: Compile lumiera

Hi,

Richard Nespithal wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> I tried to compile lumiera today; all dependencies are installed but
> the main lumiera package failed:
> 
> /usr/include/gavl/gavltime.h:275: error: 'uint64_t' does not name a type
> 

> Does anybody know how to fix this?

Before including <gavl/gavltime.h> one must include <inttypes.h>

I just added

#include <inttypes.h>

to gavltime.h. But since lumiera depends on a hopelessly old gavl version,
this must be worked around within lumiera.

Burkhard
Christian Thaeter | 20 Nov 13:44

Re: Compile lumiera

Burkhard Plaum wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Richard Nespithal wrote:
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> I tried to compile lumiera today; all dependencies are installed but
>> the main lumiera package failed:
>>
>> /usr/include/gavl/gavltime.h:275: error: 'uint64_t' does not name a type
>>
> 
>> Does anybody know how to fix this?
> 
> Before including <gavl/gavltime.h> one must include <inttypes.h>
> 
> I just added
> 
> #include <inttypes.h>
> 
> to gavltime.h. But since lumiera depends on a hopelessly old gavl version,
> this must be worked around within lumiera.

Well, not depends but we just set the minimal required version as low as
possible to be able to build on debian lenny. It should work on a higher
/actual gavl version too of course!

Strangely I never seen this problem. Richard, what distro and what gavl
version are you on? This should be fixed. Feel free to post a ticket on
http://issues.lumiera.org/ or just send a mail then I open a ticket.

	Christian

Gmane