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Joel Holdsworth | 4 Apr 12:42
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Merging my GDL dock-work branch

Hi All,

For the past few weeks I've been working quite heavily on Lumiera and
the GDL docks. After sending lots of patches upstream, I believe we're
now ready to merge my work to master. In order to use the latest GUI
code, you'll need to either grab the GDL SVN head, or Lumiera's GDL git
repo at git://git.lumiera.org/gdl

Once you have the GDL source, in a directory somewhere you'll need to do
the following:

git clone git://git.lumiera.org/gdl
cd gdl/trunk/
./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr/local
make
sudo make install
sudo ldconfig

In ubuntu and debian, libgdl is usually installed to /usr so with this
procedure you won't override the distro version if you have it
installed. However, once ldconfig is called, the version in /usr/local
will take precedence system wide, so if you have problems running
Anjuta, you will need to uninstall it.

This way of us working on GDL-head seems ok. If anyone has a more
elegant way to make them coexist; a solution to the system-wide
precedance problem, I'm open to suggestions.

Presumably this information will eventually need to go into the n00b
instructions, and also the build drone will need some love. Note that
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Daniel Frechoso | 6 Apr 22:06

mailing list test [ do not need to read ]

Test.
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Christian Thaeter | 6 Apr 23:41

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Daniel Frechoso wrote:
> Test.

Yes the list works, but we are bit slow and silent currently. No posts
past days.. stay tuned.

Meanwhile, is there anyone out there who wants to help with uWiki coding?

	Christian
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lu arembepe | 7 Apr 01:44
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Re: mailing list test

test....video..video...video...

2009/4/6 Christian Thaeter <ct <at> pipapo.org>
Daniel Frechoso wrote:
> Test.

Yes the list works, but we are bit slow and silent currently. No posts
past days.. stay tuned.

Meanwhile, is there anyone out there who wants to help with uWiki coding?

       Christian


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Jesus Odreman | 7 Apr 02:07
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Hello, greetings and thank you very much for accepting looking forward to the development of Lumiera.

I'm editor of Professional Film and Video, and although I have no formal training as a programmer, I wish to offer my services as immensely to collaborate on what you can. imagine something that can contribute in the test phase of the operation of the Software, from my perspective as editor.


I have a machine that I am running Ubuntu in Wmware, if necessary could install this system as the primary on that machine. I currently use it for post-Video (as OSX86 Hack), and she has:

Two-processor Intel Core 2 Duo
4 GB Ram, DDR2
Gigabyte Video Card, 256 MB Ram
Main 250 GB Hard Drive, 7200 RPM, 8 MB Buffer
Hard Drive Assistant, 1 TB, 7200 RPM, 16 MB Buffer
Firewire Cards, PCI 1394.

If anything else happens, just escríbanme. Spanish is my native language, but I can defend with the English, if necessary.

Anything, we are in order here.

Jesus Odremán. Venezuela


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George Nassas | 7 Apr 02:57
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On 6-Apr-09, at 5:41 PM, Christian Thaeter wrote:

> Meanwhile, is there anyone out there who wants to help with uWiki  
> coding?

What sort of help do you need?

- George
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Christian Thaeter | 7 Apr 05:16

Re: uWiki

George Nassas wrote:
> On 6-Apr-09, at 5:41 PM, Christian Thaeter wrote:
> 
>> Meanwhile, is there anyone out there who wants to help with uWiki coding?
> 
> 
> What sort of help do you need?
as usual there are various tasks at different levels ranging from
documentation, to review, refactoring (I am currently hacking things
together to be improved later) to design and implementation of
unfinished components.

There is an incomplete list (at the bottom)
  http://issues.lumiera.org/report/2
Improving that list would be also a task.

For the Documentation very basic/generic programming knowledge is
needed. The other things require beginner to average level Lua
Programming knowledge and quite some time to get used to the project and
its plans. If you don't know Lua yet, its a very small programming
language which a moderate skilled programmer could pick up in a few
days. I start to like it quite much. Some C, shell, apache-config, css,
asciidoc -wizard would be also welcome, we have enough work for anyone,
you just need to bring some time :)

When you or anyone else is interested in helping, clone the git (git
clone git://git.pipapo.org/uwiki/cehteh uwiki) take a look and then ask
further about what you want to do (you know your capabilities best) and
coordination thereof. Either by mail or even better on IRC
(irc.freenode.net #lumiera, european afternoon/evening is a good time there)

	Thanks,
		Christian
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Ichthyostega | 7 Apr 13:59
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Next Developer Meeting?


Hi all,

didn't we agree on the last meeting that the next (April) meeting will be at
Wednesday April 7, 2009 at 20:00 UTC ? This would be the second wednesday and
-- oops -- it would be tomorrow!

Well, everyone seems to be quite busy with various stuff, but development on
Lumiera will continue for sure. Maybe we'll do just a short meeting; for example
we could discuss the question how to handle specific library dependencies.
I think GDL is just the first instance of this problem and more specific
dependencies will arise if we get more down into media processing.

Indeed, most media applications are plagued by such very specific dependencies
on singular versions or even custom versions of commonly available libraries,
which then causes a lot of tension with the common distribution mechanisms.

A common option is to ship the specific libraries as a bundle, but this doesn't
prevent the packagers of the distributions to drop the bundle and try to get
it to sort-of work with the version in the distribution. Of course, this just
sort-of works and leaves the innocent users with lots of mysterious bugs...
The current desaster with libjack in debian is just one of many examples.

Cheers
Hermann
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Christian Thaeter | 7 Apr 14:52

Re: Next Developer Meeting?

Ichthyostega wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> didn't we agree on the last meeting that the next (April) meeting will be at
> Wednesday April 7, 2009 at 20:00 UTC ? This would be the second wednesday and
> -- oops -- it would be tomorrow!
Oops .. i thought next week (didnt looked), but I am there tomorrow. I
think the purpose of reguular meetings is that they happen regulary,
even if we made no much progress and cant plan much, at least some short
acknowledgements are always neccessary. Anyways, there is progress
behind the scenes even if it doesnt look like it. Joel send some
announcements about his GDL work, where he did quite a lot. And i
learned Lua and working on uWiki which now gets some pace after i feel
more comfortable with it. Some others (raevol, alcarinque) also jumped
in and helped.

> 
> Well, everyone seems to be quite busy with various stuff, but development on
> Lumiera will continue for sure. Maybe we'll do just a short meeting; for example
> we could discuss the question how to handle specific library dependencies.
> I think GDL is just the first instance of this problem and more specific
> dependencies will arise if we get more down into media processing.
> 
> Indeed, most media applications are plagued by such very specific dependencies
> on singular versions or even custom versions of commonly available libraries,
> which then causes a lot of tension with the common distribution mechanisms.
> 
> A common option is to ship the specific libraries as a bundle, but this doesn't
> prevent the packagers of the distributions to drop the bundle and try to get
> it to sort-of work with the version in the distribution. Of course, this just
> sort-of works and leaves the innocent users with lots of mysterious bugs...
> The current desaster with libjack in debian is just one of many examples.

I would be more happy if 'our' gdl is installed as
/usr/local/lib/lumiera/libgdl.so or /usr/local/lib/liblumieragdl.so for
the time coming. We talked about that on IRC and Joel agreed, but its
just that it needs to be some work and figuring out to put that into the
build systems in a proper way. to be done by someone[tm]

	Christian

> 
> Cheers
> Hermann
> 
> 
> 
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hendrik | 8 Apr 12:58

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On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 01:59:44PM +0200, Ichthyostega wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> didn't we agree on the last meeting that the next (April) meeting will be at
> Wednesday April 7, 2009 at 20:00 UTC ? This would be the second wednesday and
> - -- oops -- it would be tomorrow!

April 7 is a Tuesday, not even a second Tuesday.  The second Wednesday 
is April 8.

> Well, everyone seems to be quite busy with various stuff, but development on
> Lumiera will continue for sure. Maybe we'll do just a short meeting; for example
> we could discuss the question how to handle specific library dependencies.
> I think GDL is just the first instance of this problem and more specific
> dependencies will arise if we get more down into media processing.
> 
> Indeed, most media applications are plagued by such very specific dependencies
> on singular versions or even custom versions of commonly available libraries,
> which then causes a lot of tension with the common distribution mechanisms.
> 
> A common option is to ship the specific libraries as a bundle, but this doesn't
> prevent the packagers of the distributions to drop the bundle and try to get
> it to sort-of work with the version in the distribution. Of course, this just
> sort-of works and leaves the innocent users with lots of mysterious bugs...
> The current desaster with libjack in debian is just one of many examples.
> 
> Cheers
> Hermann
> 
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